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Phew, the vote's over and we can go back to talking about things like pubs and what famous people live in Brockley...

Although the Brockley Central troll was a late entry for this year's Brockzilla, we have found some of the debate genuinely enlightening and we are pleased to say we have had our opinion changed on one or two of the ideas (and reinforced in one other).

Thanks to everyone who cast their vote and spoke their mind, we will be summarising the results and sending them to the Councillors who, and we must stress this will take them on board, but not base their final decisions solelely on them.

Today, has been so busy from a personal and Brockley Central point of view, that we haven't had time to update you on the news about The Talbot, but we'll hopefully get round to that very shortly...

We'd like to end with a quick word on this blog.

1. This blog is not aligned to any organisation or political party - it is run by two blokes, for fun and to improve the quality of local information and debate. It is not, nor has it ever been, "official". If it was, it would probably look something like this and no-one would use it (although we stress, that's not official either!).

2. Although this blog does occasionally take an editorial stance on issues, we always try to respect those with whom we disagree. They also reflect our personal opinions, rather than any vested interests, and as you may have noticed, Nick and Jon don't agree on everything anyway. As someone has already said, we should all recognise that we essentially want the same thing: Brockley to be a better place.

3. We always try to get our facts right. In the last 9 months that this site has been running, we struggle to recall a single complaint that someone has made about the factual accuracy of our articles, even if they regularly complain about the opinions expressed!

26 comments:

Anonymous said...

This site is always informative and more often than not, it's a laugh too. i would hate to see it change.

max said...

"We always try to get our facts right. In the last 9 months that this site has been running, we struggle to recall a single complaint that someone has made about the factual accuracy of our articles, even if they regularly complain about the opinions expressed!"

Maybe you suffer from acute selected memory syndrome but I do recall one case where you got your facts wrong and another when you had a strong opinion before getting the facts at all.

Brockley Nick said...

Ahh max, the last few days have made me nostalgic for our combative exchanges. Welcome back, old friend.

Richard Elliot said...

I've said it before and I'm happy to say it again. This blog is a fantastic local resource.

I hope you keep it going for a long time to come, and see you at the Christmas Fair!

Anonymous said...

I've always found the blog useful and reliable for local info- I feel much more in touch with the local community now - thanks

Pete said...

I like this blog too. Why should commentary on the local community only take place on official websites. This isn't a communist or fascist state.

Keep up the good work Nick.

When people disagree they should just try to remain civil.

leenewham said...

It's a great blog and a local asset.

Anonymous said...

stick your head above the parapet and watch some twat with no balls to give an opinion knock it off - go for it and don't dilute what is a great site

Kate said...

Yay for Nick & Jon, they do a great job. I'd challenge anyone else who thinks they could do better to, erm, have a go!

Monkeyboy said...

Nelson Mandela, the Dali Lamma, Nic & Jon. Champions of free speach all.

We ought to plant a tree in honour of them.

andy pandy pudding & pie said...

Good idea Monkeyboy, maybe my cats will learn to wee on that instead :o)

Brockley Sarah said...

Uh oh, best not discuss trees!;0)

I know I'm biased but they are my fave Brockley boys!

max said...

I didn't get anonymous comment on balls and parapets, can somebody explain it to me please?

Anonymous said...

Completely agree - the guys do a greta job and BC is a super local resource.

Also agree with Pete that it is essential that such unofficial blogs exist. Otherwise we'd have quotas for pub refurb stories, tree stories, deli openings and Christmas fair stories would probably be banned.

Keep up the excellent work guys.

Anonymous said...

Hi there - I'm a bit of an interloper since I live in SE1, but would like to draw your attention to the way the SE1 forum (www.london-se1.co.uk) is structured for ideas. We all put up any topic we would like to see in 4 handy sections. The moderator is quite good though and combines threads when required, stops spammers and tells us off if we don't behave.

As a result of the forum, we do meet up socially as well which is a very nice added advantage.

creepylesbo said...

It's a shame the after school club didn't get more votes. The Telegraph Hill one had to shut due to a lack of funding because the council couldn't afford the staff to run it and I remember the Telegraph Hill Centre group saying that petty crime in the area significantly went down on the nights when the local youth had somewhere to go.

Anonymous said...

Nick/Jon,

Your blog is now drawing in people from outwith se4. blimey.

Time to start taking advertising and planning the float? ;-)

Tamsin said...

Max, sticking your head above the parapet is a reference back to trench warfare in WW1. Trenches were dug as, literally, trenches but had a low wall built up as a parapet along the edge facing no-man's land - with gaps in it to fire through. If you stuck your head above the parapet the likelihood was that a sniper would shoot you, and a head wound would probably be fatal.

Venturing a strong opinion on a public forum is also risky - although I suppose the adage "sticks and stones can break my bones but words will never harm me" could be said to apply.

Tamsin said...

An after-school club is a slightly different animal to a youth club and that is what the Telegraph Hill Centre had, but lost. The problem was that the workers the Council employed even when they had the money were too unreliable and uninspiring for years before yet another re-organisation of the Youth Service pulled the plug - rather to the relief of all.

The THS tried for a lottery bit to get the infra-structure in place to approach the Council for a Service Level Agreement, which is the way things are going now and would at least give the local body some control of what is going on and the quality of what is offered, but we were unsuccessful so everything is still on hold.

max said...

Hi Tamsin, thanks for the explanation of the origin of the expression "sticking the head above the parapet", I had got the meaning but didn't know it came from the trenches.
I still don't get the "twat with no balls", no actually, I get it but don't feel like commenting.
That would be sticking the head above the parapet I guess, only that it doesn't look like it would be any worth.

Tamsin said...

You also, of course, didn't dare show any gleam in the darkness. H.H. Munro (Saki's) last words as one of his men lit up a fag - "Put out that bloody light!"...

There's a temptation to transfer that analogy to forum discussins too. Anything faintly illuminating gets shot at... But not this one - Nick and Jon are doing a great job. I had a look at SE1 and prefer the set up of this and thehill.org - the other has too much coming at you all at once.

Monkeyboy said...

oooohhh....!!! this is getting all Radio 4.

I prefer the more HELLO! type threads myself.

I saw Timothy Spall on the train, lives in Forrest Hill apparently.

andy pandy pudding & pie said...

Who's Timothy Spall? Can't be too important otherwise he would live near me

Monkeyboy said...

Don't know who famous moon faced actor Timpthy Spall is? Shame on you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Spall

Ed said...

Spall said on Top Gear that he was from Battersea (and many still think he is a Brummie from his role in Auf Wiedersehen Pet). I'd like to add my name to the list of people who enjoy BC and find it a useful and informative local resource.

Thanks, Ed

Tamsin said...

(To go all Radio 4 again...)
Did anyone else see Timothy Spall in "Shooting the Past" a couple of weeks ago? I thought it was great. And he also once had a cameo role in "Red Dwarf" which I am in the process of re-discovering.

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