Platform

We'll hopefully get around to writing-up the Brockley Cross Walkabout with Cllr Alexander shortly, but the tour did throw up one little piece of information, relevant to this story about changes to Brockley Station.

Once the changes come in to effect, access via Platform 2 will normally be closed, forcing people through the gates in the statiom. This much we knew. But one bit of good news is that the gate will be open between 3pm and 8pm, with a member of staff present to check tickets.

At other times, direct access to platform 2 for wheelchairs and pushchairs will be possible via an intercom, though it seems doubtful this system will work well during busy times.

40 comments:

Anonymous said...

"with a member of staff present to check tickets"

unless they happen to be doing something else, then they won't be there...

Brockley Nick said...

Quite. But at least the gate should remain open in those circumstances.

Anonymous said...

What this mean for exiting from platform 2? We have to go up the stairs and through the ticket office now?

Anonymous said...

You can always spot the people who live on the poor side of Brockley when exiting the train - they always exit via the ticket office rather than the gate next to the Coffee Shop.

Headhunter said...

Anon 10:53 - Never thought of that. Kind of like 1st class and 2and class staion exits. Perhaps Broc Soc could fund some signposting, something alon the lines of "Conservation area exit this way" and/or "Riff raff up the steps please"

Anonymous said...

No make comments like that because you could lose job and be on poor too.

drakefell debaser said...

riff raff?

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The Brockley Telegraph said...

excuse me I'm no riff raff, did you know that gay people are on average wealthier and more intelligent then our straight counterparts? West brockley is fast becoming the gay Mecca.

Headhunter said...

I knew that would stir up some vitriolic responses and complete humour breakdowns... I was only joking! Do you really think that I believe that everyone on the other side of the tracks is riff raff? Come on... Get a grip...

Andy - yes I am aware of the strength of the pink Pound

Anon - and yes I am aware that at any time I could be "on the poor"

Other anon - probably not worth responding to your expletive as it'll get deleted pretty soon

Anonymous said...

gays have more disposable income/accumulated wealth because on the whole they don't have kids and the financial outlays that go with them, it's nothing any more deeper than that

as for being more intelligent that's just nonsense, some are some aren't, the one's on here certainly aren't

Anonymous said...

well not ALL gay people obviously.

BOss said...

Hey you people, chill out, 'calm down dear' as the man says. Come out the station and be welcomed by the cheerful Speedicars sign - we'll take you to all the best hang outs, whatever the side of the tracks!

If you're poor you can still take a cab, just run off when you get to your destination!

BOss

Anonymous said...

Please answer my question, what happen to exiting station, when ticket barriers come? Can escape station through gate on platform two or no?

Brockley Nick said...

@Anon - sorry, I thought the question had already been answered. When leaving platform 2 you will have to go through the ticket office, except between 3pm and 8pm. And whenever the ticket office is shut.

Headhunter said...

I wouldn't necessarily say that the pink Pound is restricted to the west side of the tracks anyway, in my experience half of Soho and Vauxhall seems to get off at Brockley and head into the conservation area from the last train on a Sat

Brockley Nick said...

Richard "Big Brother" Newman, aka Gaydar DJ lives on the east side of the tracks.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for information Nick. I no like but I understand now.

drakefell debaser said...

Gay Mecca? Gay people more intelligent than straight people! For feck sakes Andy, how many more topics of conversation do you intend to generalise on without substance?

The Brockley Telegraph said...

Actually I've seen academic research on the matter. Prof. Johnathan Wordsworth at LSE produced a good piece of research stating just that. I think it makes sense, I put it down to having a questioning mind and being different to mainstream society, makes you think more.

Now that being gay is more mainstream it will be interesting to see if this trend continues.

There are indeed alot of gay people in the conservation area, and indeed west side. It really is becoming the gay surburbia, a gay brockley society, complete with cat walking would be a welcome addition! :0)

The Brockley Telegraph said...

and the number of gay people living in brockley is on the up- so bare in mind where all this pink pound money is being spent.

Its interesting actually, in terms of regeneration you normally see arty student type move in, then gay people, then more professional people follow. Not sure if anyone else realized this?

@hh, I wasnt being serious, sarcasim doesn't quite work on here when you need to type it :0)

Monkeyboy said...

....tumble weed blows down the corridors of Brockley Central...

What's happened to that new ramped/lanscaped area planned for the outside of the station? Has that been shelved?

Brockley Nick said...

@mb - wait for the write-up!

Anonymous said...

What happened to bold predictions of a new Brockley common by March this year? So much hot air wasted on here about nothing at all.

Andy - how come you're so thick then?

drakefell debaser said...

Well, a quick whip round of opinion from the gay people in my office, of which there are 3, and no one has heard of this research and none of them consider themselves to be more intelligent than straight people. They consider themselves to be more intelligent than some people but they do not draw on the other person’s sexuality as the defining issue – education, experience etc seemed to be more important.

Punching Prof Jonathan Wordsworth into google (not the be all and end all but a pretty good place to start) and it seems he passed away in 2006, was a scholar of English literature and was based in Oxford. Using the search tool at the LSE draws a blank which is surprising as if this work was as ground breaking as you imply surely they would have a record of it.

You seem to enjoy defining people by race, culture and now sexuality yet when the shoe is on the other foot you get upset. I am referring back to the comment posted on here in irony about gay people after you expressed concern over the brass band at the fair, your own blog bleats on about how insulting this was for you. Either say something constructive that is relevant to the original posting or not at all.But, then what do I know as I am one of those less intelligent straight guys without a questioning mind.

Anonymous said...

Drakefell Debaser you saved me from responding, ta.

That guy is such a piece of work.

Brockley Nick said...

@Anon 13.36

I've already covered the fact that the Common project got set back by the takeover of the station by TfL. There are now grander ideas for the station to mark the fact it is becoming a tube station, which is good news in one way, but also meant the Common project had to go back to the drawing board a bit. Having said that, there is still quite a bit of money allocated and planning permission is granted. Hope to have an update on this project shortly.

Anonymous said...

yep, appp bleats on and on about how multiculturalism is rubbish because of it's tendency to proscribe one form of identity to people within a certain group - this is indeed a valid criticism of multiculturalism and lays bear how it denies an individual the multi faceted identities that do actually make them up - it's just a pity that andy does exactly the same type of thing as what he is critcising, except being the exception to the rule that all gays are more intellignet he's too dense to notice

Danja said...

you normally see arty student type move in, then gay people, then more professional people follow

I am sure the gay people in my office would object to the implication that they are less professional than straight people.

Anonymous said...

God you lot struggle with topic relevancy. It seems to be coming more and more a soapbox for certain individuals to babble about any old shite, regardless of what the original issue.

Really quite off putting tbh.

On the subject of the station I still it is going to be really difficult during rush to manage the numbers getting on and off. It all might work fine, though slowly, if everyone is going the same way, but that obviously ain't going to happen.

The Brockley Telegraph said...

Ok, now that you have obviously 'tried' to prove me wrong I have investigated an extra 5 mins of my very expensive time to find out abit more for you.

His name is Johnathan Wadsworth, currently based at Royal Holloway University.

He is a labour economist (you know, study's labour market trends) who did a piece of research that assessed income profiles against sexuality and educational attainment. He concluded - statistically signifcantly - that if you are gay you will earn something like 5-10% more income than if straight, and that indeed, you have a higher standard of educational attainment.

Now, you could argue that educational attainment does not mean a person is intelligent but quite frankly that is just splitting hairs and really is some wishy washy argument.

@Danja, you know exactly what i meant. If anything there is a higher proportion of professional people who are gay (due to them having a higher educational attainment). Go and do some research.

jon s said...

Oh dear........

Ahem, IQ is so biased to higher levels of "developed world" education that any banding of it is meaningless. As for income, less affluent gays exist, they are just less likely to come out of the closet and be counted statistically.

Andy, as you are passionate about this, please post it on your blog. This topic is to discuss the impact train station access will have, and being honest it is making me think twice about buying west of the station now. What will access be like?

The Brockley Telegraph said...

No idea what access will be like. The station is apparently going to be completely re-modelled and there is certainly potential for a direct access to the london bridge bound platform from west of the station but who knows.

Either way, I don't think it would matter to much if we had to cross the bridge.

A said...

Andy, from one intelligent homosexual to another, my advice is tidy up your English if you want people to believe you're more intelligent than they are: "alot"? "study's labour market"?

Tom said...

APPP, you're digging a bigger and bigger hole.

Back on track, London Connections has found out that funding is in place for construction of the first part of phase 2 of the East London Line!

Brockley Nick said...

Tom, that's good news, but just to temper the excitement, that means that they're building one junction that makes practical sense to build during the Phase 1 programme, rather than at a later date.

It doesn't mean that Phase 2 will necessarily go ahead, though I think it's extremely likely that it will.

Tom said...

Yes, I bigged it up maybe excessively, but it would be fairly ridiculous if they did all of that and then didn't go ahead with phase 2. Though stranger things have happened!

Oh, and does anyone know why Amersham Road was taped off by armed police last night?

drakefell debaser said...

Amersham Arms again! The last time I went there – towards the end of last year, there was a burning car outside as I arrived and a lad got bottled in the face a bit later on that evening. It’s a shame because it is a good venue but it seems to be plagued by violence. Prehaps it needs armed police 24/7

Monkeyboy said...

As an averagely intelligent straight bloke who works with TfL and LUL all the time, please do not assume that logic plays any part in planning decisions.

Do dah said...

Disappointing...this is process focussed rather than people focussed. In years to come human rights legislation will focus on matters like this- where the balance of power lies within an interaction between an individual and a system.

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