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Brockley Kate's spotted this list of the gangs of London, produced by the Met Police.SE4 scores a mere two gangs, compared with Hackney's 22.
Who are dees Brockley Man Dem?!
I don't think 'Shower Camp' really works. Time to think again SE8.
is 'Man Dem' some kind of franchise? If not I'm buying up the brand name. There are some postcodes where the Man Dem brand has not penetrated.
This is where we watch newly middle class people embarass themselves.
Them IT boys are ruff innit.http://www.mandem.com/
Ghetto Boyz clearly have good marketing/member retention - holding not just one postcode but se8, se14 and SE13.
'Man Dem' Mission Statement. "Members of Man Dem commit to shank those who dis us with the utmost urgency"
Very disappointed to find that my old stomping grounds of SE's 9 & 10 have yet to return massives of some description.
I'm looking forward to the showdown between 'The Darksiders' and 'The Conservation Area Crew'I expect they will both be very cross with each other.
Man Dem is a hommie according to the urban dictionary. Some of these gang names are ridiculous though and you would almost expect some of these terrors to turn up with stabilisers fitted to their BMX asking you what you are doing on their set of stairs. Apart from Murder Zone from Brixton that is, who sound quite serious.
De Beauvoir Man Dem, Shakespeare Manz, Pepys Man. Book groups that turned feral, I suppose.
Shouldn't it be 'De Beauvoir Town les femmes elles-mêmes'?
Ooh! Tres bon. A play on Simone de B. Je l'aime.
To elucidate further:Man Dem 2 thumbs down Definition is Jamaican/Patois slang meaning - "them men over there" literally, but is used to describe the men in society, can be used for random people/friends - mostly used for friends/acquaintances these days in London. "he's my man dem" (pointing)"man dem's ma bredren" - he's my boy/friend
Perhaps the Broc Soc should re brand itself to appeal to the younger conservation area resident... Something along the lines of Brockley Massive or Posse? A little predictable but Manz and Man Dem have both been taken and Boyz would alienate potential women members....It's a little alarming though that a postcode as small as SE4 (I think one of the smallest postcodes in London?) has 2 gangs whereas New Cross, that well known centre of murder and pillaging only has 1 identified gang....
"It's a little alarming though that a postcode as small as SE4 (I think one of the smallest postcodes in London?) has 2 gangs whereas New Cross, that well known centre of murder and pillaging only has 1 identified gang...." 1. i think that list is wrong, for example pepys boys or whatever they're called are clearly from se14, not 8. i believe that se14 was the desired location of britains youngest ever fire arms carrier as well.2. you've got to try and think of how they actually compile those lists. i imagine they do it by youtube searches or graffiti on bus windows - both of which are generally created by preteens, not actual gang members. i would only start to get worried if they did these on how many people got shot.
I like the way that distance is denoted in units of thumb - much like a painter uses his or hers as a scaling device when held at arms length. Or have I got that wrong?Is this patois original Jamaican or more homegrown?*gets back to the Telegraph*
I copied and pasted that definition from the Urabn Dictionary online. I think the thumbs thing is some way of voting for the definition or something....
@Ross 'Pepys boys or whatever they're called are clearly from se14, not 8'.I guess they are more likely to be from the Pepys Estate (SE8) thatn Pepys Road (SE14).More generally though, there is a whole spectrum of gangs, from groups of friends who sometimes get up to mischief through to organised criminal enterprises who exist primarily for crime (especially dealing and associated violence). Not all of these 'gangs' will be in the latter category.
Forgive me for dragging this in but Mung Man Dems has a ring to it.
How about Fried Chicken Boyz?
Yes, the Fried Chicken Boyz vs. the Mung Man Dem are the brockley hot potatoes.No bearing AT ALL on the darkside vs. lightside debate...!
De Kat Manz
What about the Manor Militia?
"De Kat Manz" looks like some German word for a secret Nazi police force!
Suddenly I am having visions of a UK version of The Wire, relocated from Baltimore to Brockley. McNulty et al are sent to sort out the territorial mung bean wars between the Darksiders and the Conservation Area Crew.
lol...pepys boys from telegraph hill. they are definitely from deptford pepys estate
serious deptford knowledge fail on my part!
Meanwhile, as you trivialise the subject, the carnage continues:http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/4309741.UPDATE___NEW_CROSS__Officers_investigate_afternoon_shooting/
"Meanwhile, as you trivialise the subject, the carnage continues"Are your wrists aching from all that hand-wringing? Last time I checked, the people who case that "carnage" are the criminals involved in gangs and guns. Don't want to get shot? Don't get involved. This person has discharged himself from hospital, which means he's trying to avoid official and police involvement. Definitely dodgy.
I was thinking the same thing, Patrick. Harsh as it may sound, as long as the gangs keep shooting each other and don't bother me, I have other things to worry about. Hopefully they'll wipe each other out.
That's a very simplistic view. Kids are not born gangsters. If you grow up there you stand a chance of getting drawn in, it's what teenagers do - emulate their mates. They will not shoot each other out of existence, occasionally they may rob recruitment consultants. I'm not saying all they need is a hug but they were kids once, have to find a way of stopping them joining rather then wait until they start serious stuff and lock them up.
It's nonsense to suggest that gang members only hurt other gangsters- remember the Polish woman (Magda Pniewska) shot dead in crossfire between two drug dealers. Gang activity is a blight on an area; imagine how awful it must be trying to raise children as decent citizens with their peers perhaps being drawn into criminality. Quote from the New Shopper link above:''News Shopper spoke to a New Cross resident who lives near the scene of the shooting. He said: "It goes on all the time. By the time you write about this one there will probably be four or five more. "All we do is look after each other and try to get our kids off the street." Scary stuff.
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