Coulgate Street: The Future is Now


New arrival "The Brockley Fox" has been inspired by the discussions about Coulgate Street to create some renderings of what could be, drawing on his Cornish heritage to create a new cafe on the site that was once occupied by Speedicars. He's posted them on the Flickr page which we link to, but they deserve their own thread.


It's fantastic work and shows how dramatically an area can be transformed with only a few minor changes. They are not as far-fetched as they might look given where we are today...


We still owe you a write up of the Brockley Cross walkabout, which discussed the changes that could be made to the area, to create this kind of "step-change" which Des Kirkland from the BXAG argued passionately for on the day.

30 comments:

Anonymous said...

Those images are so inspiring. Imagine stepping off the train into an oasis of beauty and practicality (shop wise).

Brockley Nick said...

Any minute now, the "signs" guy will turn up and tell me that I am obsessed with superficial change, while ignoring the deep, substantial issues that really matter. Without specifying what those profound issues actually are.

drakefell debaser said...

fantastic work, it's great to be able to see what could become of that area. Are there any plans for the old Speedicars shop?

Anonymous said...

I've always thought the Speedicars site was perfect for a cafe with tables outside, the same as the graffity painted MOT? buildings if the opened up onto Coulgate st with a bit of pavement for tables and chairs.I love it. well done!

Anonymous said...

Wow! How cool would it be if Brockley looked this way?

Love it!

Hugh said...

Better still, let's all move to Second Life.

The Brockley Telegraph said...

I find it very frustrating that although I would of very much liked to have gone on the brockley cross walkabout - and requesting a invitation from Nick, that Des (from the BCAG) got to go along despite not being very prompt at even requesting an invite.

Clearly, it was not organised on a first come first serve basis, but considering the overall lack of attention on Mantle Road by the BCAG and my focus on trying to get small but marginal improvements I was not even responded to.

Great work brockely fox!

Anonymous said...

I think that 'signs guy' is Ross from some months back. They both share a similiar hectoring tone and a very odd barely punctuated writing style.

Anonymous said...

Boo hoo...no one likes me! (perhaps there' a reason you were not encouraged to attend?)

The Brockley Telegraph said...

Yes, somewhat bizarrely regeneration seems to be dependant upon a popularity contest.

Not surprised at all, but it is a definate two fingers up to those campaiging for a better telegraph hill ward (the BCAG openly stated they seem themselves as a 'brockley ward' action group).

Anonymous said...

OK, you want change, do you want serious change?

I'll invest £500 of my own money (maybe more) in contribution to a new cafe. (terms and conditions apply obviously)


If you want something, pay for it, or are you all just sideliners?

Opening Anon said...

Look this has been talked about. The plan was firstly to get people to attend a think tank to agree the type of change they want in Brockley. Then secondly to turn the thinking was to turn into action.

We don't want just cafes Brockley, nice though they are we want, I'd argue need a bit of creative and or light industry.


I'm sure lots of people in Brockley have a bit of investment cash, but a structure is needed, otherwise you may as well just pour the money down a hole.

Off the back of the last Broc. Soc meeting there was supposed to be an action plan to get things going, I've not seen nothing of that on this site. We need some updates.

Brockley Nick said...

@OA - there was a write up of the Broc Soc meeting in which there was a positive desire to support a wider campaign to improve the fortunes of Brockley Road.

In the resulting chatter on here, I volunteered to get together with Kate and Jon to help organise and publicise a meeting for interested parties. We will do that and update you shortly.

It was only about two weeks ago that the idea was first floated. Since then we have already met with the Deputy Mayor and discussed some of these issues, together with Broc Soc and BXAG. As I mention above, I will write up a report shortly. It's a question of finding the time, in between everything else.

I don't think that's bad progress in a short time. And just to set expectations, the purpose of the meeting will be specifically to discuss ideas for Brockley Road, not to discuss wider issues about how to attract light industry to Brockley.

Anonymous said...

well, yes, I wasn't intending to "pour the money down a hole", I'm not simple you know, and yes, there almost certainly may not be room for another cafe, but what I was trying to do was some positive action and show that I might be more than willing to back my thoughts and actions, and perhaps yours, with money, and eventually most things come down to money.

I'm trying to be positive 'opening anon' I'm not trying to promulgate another 'wife beater' scenario.

The Brockley Telegraph said...

Back to Mantle Road, status update:

1. Clr Robin Cross has currently put in a request to assess the funds/feasibility for a community notice board for 'west brockley'.

2. Clr Ian Page has confirmed that the green area on Mantle road is subject to enhancement via John Stainers 'gardning club' which will will enhance the areas over the coming months.

3. I have managed to get the contractor - Conways to replace some infilled tarmac on a path on Revelon road back with paving slabs.

Currently awaiting:

1. Clr Ian Page is chasing up the possibility of futher paving enhancements in west brockley due to Conways possible poor maintenaince that I have reported on.

2. Clr Ian Page is chasing up some detailed information for me and some further action for the grass area on Mantle Road.

Small things, but important things no less. It's hard to address the wider issues facing Mantle Road if the 'wider brockley ward action group' doe not want to extend the invitation to telegraph hill ward members.

Just out of interest, how many on the walkabout around brockley cross live in the Telegraph Hill Ward Nick?

Opening Anon said...

Ok, thanks for the update, things are moving forward, good.

Personally I think Brockley does need some strategic thinking and light and or creative industry needs to be a part of that.

In part because of the registered successes of the BXAG, Ladywell, Honor Oak and Telegraph Hill have creating action groups and are all pushing for council time and resources to quite rightly sort out their areas.

We in Brockley are innovators and we have to look at new ways to get things done. We have to embrace the commercial opportunites a tube will bring but HARNESS them via a strategic Brockley framework.

We have to try and shape things or things will shape us.

Btw: I am not about causing offence to anyone on here. I have a brash tone, that's how I am.

Maradoll said...

What ever happened to the Brockley Station flower beds? I've been waiting for another volunteer opportunity to start planting?

sign of the times said...

"Any minute now, the "signs" guy will turn up....blah blah blah...zzzz"

your infatuation with me is flattering nick, however it may be best if you don't derail your own threads by indulging yourself in it

spincat said...

Congratulations to Brockley Fox - it is a lovely bit of work and has given me inspiration re presenting some ideas for crofton park, with the next assembly in a few months.

Anti Whinger said...

Andy,

We find it very frustrating you comment about everything, turn most into a "bring back the good old englishness" rant then when called out go ooh, look at my cats aren't they cute!

To be first on the list to an invite you need to supply the content, connections or look hot.

patrick1971 said...

spincat, a couple of us here are thinking of getting together to look at setting up a Crofton Park Residents Association. Would you be interested? Email me on patrick1971 at gmail dot com if so.

Brockley Nick said...
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spincat said...

Patrick - will be in touch by email but rushing today - yes, interested, thanks!

Paddyom said...

Did you give these wonderful pictures to the Council after your walk around Brockley to show the amazing improvements these changes would bring? If not then i would suggest zapping these over to your contact there straight away as it looks really well. I think its brilliant that we can focus our attention on Coulgate street to make it the 'heart' of a new Brockley town centre, something which is really needed in my opinion.

lb said...

Christ, the future is yet another "cafe and kitchen". How much caffeine can one small-ish enclave of commuters ingest, exactly?

Brockley Kate said...

Oh hurrah, he's back! The never-knowingly-underwhinging LB.

lb said...

Charming.

I've stated my objections to the idea that Brockley will only progress by having yet more cafes thrown at it elsewhere on this site. Do you want me to reprise them again? Probably not.

Amanda said...

I have to agree about the amount of cafes. They are good, but who will use them. Are there enough people around Brockley during the day and early evening to use them? If we have a few more places of work here in Brockley, then then that changes things.

I would love for Brockley to be known for making something. Look at Brompton and that Brompton folding bike.

jon s said...

Sigh......

A bit of perspective people. Just because some of us focus on more cafes doesn't mean they are excluding everything else, it just doesn't interest them to consider them in detail.

Cafes are nice and don't exclude the idea of Brockley Business Park and BTW, I'm setting up a local SME next year.

Amanda said...

The thing to take away from what I said is the emphasis on Brockley making things.

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