Oh no, not again! New Bookie bid for Brockley

We've got lots more uplifting stuff to write about in the coming days, but we may as well get this out of the way first...

Brockley's the subject of another license application for a betting shop - this time Ladbrokes on Lewisham Way:

Please be advised that the following premise has applied for a NEW Premises licence under the Gambling Act 2005.


Ladbrokes

165-169 Lewisham Way

London SE14 6QP

Applied for a new Premises Licence for the following purposes – Betting Office


Representations should relate to one of the following licensing objectives

1. To prevent gambling from being a source of Crime & Disorder

2. To ensure that gambling is conducted in a fair and open way

3. To protect children & other vulnerable persons from being harmed or exploited by gambling

Please could you ensure that any representations reach us by 9th April 2008. Should you require further information please contact by reply.

Brockley Central is not opposed to betting shops in principle, it is all about balance and context in our view. Like Brockley Road, Lewisham Way seems to have plenty of bookies and is just beginning to show some green shoots of regeneration - Meze Mangal's planned expansion and Tesco Metro being the most obvious examples.

What does everyone think about this one?

24 comments:

Fed up said...

It's like the area is under siege. Thanks for the legislation New Labour!

Anonymous said...

Not too bothered, but on a wider scale I am getting depressed with every london street being full of betting and kebab/chicken shops - when was the last time you saw a good chippy?

Richard Elliot said...

There already is a Ladbrokes isn't there? Are they looking for bigger premises? Do they want to open two?

Or have I got it completely wrong?

Tressillian James said...

where abouts on Lewisham way is this one? And are there not some schools nearby - on the roads leading down towards Deptford - or even Myatt Gardens.

I agree it's like the area is under seige - you wouldn't think there would be that much custom...

jon s said...

I've got nothing against chains moving in aftern independents colonise the area, but does it have to be bookies???????

JPM said...

That premises is the one on the corner of Lewisham Way and Tanners Hill, isn't it? That was (is?) a bookies, but now looks empty.
This looks as if Labrokes wants to move a few blocks west, and into a bigger property.

Anonymous said...

Lewisham Way was lost to the dark side a long time ago. If this goes through then perhaps it will discourage another bookies to open up near the nicer parts of the area? Probably the wrong attitude, not sure whether it should be opposed or not- we all want regeneration but this feels like a backward step.

Headhunter said...

Is this the big old department store building (originally Penns or Pynes dept store)? That's already a Coral bookies anyway isn't it? Are Ladbrokes opening directly next door or something?

TM said...

I think this is or was until recently already a bookies probably a Coombes or another of the smaller chains.

If it has closed and Ladbrokes want to reopen it then they will probably shut their small branch near the new Tesco Express.

Net result one less bookie and everyone is happy....

Trixie said...

So, they're planning to put another bookies in where there always has been a bookies?
Not really a need for a knee jerk reaction inflamatory post then was there?

Brockley Nick said...

What knee jerk inflammatory post was that then?

I thought I said it was all about balance and context and asked for people's views?

Trixie said...

errm the title of the post: Oh no, not again! New Bookie bid for Brockley.
I opened the post thinking that somone had applied for a new bookies licence and seeing if it was worth evryone getting their knickers in a twist as with homeview only to read that basically one existing bookies may be replaced with another one... not exactly an "Oh no" moment!

Bea said...

Trixie - looks like you're the one getting your "knickers in a twist " - calm down luv!

Brockley Nick said...

Apologies if you had to go to the trouble of reading the article!

The title was more a reference to the fact that I am sick of having to write about bookmakers, plus a jokey little reference to the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy - I do these things to keep myself amused.

Trixie said...

Bea, seriously treacle, don't call me luv...
Nick, yes I think that's what's done my head in too, too many posts about bookies and the anticipated boredom of a mass whingefest as per Homeview when in my balanced opinion I couldn't give a toss if there's one more or one less bookies in Brockley.

Bea said...

So Trixie - honey pie - why are you even reading this post if all you anticipate is the “ boredom of a mass whingefest”?!

Trixie said...

Bea, probably for the same reason that you felt the urge to comment on my reaction.... weird forum compulsion. Else it's just you like to attempt to patronise people for no reason

Trixie said...

Bea, probably for the same reason that you felt the urge to comment on my reaction.... weird forum compulsion. Else it's just you like to attempt to patronise people for no reason

andy pandy pudding & pie said...

Is this a cat fight or what!

More milk anyone???

Bea said...

APP&P: meow !!!

Yes, it's either a "weird forum compulsion" or the desire to troll from behind the safety of a computer screen ... because describing people who care about the future of the ex-Homeview site as “boring” is obviously not condescending!

Anonymous said...

One bookie to replace another? I doubt it. This is not a case of an upgrade to existing bookies, but a landgrab following a relaxation of the planning rules and a liberalization of the regulations controlling betting machines. There is a race on at the moment to get as many applications for new bookies as possible. Each bookie will have 4 souped up one-arm bandits which reputedly earn £500 a week. So do the math. If it is any consolation this is happening all over the place. Some high streets have several bookies in a row.

This is a subject well worth whinging about it will ruin many of our shopping areas forcing out businesses that are actually useful.

a general thought said...

Betting shops really depress me - it's often poorer people in them as they're (understadnably) prepared to risk more to win eg 100pounds.

it's a horrible regressive tax on vulnerable people.

Headhunter said...

Yeah I walked past that old department store building over the weekend and the Coral or whatever was in there before has well and truly gone, so it certainly looks like Ladbrokes are moving into the empty slot.

Anonymous said...

It seems that the pattern of urban life has changed. For all our groceries and household goods we go to mega supermarkets. Or have little vans deliver to our door.

Our parades have become denuded of the variety of shops that provided these things. They are now home to our base addictions:

Cheap pubs and off licenses for alcohol.

Tobacconists and sweet sellers for Nicotine and Sugar.

Betting shops and Estate agents for for the gamblers who want to place small and large bets.

Fast food calories at a selection of unhealthy franchises.

Seems to me we are missing a couple of things from this pattern. A brothel and drug dependency clinic.

Which reminds me...after all this news of urban degeneration...my repeat prescription of prozac needs signing. Maybe if they drugged the whole population, Lewisham would appear to be as it is described in the council literature.

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