172

You'll probably know 172 best as a repdigit in base 6, but 172 is also a bus, and a very handy way of getting home from New Cross if the trains to Brockley are in trouble.

Combined with the the 171, it offers a pretty reliable service in our experience.

But local resident Paul Bell is less impressed and has launched a "Better 172 Now" campaign, highlighting problems ranging from an ageing fleet to surly drivers.

He says:

“After a long day working and a commute home of over an hour, the last thing you want is to be thrown off the bus half way between your destination, because the doors won’t work or the someone in an office decides the bus is running late and will look bad on their reported punctuality figures. They can get away with this poor service because we the customer says nothing.”

Visit his site now to find out more.

22 comments:

Anonymous said...

don't catch buses, don't go into pubs, don't take minicabs...

am I alive?

Headhunter said...

If I ever can't cycle or run to work I use the 172. I used it daily in Feb/March time and didn't have many problems.

However I remember once trying to get a 172 on a Sunday into Waterloo and literally waiting for 30 or more minutes before giving up.... I was determined that I would get 1 and let 171s go by and thought that as soon as I get up and walk off or go to the train station instead I'd probably see on go blasting by... I don't bother with the 172 on Sundays now

fabhat said...

The 172 used to have a blind spot about the bus stop (stop, not request) just beyond the old vic, on waterloo rd. I used to get it on a sat afternoon, and on at least two occasions had to stand in the middle of the road, in the path of the bus to make it stop...No apology or pretence of planning to stop, just annoyance that I had forced them to g under 30 miles an hour for a a minute. But it is a million times better than the 171.

MB said...

I've found it OK to be honest but only as a fall back to the train. The noisey kids can be a pain but I was the same at that age so whateva!

Anyone got the bendy bus to Regent/Oxford street. If you're in no hurry it's quiet a nice journey, I'm a bus fan. Red Ken did lead the resurgence of them, they are almost useable now whereas they were REALLY rubbish a few years back.

Me said...

I caught it from Fleet Street on Wednesday evening and seemed like I had to wait an age for it.

Otherwise all seemed well.

Tressilliana said...

HH, don't understand why you would let the 171 go past when it also goes to Waterloo. From my limited experience with both buses, I haven't found that there is any significant time gain from getting the 172 rather than the 171. Long-distance bus journeys dull, especially as I can't read much on the bus because of travel sickness, but otherwise not a bad option.

fabhat said...

tressilliana - 171 goes through peckham and the walworth road, which on a bad day can make it woefully slow...at least that's my reason for avoiding the 171, but HH may have a different reason...

Headhunter said...

Nope no other reason that the 171 can be woefully slow as you say. the 172, when it comes is, relatively quick

Anonymous said...

My reason for avoiding the 171 at all costs is to avoid travelling through Peckham. Not only do I find it a depressing area to go through, but after half an hour of sitting on the bus, it's effectively travelled about 2 miles, and I feel that I might as well have walked.

patrick1971 said...

With these campaigns, yes, we all get annoyed when a bus breaks down or short routes, and ideally it would never happen. But we're in the real world; a bus that's not short-routed means that people waiting in the other direction won't have to wait as long. Most of us drive cars, which are probably responsible for all the bus hold-ups. And none of us are going to get sued when someone falls out of broken doors; the bus company is.

I don't really like the subtext of these sort of campaigns, which seems to be that the bus companies are out to get us and take delight in short-routing. They're on targets for TfL, and they're also required to provide a given service level. Generally, in my experience, they do a pretty good job.

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Anonymous said...

I find south London buses way too grim and I avoid them if I can,I rather walk home from new cross.

Brockley Jon said...

The 172 is my transport of choice to La Querce or Babur. It's quite regular and apart from the obligatory teenagers on the top deck playing 'music' on their mobiles, it's fine I reckon.

@anon, I like the way you say 'south London buses', like the north London ones are so much better!

Re. Peckham, I was once in a black cab coming from west London going home to Brockers. Peckham was gridlocked and it took us about 45 mins just to get through it. The meter ran up to £75! The company were paying, before you ask.

Tamsin said...

Long distance bus journeys are the best (and cheapest) way of getting around if you've got the time - a front seat on the top deck is a whole new perspective on London. I used to get the 36 to Paddington on a fairly regular basis when it was a Routemaster (even better) and still sometimes do the 321/261 journey to Bromley.

Tom said...

threadjack - I had to pick up stuff from work last night, and did the Brockley to City journey in 12 minutes. Thank god that's not possible during the day, otherwise I'd struggle to justify the bike riding!

One of the buses to Brockley stops right outside my work, but the one time I took it home, during peak traffic, it took more than an hour to get back home. I've run the journey in 45 minutes so I'm not doing that again!

Chin chin said...

12 minutes Brockley to the city, pull the other one!

Tom said...

as a cyclist, I know all the back routes. you can do it basically traffic-light free once over the thames

Tom said...

but anyway, whatever. I find it weird what people here try to have arguments about. Go outside and get some fresh air if you're stressed.

Chin chin said...

You'd do well to take your own advice, I was only having a laugh. What's the problem your lycra too tight?

The Brockley Telegraph said...

Lycra too tight? Only one can imagine!

I cycled to work yesterday but not Mon to Wed, or today. For me its something to do with the heat. I'm not a lazy person and actually quite enjoy cycling - gives me a buzz. But its the heat - this week i've been waking up feeling like I had a hangover. Funnily enough, wed. night was pretty cold hence i managed to cycle.

I cycle to work (More London Place) in about 20 mins door to door.

Amanda said...

Whilst the bus route is good, it has a fast/direct route into town.
The service itself is patchy. You have to be careful if you use Oyster prepay, as you can get thrown off at New Cross Gate, Elephant or Waterloo, when drivers are changed. And so, be forced to pay again.
( This is on buses where the end stop is advertised as St.Paul's.)

There's an inadequate or not fully disseminated procedure amongst the driving fleet, on what to do in these situations and problems can arise from this, if you object to paying in twice, in effect.

msis said...

I get the 172 daily and it does have some severe issues, namely curtaling (so annoying!) and not enough buses on the return leg of rush hour (it's great going in before 8).
However I continue to use it so it can't be that bad. It seems to have been behaving itself lately (possibly due to the number of complaints being put in by myself and others, including this campaigner gentleman).

I was on the 172 when it was curtailed at New Cross a few weeks ago (St Pauls to Brockley) and all of the passengers refused to get off the bus until the driver completed the journey. It was the best.

They are meant to provide a transfer ticket for the next service and only curtail the bus when there is another one directly behind. If they do not do this take down the bus number and put in a complaint (at the very least you'll get some free tickets).

The transfer ticket does need addressing IMO, as only one is provided for an entire bus. It is given to the first person who asks for it and often they'll dissapear with it or decide to get a different bus with it to everyone else.

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