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Brockley housing market: in pursuit of imperfection

Brockley is a doer-upper hotspot, according to The Sunday Telegraph. It claims:

"Fully renovated properties are not selling, as buyers seek out unmodernised homes to 'do up' as a way of adding value in a slow market. It's harder to sell properties which have been extended or have loft conversions as young buyers want to add this value themselves... areas of London with a good supply of renovation projects are Brockley, Telegraph Hill, Tooting and West Norwood."

Which is one way of putting it.


DVD crackdown reaches Brockley

Lewisham Council is currently waging war on the snakemasters and you can play your part. Council officers are currently urging local businesses such as pubs, cafes and barbershops to refuse to allow pirate DVD sellers and posters have begun to appear in Brockley. The sellers are generally linked to organised crime gangs, operating in London.

The view from The Hill

We recently asked users of The Telegraph Hill website the following question:
"As a resident of Brockley Cross, I consider Telegraph Hill as much a part of my neighbourhood as Hilly Fields and try to cover news about the Hill whenever possible. However, the survey shows that very few of the people who visit the site hail from Telegraph Hill. So my question is... is that because TH is already so well served by this site or is it because people in TH don't consider TH to be part of the Brockley area?"

It prompted a few interesting responses, with the prevailing view that Telegraph Hill is very much New Cross and Brockley is simply a neighbour.

Parking in Lewisham

The Big Retort is unhappy about selfish parking and even less happy with Lewisham Council's response...

13 comments:

Tamsin said...

Not "simply" a neighbour. A twin, of which we are slightly envious in the light of your bigger park and your shops and restaurants. Not so much we can offer in return except for the views from our Upper Park and the heron in the Lower Park.

Brockley Nick said...

And a fantastic playcentre for kids, a farmers market, tennis courts and, seemingly, a second-hand sale in someone's front garden every weekend...

Tamsin said...

Yes, please, please use the Farmer's Market which is teetering a bit viability-wise (some regular stalls not turning up). Same people as in Hilly Fields the week before, so if you miss them there (or just have to have another piece of goats milk cheese or 300g of olive/garlic mix) come along to the Telegraph Hill Lower Park on the third Saturday of the month.

Monkeyboy said...

.....or is Brockley an embarasing counsin who's stopped being invited to weddings because of what happened last time?

Anonymous said...

I grew up in Telegraph Hill, and have settled in Brockley. I definitely feel they are different (perhaps just so I don't feel like a saddo who's moved back to where they grew up...) I love the way there is a hill between us, so you feel you have gone somewhere different. It's also the prefect distance between me and my parents - nicely close, but different communitites.

Anonymous said...

The Telegraph article confirms Brockley and Telegraph Hill are seperate areas.

Brockley Nick said...

Well that's settled it then! ;)

Anonymous said...

Here's a question for you then - on the assumption that it's impossible to have an area that is defined as 'nowhere' where do Telegraph hill and Brockley meet?Where is line drawn in the proverbial?

Tyrwhitt Michael said...

We are back on the topic of "where do you draw the line" which I think was discussed earlier in the year?

I always considered Brockley to be SE4 and New Cross SE14.

As far as I am aware Telegraph Hill is mainly in the latter....

andy pandy pudding & pie said...

they both meet in what Nick calls 'west brockley' which is where i live :o)

Transpontine said...

Most of the 'Telegraph Hill' conservation area is SE14, which is New Cross. I am of the view that Telegraph Hill is simply a sub-area of New Cross, and that attempts to define it as an area in its own right are historically false and favoured by estate agents for obvious reasons. For instance there is a book called 'On Sundays we wore white' which describes growing up in Waller Road in the Edwardian era. Throughout the book the author refers to living in New Cross and never to living in Telegraph Hill. However the hill as a geographical feature, rather than socio-geographical construct, clearly stretches down to Brockley Cross with the downward slope of Drakefell Road crossing the border at some point - or maybe Brockley Cross is the dividing line between New X and Brockley. Either way if you're close to this zone, as i am, you probably spend at least as much time in Brockley as in New Cross, especially if you have a coffee addiction. Its all sarf east london isn't it?

andy pandy pudding & pie said...

I live in SE4 and have a 0207 telephone number, but live in the councillor area of telegraph hill.

Brockley is se4 and 0208 numbers i think (please correct me if i'm wrong).

So i still dont know where to call home :o(

I think telegraph hill used to be part of the village of hatchem or something very similar orginally before even new cross existed (i.e. its new).

Anonymous said...

Not related but, I walked past the new development on mantle road this morning on my way to the train station, and the lights were on in some of the flats. I have to admit that even this small contribution of 'life on mantle road' did improve the feel of the place quite considerably. When the shops below are full and other developments have been completed I think that the area that side of the tracks will be transformed.

Any more news on whose taking on those shops?
Mike C.

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