Sing when you're winning

... But who to sing for? That's the question. Brockley is reasonably close to three major football teams - Crystal Palace, Charlton Athletic and the dreaded Millwall. So which should Brockleyites support?

According to Google Maps, it's 3.1 miles from Brockley to Millwall's ground The Den, 3.7 miles to Charlton Athletic's ground The Valley, and 6.3 miles to Selhurst Park, Crystal Palace's ground.

So on a purely geographical basis, Millwall clearly has it. But can it be as simple as that? And who do BC readers support?

19 comments:

Ross said...

but isn't millwall actually on one of those curvy bits of the river in tower hamlets?
so essentially north or the river!?

we should be supporting Ebbsfleet FC. only 15.2 miles from the stadium and we could probably buy shares in them!

Tamsin said...

No, Millwall football team and ground is actually within the borough of Lewisham. Turn right off the A2 as you leave New Cross and well before you get to Peckham. I would support them. The British always go for the under-dogs, Father Owen of All Saints New Cross is a keen supporter, and they've provided heavily subsidisedbasketball training for my son and his friends at £1 a session.

Jackie said...

When I lived in SE London I vaguely supported Charlton, as when I lived in Lee High Rd the free papers only mentioned them. When I moved back to Brockley I just kept the allegiance.

Now I'm in Glasgow I'm bucking the trend and supporting a non-Glasgow team (and just avoiding the local Celtic pubs), which helps when asked the very loaded question "Do you support Celtic or Rangers?"**. Stenhousemuir rule!

** Actually most Glaswegians would answer "Partick Thistle" to that question.

853blog said...

Millwall itself is the western side of the Isle of Dogs; the club moved from there to New Cross in 1910.

I've spent many a time trying to persuade a Brockley-ite to see the light and come to The Valley rather than the New Den :-(

Richard said...

Hull City! Dad's a Hull exile, but managed to drag me to at least a dozen games a season from the age of about 18 months!

Endured years of misery, near-collapse and constant comments of "who?" from Londoners and now we're basking in glory at the top of the Premiership!

Millwall is the traditional club for Brockleyites - a lot of dockers used to live in the area and both Dens were a short trip down the road.

Graham said...

I'm a Norwich fan, but have a soft spot for Charlton locally. Nice family club, run the right way. Good ground, pleasant fans. Unlike Palace (horrid Simon Jordan can't be supported) and Millwall (no comments required about their fans)....

Anonymous said...

arsenal all the way but keep my eye on the palace as it was the first place I ever saw a match. NEVER EVER millwall and if you grew up round here and remember their history u would know why

Mungwall said...

Didn't grow up around here so... what did they get up to?

lb said...

Why bother with the moronic sport of football when the Oval isn't too far away?

Not much good at this time of year, admittedly.

Tressilliana said...

I know diddlysquat about football but Millwall fans have a reputation going back for nearly a century for violence and, later, racism. The club says it has tackled this with vigour and it certainly appears to have a fair bit of community involvement nowadays.

tyrwhitt ali said...

I'm a fan of Tranmere Rovers for the good it does me. Went to Charlton a few times when they used to have rugby league there as I'm more of a rugby fan. (My dad always said a football match was no place for a young girl!) Never made it to Blackheath RFC though.

Headhunter said...

Arsenal were originally Woolwich Arsenal weren't they? They moved to Islington sometime last century. Could they count as a local team?

Monkeyboy said...

Quiet a few Gooners where I used to work in Greenwich so I guess so,

drakefell debaser said...

We were discussing this a few months back and decided on Crystal Palace. Simon Jordan is certainly brash but I do admire his straight talking manner and it will be a shame once he sells up.

With CP in the Championship and the Lions in League one (Charlton look to be here soon as well) there is a local team in each of the top 3 divisions except the Premiership. Arsenal were originally from Woolwich as headhunter points out so I think they count, they are also the only London based Premiership team at the moment I would pay money to watch.

I don't want to shout too loud at the moment because my team is currently number 1 in the premiership, if that is still the case come spring then I might find myself hollering 'You'll Never Walk Alone' from my roof. It has been 18 years after all.

Daryl said...

Millwall fans have a reputation going back for nearly a century for violence and, later, racism.

Unfortunately Millwall fans do have this reputation, but it is mostly based on fiction and self perpetuating rumors. In the unfortunate history of football hooliganism, Millwall rank quite low on the 'terror' scale really. Look to West Ham/Chelsea in London and Leeds also merit a mention as particularly unfriendly places to visit.

Brockley Nick said...

Brockley is an area that blends artistry with cosmopolitan multi-culturalism and is perpetually "on the up" but is in need of a tube line.

Therefore, the club of choice for Brockley residents should be my team, Spurs.

I have a soft spot for both Charlton and Palace - I don't know why anyone who had a free choice would support Millwall over them.

And then of course, there is Manchester City ;)

Monkeyboy said...

Off course when the ELL reopens you'll be able to get a train straight to Highbury & Islington. Handy for seeing the Gooners do unmentionable things to your goal difference.

By the way, I worked on a feasability study to make H&I both 'Step Free'and higher capacity - to support the Emirates stadium. I believe it was a condition to get that sorted before the Stadium was given the go ahead. I'm told the Step Free thing has been binned.

James said...

It's not all about the league teams y'know!

Coming from Scotland, Watching Rangers isn't an easy option anymore so my new local side is Dulwich Hamlet of the Ryman’s League Division 1 South (that's 4 leagues below the professionals).

Whilst this might sit uncomfortably with the "Which is better: Brockley or Dulwich" crowd, the 484 bus will drop you off at the ground from Hilly Fields in about 10 minutes.

They also play in a metrosexual pink and blue kit and if that's not enough sway you, then surely a pre-game pint in the East Dulwich Tavern (lesser cousin of the Jam Circus) should seal the deal.

Shane said...

Another Norwich supporter here. I was born there. I've been to Palace and Charlton several times and Millwall once but only when the Canaries are playing.

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