Brockley flashback: 1998

The other day, when we published a short interview with a German living in Brockley, Hugh retorted that the same interview could have been written in 1998. Brockley was ever thus and always would be.

So, as a relative newcomer to Brockley, we'd like to ask those of you who were in Brockley in 1998 whether Hugh is right? What has changed in Brockley, for better or worse?

To help jog your memory, Dr Doolittle, Armageddon and Godzilla were all in the UK box office top five, while Cher, Celine Dion, Boyzone and B*Witched slogged it out for pop chart dominance. Surely life has got better since then?

27 comments:

Tyrwhitt Road said...

I moved into Tyrwhitt Road in 1988 and apart from a number of the local pubs closing nothing much else has changed from my standpoint.....although I will no doubt remember something as soon as I post this.

Anonymous said...

Brockley felt dangerous back then. It doesn't any more.

Hugh said...

I commend the reason for this piece.

Anna said...

I moved here in 1996. When I told my Dad (who drives a black cab) I was moving here, he said "No not the effing Bronx?! You'll never get a cab home at night luv! Don't do it"

Things have changed massively, especially the area around ths station, although we still get mattresses dumped on our road and the bridge across to the Westside is still lit by an Eastern Block style floodlight.

The biggest change though is commuter numbers at Brockley station, 12 years ago there would be around 30-50 hardy souls on the station in the morning, now it's more like six times that amount, same number of trains though!

Bea said...

I didn’t come to Brockley in 1998 but my childminder’s son was born here in 1964, went to school locally and lived here until a couple of years ago. He tells me Brockley was a very different place when he was a teenager.

In particular, the Breakspears Arms (now Brockley Barge) was a notorious den of iniquity (drug dealers supplying addicts and frequent muggings). No one in their right mind wanted to walk past it.

TJ moved here c. 1998 - maybe he has something to add?

Tyrwhitt Michael said...

Tyrwhitt Road was meant to be me by the way...

Hugh said...

7-bedders on Wickham going for 280K, hmm? Jumpers for goalposts?

Anonymous said...

Brox station was a bit rammed this morning. I would pick today to use it rather than the positively gentile Ladywell...

Anonymous said...

Forget the past, I am more concerned with the future. I am terrified my flat is going to bomb in price. I knew when I bought it, I was a ridiculous price, but that was the world were in.

"If you can keep your head when all about you, Are losing theirs..." sadly I couldn't

drakefell debaser said...

Yes but:...if you can wait and not be tired by waiting... you might find it will be OK.

A slight digression. I am pleased the world has moved on since Cher topped the charts

Chaim said...

Yes, anon@12:12. Damn those non-Jews and their Railway Stations.

Oi vey is mir! etc. ;-)

Kosher said...

Sorry, I meant genteel!

patrick1971 said...

Cher tends to have hits every ten years or so (her last big hit before 1998's Believe was 1989's If I Could Turn Back Time, and before that 1979's Take Me Home), so we could be in for another dose. But that's fine by me; I like Cher. Shoot me!

I wasn't living in Brockley in 1998, but a friend of mine moved in in 1996. Biggest obvious difference is the Breakspears Arms. We might not especially like the Barge, but it's five million times better than what was there before. Area around the station is much nicer. Moonbow Jakes, Jam Circus both good. Apart from that it doesn't seem to have changed a great deal. Which is nice in its own way.

ALI KATI said...

I moved to Brockley in 1998.

Things I miss which are no longer here - Home View Video store and the Jamaican deli/bakery that is now some dodgy estate agents. Also back then, the cash point at the petrol station did not charge you to take out money.

But the facilities on Hilly Fields have improved ie ping pong tables and the tennis courts looked refreshed too.

Anonymous said...

I miss Speedycars' old sign :(

tyrwhitt michael said...

Taking of which I am very impressed with Portland's new signs, drive past inspection only, which appear very conservation area friendly.

I am told the Coral shop accross the Road has shut so maybe every cloud has a silver lining.

The Cat Man said...

I had a feeling some people on here would be pleasently surprised. Let me know when they open, i want to corner the owner and twist his/her arm to participate in the Xmas market :o)

Anonymous said...

Yeah, we they could take bets on whether a new baby Jesus will be discovered in Brockley.

Anonymous said...

Hopefully Coral will reopen as a funeral home, there are only 3 such establishments on that small parade of shops so I feel we really could do with a little competition in that sector ;)

Anonymous said...

Oh a new PUB PUB PUB please!

brockley mutha said...

Things that have changed since 1999 (that's when i moved here)

Moonbow jakes
chi chi coulgate rd shops
joggers (there has been a jogging explosion in hillyfields)
breakspears arms
resurfaced tennis courts
all these little tescos
cashback!

there isn't a sense of brockley as undiscovered territory. It seems almost suburban in many ways.

Brockley Nick said...

So we've swapped an air of lonely menace for crowded platforms and a ping pong table.

That's progress!

Transpontine said...

I moved round here in 1996, actually just up the road in the T.Hill area of New Cross. The main difference for me is that I am now to be found in Brockley three or four times a week, whereas then I never went there. The reason is really coffee - in 1996 I went to East Dulwich to satisfy my cravings or even Brixton. Then came Moonbow Jakes, then Toads Mouth and then Brocca (I know there are now others, but the latter is where I usually end up at the moment). The cashpoint thing is really annoying though, especially as many places don't take card payments. Still miss B*Witched though, they were the greatest Irish pop band ever.

tj said...

I agree with Brockley Mutha about the changes since I was here in 98. I also think the main difference is those who live here - a huge difference in numbers getting off the train at Brockley and St Johns, mainly the young graduate type now. Also seen the streets (especially non-conservation area) improve. Downside is the street sweepers - used to be a guy I said hello to every day on the way to work who swept the street. Now I see a guy maybe once a month.

Hugh said...

Nick, can we have a thread on people's reactions to the credit jazz and how they're coping?

Anonymous said...

Ooh, good one! I've had to scale back on my vegetarian fair trade organic coffees and seeds... Nescafe aint as bad as you'd think!

Monkeyboy said...

Well personally I'm Mr risk averse so no adventurous borrowing or investments.

Final salary pension (luverly!!), Cash ISA with the Post office, No shares except some free ones I got when i worked with Alcatel (worth f**k all) about £95k mortgage left to pay (on a 3 bed terrace so plenty of breathing space)

Feeling smug.

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