NOSHOW – Ring of ire short-circuits

NOGOE, the campaign group opposed to the use of Greenwich Park as an Olympic venue, staged a protest this weekend, which the BBC reported as “a ring around Greenwich Park.”

Darryl at 853 blog reckons they got a perfectly respectable turnout, but nowhere near the number they would have needed to form a human ring around Greenwich Park. Like the Teabaggers, they overstated their numbers, just as (as 853 blog notes) they have overstated the issues that the Olympics will create in the borough.

BC gets incredibly frustrated with dishonest alarmism from local prostest groups. Ultimately, it's self-defeating. Honesty - on all sides - is always the best policy.

[Londonist has more here]

32 comments:

darryl853 said...

Good headline!

There's no way there was a "ring around the park" as the BBC reported - but BBC London has a terrible record of simply rehashing press releases on its website.

I was in another part of the park at the time and saw no evidence of any ring around the park, although these photos show a decent turnout for a protest at the foot of the park.

Somewhere between NOGOE's alarmism and the propaganda from Greenwich Council (you lucky lot don't have to put up with that) is the truth, unfortunately LOCOG don't realise they need to raise their game in engaging with local people.

Headhunter said...

They would have needed hundreds of thousands of people to make a ring right round the park! Slightly ambitious on a rainy day in October methinks!

All the same, I am glad these people are taking an active interest in the protection of the park. LOCOG and Greenwich Council has assured everyone that there will be no damage to the park and it's hard to prove that it will until the event actually takes place. However I'm glad someone is taking an active interest in what goes on and when the park is inevitably, formally chosen as the location for equine events, I hope they continue to keep the pressure up to make asbolutely sure that LOCOG and GBC are kept to their word.

Tamsin said...

I think both sides are being economical with the truth and shifting their grounds. If the Olympic planners are now saying no trees will be cut that is great - earlier it was that the damage would be kept to a minimum - whatever that means. Also it is not the arena that was the worry for those concerned for the longer term inpact but the cross country course which would be much larger and where the turf is really cut up and restoration a costly process that is likely to be quietly shelved or indefinitely postponed in the aftermath of the Games.

500, though, for the protest is a very low turnout after all their publicity.

Headhunter said...

Yes, I can certainly see the reason for concern. There are lots and lots of very mature and yonger trees across the park, it is surely going to be VERY tricky to avoid damaging any of these at all and install a whole cross country horse trail (don't know the technical term).

Boiled wool jumper wearer said...

Not in our back yard

Tom said...

the NOGOE protesters are wild in their complaints but have achieved some gains - the olympics organisers have trimmed some of the timings of how long the park will close, and have provided some clarity on what will be done.

agreed that some honesty would be useful. after reading their propaganda I usually end up sympathising with the "other side".

Oh, and it would have taken about 5000 people to ring the 4km circumference of the park, I would reckon.

Tamsin said...

Possibly 2500 - people were asked to bring a metre of ribbon.

Anonymous said...

Let them swap It to Hilly Fields we will have the events.

Anonymous said...

You'd probably find one of the sattelite dish crew to complain about that...

Anonymous said...

Transfer it to Woolwich and you have the headline..."They Shoot Horses Don't They?"

Brockley Nick said...

I take it you're referring to the shooting events, rather than to the level of gun crime? ;)

Paddyom said...

Bring it to SE4 then if Greenwich doesnt want the honour of hosting the Olympics. Cities around the world bend over backwards to host it, but not Greenwich it seems.

Anonymous said...

Not just Mean Time then,Also Mean Minded.

Tressilliana said...

Private Eye had some coverage of this in the most recent issue, or maybe the one before that. The point that was stressed there was that the big selling point of having the Games in London was going to be legacy. However, if the showjumping is in Greenwich Park and the shooting is in Woolwich, instead of in places with existing facilities and track record for these events, there will be no legacy. It will also be far more expensive.

I don't know much about this (and I should say that I'm very pleased that the Games are coming to London) but those seemed to me to be quite compelling points. I love Greenwich Park and would be very sorry not to be able to go there freely for several months in the run-up to the Games. I'd also be pretty upset if there was serious damage to any of the trees, which are one of the great glories of the place, surely?

tyrwhitt ali said...

I was in the Park on Sunday and completely missed the process. Plenty of 5km runners for one of the Diabetes charities though.

Lou Baker said...

1. London 2012 organisers are idiots if they think they have to close the whole park.

2. The protesters are idiots for not welcoming the Olympics.

3. No doubt the horsey set are idiots too.

Anonymous said...

I'm just looking forward to renting out my near-park flat for the duration for a hugely inflated price to idiot poshos, and skipping town until it's all over.

Tamsin said...

I am wondering what the Olympics will do to the short-term rental market. Should ask my brother who lived through the Sydney experience.

Anonymous said...

There are already websites for you to rent out property.

Brockley Nick said...

I thought one of the people on here who thinks the word "mung" is a bottomless comedy well might have come up with a joke about "The Million Mung March".

Had they done so, I might have credited them with a bit of wit. But they didn't.

love detective said...

that's about as funny as any other mung joke nick, i.e. not funny in the slightest

Brockley Nick said...

Yes, welcome back Fred.

love detective said...

thank you very much

darryl853 said...

From the safety of SE7, I think "mung" is definitely a bottomless pit of comedy.

Someone I know who is sympathetic to the NOGOE cause went and put the attendance at 250-300. Which would be borne out by the photos.

A commenter on my blog's now claiming "much of the park will be closed for up to two years". See how insane this has got?

Brockley Nick said...

I particularly like NOGOE's latest strategy, which is presumably a response to people who've pointed out that there is a bloody-great expanse of green space just up the hill from the park.

They're now trying to argue that Blackheath is basically not suitable as an alternative, because it could collapse at any moment, making the whole thing out of bounds.

Won't somebody think of the children!

Anonymous said...

Greenwich Mung Time?

darryl853 said...

Well, to be fair, Blackheath isn't suitable to take your dog for a walk on, for fear that Fido might get squished by traffic on the A2.

But there's East Greenwich Pleasance and St Alphege Churchyard as walled alternatives close by, Hilly Fields, Charlton Park, the park on the peninsula, Deptford Park, Maryon/Maryon Wilson Parks and Sutcliffe Park a couple of miles futher away, and Oxleas Meadow beyond that.

2012 could be a good opportunity for Greenwich and Lewisham councils to get their heads together and promote some of this green space - contrary to what some of the protesters claim, we live in an amazingly green stretch of London.

Anonymous said...

I don't think you could a squash an Xcountry event in Maryon Wilson park, think of the small animals in the childrens farm thingey!

Anyway chop down the trees and close the park - we'll get to see Zara Phillips lose to some New Zealander!

Anonymous said...

Right here's the plan....

Move the show jumping to Hilly Fields, I'm sure the police could house a few more horses at Lewisham cop shop or use one their horse wagons.

The changing rooms will be tarted up and a restraunt added as part of the required legacy.

Transport legacy: Boris could be easily be persuaded to extend the Bakerloo Line to Lewisham and beyond to Hayes.

Prendergast School will be taken over to house the adminstrators and teams.

On event days front gardens of houses facing Hilly Fields will be turned into stables. House owners will be compensated by as much horse manure as they can shovel.

That will be the 'green' legacy leaving an abundance of well fed flowers in future years.

The manure could inject much needed economic wealth into the area by the auctioning Brockley Poo on Ebay.

Brockley Nick said...

I like it!

Anonymous said...

Of course no trees were destroyed or injured in the landscaping of the park in the 17th century.

john said...

Brockley Olympics yay!

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