Let's Move To Deptford

In 2007, Daily Mail editor Paul Dacre condemned newspapers like The Guardian of being "patronisingly contemptuous of... ordinary people."

Some weeks back, The Daily Mail came to Deptford and served up what can only be described as a patronisingly contemptuous article.

For a feature it's planning about ordinary life in Deptford, The Guardian's currently asking people who live there what they like and dislike about it:

Do you live in Deptford, south-east London? Do you have a favourite haunt or pet hate? If so, please write, by next Friday, to lets.move@guardian.co.uk

The sandal-wearing bastards.

Anyway, feel free to influence the piece - 'proximity to Brockley' ought to be perfectly acceptable as a plus point.

With thanks to Monkeyboy, who does exist.

27 comments:

Hugh said...

Creekside will do a lot for Deptford but I assume it will become known as part of Greenwich. Deptford Church Street is a boundary I doubt the mung beaners will ever properly cross.

Anonymous said...

Do these people really know what there letting themselves in for,Mung beaners ? Do you mean vegetarian's, Apache word for bad hunter.

Hugh said...

Have you ever won a writing prize?

Anonymous said...

Is it me or is Hugh getting funnier?

Anonymous said...

Must have changed his copywriting team.

Anonymous said...

I wouldn't be writing on here if I did.

Rosie H said...

Anyone read the poorly-written Guardian Let's Move To on Greenwich last month?

http://bit.ly/movetose10

Should be enough to deter people. Both Deptford and Brockley are safe for a while longer

Hugh said...

I've been having this 'when will Brockley hit the big time' debate with a friend for several years. The answer is it won't, since not enough about it can change. Contrast Deptford, where flash new flats will attract lot of moneyed young professionals. There are too many freeholds in council hands in Brockley for the proportion of free-spending Mung bean progeny to increase in relation to the local population as a whole. To put it another way: Brockley is stuck with too many poor people.

It may not be PC to say it, but it needed saying.

Richard said...

Hugh, it depends what you mean by big time. One reason I like Brockley is the lack of space for flash new apartment blocks - existing houses and streets are beautiful and I'm not sure I want to see an influx of people looking for the flash apartments. If hitting the big time means more shops, restaurants, cafes and bars, with a real community feel (eg BMax) and without too many big chains muscling in (eg Greenwich) then I think we're well on the way.

Anonymous said...

Hugh theres a lot more "poor people" In Deptford than Brockley, trust me.

Anonymous said...

As far as shops, restaurants and bars are concerned I think that Crofton Park and Ladywell are outstripping Brockley now - Brockley is pretty sad with it tatty railings, big corporate pub and sorting office.

Deptford is an entirely different kettle of fish.

anon said...

Brockley IS tatty, but so what you're posting on Brockley Central not Ladywell or Crofton Park central and that's because we have a community of people that care about the place.

Brockley may be tatty but we are the hub which other areas feed off or are inspired by. Brockley people help others, we aren't selfish, look at the BC gig night held at Ladywell Tavern. I am confident that Brockley will be alright regardless of fancy shops.

Hugh said...

I'm quite selfish I'll have you know.

Anonymous said...

Brockleyites think nothing of annexing local areas when it suits them.

"we are the hub which other areas feed off or are inspired by"

yeah, right...

Lead me to the teats of brockley so I may suckle and grow fat on the mothers milk.

Anonymous said...

yeah, that new mural could have just been a giant pair of tits.

Anonymous said...

in a way, I suppose it is...

Brockley Nick said...

The middle bit of Brockley has a fair number of good shops and businesses just off the main road. But one of the best things about living around here is that whatever direction you walk in, there are nice bits and places worth visiting within easy reach by foot. Crofton Park (which of course is Brockley), Telegraph Hill, Ladywell Village, which is just as tatty, but which has a core of good businesses, Deptford and a bit further afield New Cross, Nunhead and Greenwich.

In many other bits of SE London, walk a few minutes and you hit industrial estate, rubbish strewn commercial park, the A2 or the Old Kent Road.

Anonymous said...

Its typical on here,moan for a while, then It all dies down.

Anonymous said...

I don't think Crofton Park is part of Brockley, in fact it doesn't share any of its ward boundaries with Brockley, just stop annexing parts of other wards for your own bloated purposes and leave your neighbours alone!!!

Brockley Nick said...

Oh jesus anon, do we have to have this debate every few days? Ward boundaries are not the only definition of an area. SE4 is Brockley. Crofton Park is in SE4.

Much of Brockley Ward is actually in Deptford.

Headhunter said...

Hugh - You may be right about Brockley never hitting the big time, it depends on what yuo mean by "big time", it's never going to Chelsea and Kensington I'm sure. One of my neighbours has lived in her flat on Manor Ave for nearly 20 years and she said that Brockley and the street has changed considerably for the better over the years, she said that friends who have visited her have noticed.

The presence of social housing won't necessarily stop Brockley's rise, as I have pointed our here before, Islington, where I used to live, is riddled with social housing and seems to do quite nicely.

As for the new flats in Deptford, I think I prefer Manor Ave. I've got a friend in that development next to Deptford Bridge DLR. Yes, it's a nice flat, but the whole development has the feel of a student halls of residence. For "moneyed young professionals", read "20 somethings fresh out of uni with more money to spend on alcohol than sense". The place has its own canteen, bar, gym etc, how more like a student halls could it be?

Anonymous said...

Not the only definition no, but one you choose to use because it means that Brockley covers a larger area.

Whats next?

Oh, part of Poland is called Brocklowski so it must obviously belong to us and we demand their mineral rights?

Brockley Nick said...

Well not really, I think the most standard definition is the postcode. As has been discussed ad nauseum if you read elsewhere on this site, Crofton Park is the historic heart of Brockley.

But anyway, I guess I'd put it another way and say - what is the point of trying to divide an area in to smaller and smaller sections? Reductio ad absurdum.

Anywhere I can walk to within 20 mins from Brockley Station is Brockley in my book. Who cares if I cross some arbitrary lines in the process? It's about the facilities that are local to me as a resident - the things that benefit my quality of life as someone who lives in Brockley. Hilly Fields is my local park, a few mins from my house, but not in the Brockley Ward - so what? So what if Ladywell Tavern is in Ladywell, it made a great venue for a Brockley Central music night. etc

drakefell debaser said...

Lead me to the teats of brockley so I may suckle and grow fat on the mothers milk

Every once in a while you come across a sentence that you will never ever see again. Yours anon is one of them.

Big up the Brockley Baps.

Anonymous said...

Now you're just being pedantic

;)

Monkeyboy said...

....so anyway I've emailed in recommending Deptford Market. WH Beloved butchers, Deptford Deli and the railway carriage thing - which I think has the Hugh seal of approval.

For those who wants to tell everyone how shit SE London is, and by extension how shit their home is, feel free to email in. It's a free country you know.

Anonymous said...

Deptford is in Brockley you know Monkeyboy, please make that clear to the Guardian.

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