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Trent Walker

Those purveyors of harmless good fun at Portland Bookmakers have submitted their plans to bring their own brand of high-class razzle-dazzle to Brockley Road.

Having won their appeal, they will be opening soon and have filed two planning applications with Lewisham Council for a new shop front and signage. You can see the plans yourself by clicking here and checking out applications DC/08/69209/FT and DC/08/69211/FT .

Although the design looks like something straight out of the 80s and they will inevitably block all their windows with posters, so no-one can see in or out, we can't see anything wrong with the plans, but we do of course hope that, having been defeated in the courts, Lewisham's planning department enforces the strict conservation area guidelines to the letter.

Thanks for the tip-off to Barry, who is so money and he doesn't even know it.

31 comments:

do dah said...

Oh dear.

lb said...

Looking at the application they seem to be replacing the existing shopfront with one that looks, er, exactly like it. Why are they bothering to replace it at all? Is it defective in some way?

Do dah said...

There's increased door access for wheelchairs and double buggy pushchairs no doubt.

tyrwhitt michael said...

Correct me if I am wrong but I don't think their little corner is in the conservation area.

tyrwhitt michael said...

Whoops
Having looked at the Lewisham Council Web site I am wrong. It does appear to be in the conservation area. The flats accross the road are the bit that is excluded.

I am a big believer in supporting local businesses however so I shall make a point of putting my annual Grand National bet on in there.

Bea said...

Yes - it's in the conservation area but located inside a post war building so they may well get permission.

Anonymous said...

Let it go.

Anonymous said...

I would much prefer to support a smaller non-national store like this as opposed to Coral. Also it appears that the Portland signage will be nicer than the rank plastic signage of Coral.

Anonymous said...

On the subject of bookies Ladbrook's larger Lewisham Way store is now open, the problem is there old small one near Tescos is now shut and already looking derelict.

Oh Dear

Anonymous said...

On the subject of bookies Ladbrook's larger Lewisham Way store is now open, the problem is there old small one near Tescos is now shut and already looking derelict.

Oh Dear

Brockley Dave said...

Vegas Baby, Vegas!

Lady said...

Today I called into the cemetery because i thought it looked interesting - it was indeed interesting but i didn't get very far because it seemed a bit scary with no one around and lots of hidden nooks and crannies ripe for a mugging. Was I paranoid? Is it actually as safe as anywhere else around here? And I thought there was something about it on this site but I can't find it - wasn't there some work going on there recently?

A bit random maybe but I did notice the new bookies on the way home. But then I got to wondering about the church hall opposite...would make a lovely wine bar/art gallery.

Bea said...

Lady - I went into the cemetery on Saturday - my little boy wanted to check out all the angels (statues) in there. I agree it does feel very lonely at times but on the other hand its incredibly beautiful and you'd never know you were in central London it’s so peaceful.

There's a link on this blog to the Friends of the Brockley and Ladywell cemeteries with more information and there’s some fantastic photos of it on flickr.

spincat said...

I walk around there quite a bit on my own (walking, taking photos and also trying to find a particular grave) and I have felt nervous at times but I still do it; perhaps more firghtened of the dead than the living!
There are more people around than there used to be, thanks to the work of the Friends.

Though I like Bookmakers, think it is a shame this one is in teh spot it is in, given that there are otehr bettign shops around.

A said...

I don't understand the 'razzle dazzle' and '1980s' comment, Nick. Looking at the photos, it looks like a very sober shopfront, especially given how gaudy most bookies are. Have I been looking at the wrong photos on the planning site?

Tressilliana said...

We go blackberrying in the cemetery in summer. Given the large numbers of cats and foxes around (dogs are banned from the cemetery now, I believe) I would wash the fruit before eating it, but the flavour is marvellous, especially in a crumble combined with apples from our own tree. One of the highlights of late summer for us.

Re the church hall - I imagine the congregation from St Mary Magdalene would have something to say about losing their church hall for an art gallery! I know a few poeple who worship there and my impression is that is used a lot, both for church groups and private lettings.

It's called St Cyprian's because it originally belonged to a Protestant church (don't know the denomination) of that name on what is now the lower site of Prendergast School in Adelaide Avenue. I suppose it was snapped up by St M M when St Cyprian's closed.

Brockley Nick said...

@A - the "razzle-dazzle" was sarcasm.

The 1980s comment was due to the typeface and colour combination, which looks very old fashioned, but not in a classy-retro way. More like Threshers of old.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone notice the big old party on the roof terrace of the Tea Factory last night? Went past around 10:30pm and it was rocking out, sounded pretty cool, are the new occupiers going to be the right-on, groovy type Brockley needs more of?!!

Paul Bell said...

How do you get to look at the pictures of the shop front proposals? Thanks.

Brockley Nick said...

Anon - I saw that. I assumed it was a party for the developers, before they handed over the building to the occupants.

Anonymous said...

no doubt, if it was the developers, they were congratulating themselves on being able to hand over a windowless, powerless, unplumbed cellar as an art gallery...

Graeme said...

Dogs are banned from the cemetery? Must verify. This means I've got my running track/ersatz back garden back!

99% of the hounds and their owners were lovely, but the nutter with her Jack Russells effectively stopped me from running there.

Don't forget that St Cyprian's Hall is where Spike Milligan played his first gig. Apparently.

Tressilliana said...

Graeme, I'm going by the ding-dong correspondence in the Mercury over the last six weeks or so between someone who's cross at not being allowed to walk his/her dogs there any more and the Treasurer of the Friends of the Cemetery (or similar title) who is vigorously defending the dog ban. The tree surgeon from Breakspears Road with four golden retrievers used to run through the cemetery with his dogs. That's a sight I'll miss but I still occasionally see them on Hilly Fields.

Tressillian James said...

I think he is up to 5 dogs now. I'm a dog owner but totally support keeping them out of the cemetary - there are also current burials there.

My grandparents are buried in Brompton Cemetary, and it is upsetting to see people walking their dogs and letting them urinate against the grave stones and trot over the graves.

Brockley Kate said...

That guy with the 4 (or 5!) labs is cool. Lovely dogs.

lb said...

Given the amout of dog cr-p that collects on my running shoes after just one circuit round Hilly Fields (or even walking up Tyrwhitt Road if I'm not paying attention) I entirely sympathise with any efforts to ban them. Can't they provide a wipe-clean park somewhere for these people and their filthy mutts?

Monkeyboy said...

I can see a dog/cat debate starting. I'm for cats.

Brockley Nick said...

Lb et al, I created a thread for the dogs v the dead debate above, please can you carry on this discussion there?

The Brockley Telegraph said...

Dogs are banned from the cemetary? Excellant news! Just found a decent place to walk my cats!

No more arrogant 'I'm above the law - my dogs not going to go on a lead on hilyfields' dog owners for me!

They can keep their poo'ey public parks to themselves.

lb said...

It appears dogs are now banned from this thread as well.

Transpontine said...

@tressilliana ' We go blackberrying in the cemetery in summer'. Really? I couldn't get a signal on mine.

On the dog question - I always swore I'd never have a dog and cursed people who walkled theirs in non-dog areas like T.Hill Lower Park. Then by a chain of events I ended up with a dog - and now moan about not being able to walk my harmless dog through T.Hill Lower Park etc. It made me realize that 90% of what we take for principles is in fact post-hoc rationalization of self-interest.

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