Accelerated timetable for ELL 2

This is Local London reports today that the plans to extend the East London Line to Clapham Junction could happen quicker than the most optimistic projections:

Clapham Junction could be on the Tube in time for the London Olympics and save taxpayers £10million in the process - if officials can agree funding for the project by September.

Department of Transport (DfT) is expected to fund the majority of the £100million phase two of the East London Line extension - connecting Clapham Junction to Docklands on the London Overground network - and is in "ongoing" talks with Transport for London (TfL) and Boris Johnson, the Mayor of London.

The talks are aimed at allowing builders to "roll-on" to phase two when phase one is completed in 2009.

As well as being a welcome new transport option for Brockley, it suggests that the transport authorities are confident that there will be no delays to the completion of phase 1.

34 comments:

jon s said...

To be honest I expected this sort of thing with Mayor Boris. He is more interested in helping the private sector create infrastructure as a way to integrate London, particularly if when it is cheap and we are entering a downturn (sort of Tory Keynsianism).

It could be decisive in the gentrification of Brockers/Telegraph Hill creating Clapham spillover through Peckham (yes, Peckham) overtaking the Forest Hill East Dulwich spillover.

I'll be watching over the next few years to see what tram schemes get resurected....

patrick1971 said...

"He is more interested in helping the private sector create infrastructure as a way to integrate London"

What's the problem with this approach? Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of BoJo, but if it gets the extension built, surely it's a good thing?

It will be great for Crofton Park commuters, as we'll be able to change at Peckham Rye for Clapham Junction and then on to SW destinations without having to go into Zone 1.

Headhunter said...

Not to cast negativity on our glorious gentrification, but Brockers will still be quite removed from Clapham, to get the Tube there you'll have to change at Surrey Quays, so I'm not sure we can rely on overspill from Clappers

jon s said...

Wasn't a criticsm, merely an observation! Particulary since my grad training was on rail PFIs for a private company.

Just noting that Tories like low cost effective new infrastructure but don't maintain what we have. Labour comes in, pumps money into existing infrastructure to get it up to scratch and manage it badly.

Let's get a bit of both!!

Monkeyboy said...

...rumour has it from my spies in TfLs Major Projects division is that Boris does not like trams.....

jon s said...

.....as long as he doesn't resurect the monorail idea (mooted for about 10 minutes at the same time as the cross london tram, advantage of not blocking the streets) Clapham - Camden and Stratford - Shepherds Bush

Anonymous said...

What's all this Brockers, Clappers malarkey?

tyrwhitt michael said...

A sign you were brought up listening to Johnners and Aggers on Test Match special........probably.

Tressilliana said...

Easy, cheap, quick way to get to Clapham: train from Crofton Park (or Nunhead or Lewisham) to Denmark Hill (3 stops, 8 minutes), change there, one stop to Clapham High Street (5 mins). All overground, Zones 2 and 3 (Lewisham and ?Nunhead are Zone 2) only. You come out very close to Clapham North tube station.

Headhunter said...

Yeah Tressilliana, that is a good route. I usually go on the loop (Lon Br to Victoria) if I ever want to get to "Clappers" from "Brockers"

Tamsin said...

Yes, but that will be one of the casualties of the current improvements we are suffering from.

What possessed the planners to do major works on the DLR just when it is picking up the excess traffic from the closed ELL? I had booked a holiday flying out sensibly from the City of London Airport and the journey with suitcases was sheer hell (and probably worse for those we bashed on the way).

Anonymous said...

Headhunter you're "crackers"

Tressilliana said...

You must have nerves of steel, Tamsin! I flew in and out of London City Airport once and was petrified at the proximity to Canary Wharf, especially on the return journey in the dark. However, flying scares the bejasus out of me in any conditions. V. glad I wasn't on that Qantas flight this morning where a hole in the fabric just appeared in mid-flight (no one hurt, miracle).

Tressillian James said...

What! I'm about to take Quantas to Singapore........

Anonymous said...

Oooh are you on the A380 super jumbo?

Tressilliana said...

Take a parachute, James.

Do dah said...

I wish there was an accelerated timetable of ELL 1. I miss the East London Line from New Cross Gate more than I expected.

Tamsin said...

I just thought they were less likely to lose our luggage than Heathrow or Gatwick.

The Brockley Telegraph said...

I'm a big fan of City airport. I love the little KVM/KLM? 'Fukker 50' planes that fly around the EU. I used to use them alot when I was working up north - some scary journeys coming back into the City through - I remember one time the plane was tilting/turning so much in the rain/wind that some of the passengers were screaming etc 'as' we were landing..

I also hate the amercian bombider? jets - very low level fusalage, 2 + 1 seats across and only one engine. I was on route from Chicago to Frankfort, Kentucky and we went through an air pocket and we all banged our heads. Americans are also far too large - coudn't get comfy at all :o)

Thank god for British airways.

Headhunter said...

"Fukker"??! I think you mean Fokker, and the airline is VLM.

Tom said...
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Headhunter said...

Tom - done!

Anonymous said...

Brockley is MUCH nicer than Clapham; Clapham has just been "on the map" literally and metaphorically for longer.

More links to anywhere must be a good thing. Which reminds me: do we get to keep that quite useful loop thing from LB to Victoria or is it a casualty of the new set up?

mrhassell said...

Tram's have and still are to present day a wonderful part of life in Melbourne, Australia. Considering that the original London Underground System was developed by an Australian, would it not be fair to suggest that perhaps you should refer to your 'reference' source's before making any comment. Although Tram's are noisy and take up road space, where London has over crowded road's and street's originally designed for 'horse and cart' method's of transfer, the appropriate nature (in electing) an underground system, by majority was and still is the most effective method of transport implementation. Unless perhaps you are considering a form of "Fourier transform" or aware of how two-dimensional plane and three-dimensional space to infinite-dimensional spaces, work and how to implement a better solution, perhaps just let Mr Boris do his work and have some faith in supporting, he has the little man in mind, even if yourself are not or do not.

Engage brain before opening discussion. I lived in South London for close to a decade and never had any particular problem in transferring from Brixton, to Clapham or Forest / Tulse Hill.

Monkeyboy said...

Full stops not a popular form of punctuation in your school I take it? I almost passed out reading that lot.

mrhassell said...

One last thing, I recommend reading more about "Sequence Spaces" within the Hilbert Space sequence vector at Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilbert_space

There is a science behind this discussion, which appears over looked! I'm personally dependant on as many alternative mode's of transport possible, as I have a physical disability in one of my leg's and often found in my younger year's in London, that walking was such a pleasure and to leave early to avoid "mongs" of people and enjoy the tranquillity of my own space and time, much as I do still today.

Tressilliana said the most sensible plan I see within this post. Plan, plan and plan again!

The Cat Man said...

I just got confused....

mrhassell said...

That would be the point of a " , " (comment) in the first place?

monkeyboy - how primal!

Monkeyboy said...

Hey, I'm not really in a position to comment on punctuation to be honest. When it all gets too much for my poor grammar I draw a diagram.

mrhassell said...

Ok here is a diagram about what is going to happen over the next 7 years.

http://brockleycentral.blogspot.com/2008/08/blackfriars-youre-still-thinking-about.html

Still, it is a shame that more preference was not extended to, cyclists.

Anonymous said...

They get enough benefits - zero tax and a free bus lane to ride in.

Monkeyboy said...

Yes I know, I'm involved in the Thameslink thing. lets just say it'll be a bit complex - lots of diagrams and hair pulling before that baby gets delivered.

mrhassell said...

I'm certain that "ELL 2" or East London Line phase 2... Will work out well.

A well is also a hole in the ground, just slightly off topic. Underground, electricity, Free Energy, Nikola Tesla (J.P Morgan can's Tesla), nobody would appear to remember, this has all been done before!

mrhassell said...

I'm fascinated by the response to this post!

http://www.alwaystouchout.com/project/3

I also found another posting, directly relating to this equally as enjoyable.

http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/2008/04/east-london-line-phase-2.html

Well done "jon s" on getting to the heart of the matter, as Mell Brook's might say... "Politics',Politics',Politics'".

Still think the Atlantic Lines and then think South, Atlantic that is.

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