Brock Mania

Perhaps we have gone too far.

We've been tweeted by a BC reader, asking what we think of Forest Hill as an alternative to Brockley.

After weeks of trying to find a place in SE4, she "pitched up last Saturday to view a house only to be met with a load of identikit young childless couples (us included), practically queueing to get in."

"As you know, it's a nice area with lush houses, zone 2 with the East London Line coming, perfect for us EC1 workers looking for the quiet life. But perhaps we have just been priced out of Brockley now."

If anyone else is househunting in the area at the moment, please let us know if you've had the same experience.

28 comments:

b. said...

phew, glad we got in early!

Sarah said...

I lived in Forest Hill for a while, and really loved it. Nice high street, beautiful park, good links into central London and some lovely houses.

Having said that, I still prefer Peckham/Nunhead.

M said...

We are planning to move to a bigger place this year and I've been keeping an eye on the market locally. The trouble seems to be that there are very few properties available so when one does come up it gets lots of views and goes quickly.
Our neighbours recently upgraded and sold their 2 bed flat in under 2 weeks but couldn't find anything they liked for over 3 months.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like 3 years ago. I turned up to a viewing to a 4 bed house on the west side - i was first to arrive, and more and more people kept turning up. By the time the estate agent arrived with the keys I'd counted 19 people. When the door opened it was like a feeding frenzy, young couples, developers with notebooks, vitually running around the place. i'd been wanting to move for about 2 years and had various disappointments so I pretty much just stuck my head in the door- saw that the place was bigger than anything i'd seen before and immediately called the agent and offered the asking price, which was accepted within the hour. I then went back later with my wife to see if we actually liked the place at our own leisure.

we're living there now and very glad we moved here.

Brockley Nick said...

A woman sitting next to me has litterally just put an offer in on a Forest Hill flat. She looked at Dulwich, Brockley, Peckham Rye, Honor Oak. In the end, the property swung it for them, rather than the area.

Mb said...

Is this the first house price thread of the spring? Be time to cut the grass soon

Michael said...

There are certainly worse things than having to live in Forest Hill! (I've lived there for 30 years)

My expectation is that under-priced properties all along the line will be snapped up. Everybody who lives in the area knows how under valued South East London is, simply because it does not appear on the tube map.

Brockley and Forest Hill are both great places to live (and New Cross, Sydenham, and Honor Oak) and now we will have trains every 4-6 minutes connecting these areas. We are closer than we have ever been before!

Brockley Jon said...

Forest Hill is of equal greatness to Brockley, but definitely has a higher yummy mummy concentration than Brockley. It's the student influence in Brockley that keeps it a bit younger I think, you just don't see that in Forest Hill.

More Forest Hill ramblings coming soon in my contribution to The Future's Orange series.

Rachel said...

I think we're the stereotypical Brockley newcomers. Childless young professionals. Bought a 2 bed in Brock Con in October (offer accepted in June). Prices have definitely increased a bit since but good bargains can be found but you have to act quick. Befriend the estate agents! We looked at the usual suspects in Southeast, namely Peckham, Nunhead, HOP, New X. Brockley had the perfect balance of good value for money, zone 2 and a great chilled, community feel. This blog and the brockley map helped, it showed us what there was to offer in the area. We love Brockley.

Anonymous said...

In my experience and having talked to friends about their buying experiences I think it is usually the property that swings it. You obviously have to be comfortable with the area, but people tend to not want to live in a below expectation property in a good area, but will live in an above expectation property in a worse area. Ultimately i guess when you shut the door in the evening you have to live there.

Anonymous said...

I think the proximity of Brockley to Can Wharf will ultimately do the trick.

As Michael correctly says, the tube map advertises certain parts of London - ie tube connected ones! - around the globe and for us finally to appear on it will make a difference out of all proportion to the new service actually.

By the way, I had been sceptical about the way that the bigger houses were suddenly hoovered up but I have done a bit of research and it transpires that the one in Tressillian at least went for v close to the asking price of 1.195mm. 82 Tress I think it was.

So that readjusts other houses nearby and by implication surely flats as well?

b. said...

Brockley Jon - more yummy mummies than brockley??! sheeeit, i thought brockley was turning into E Dulwich lately - Forest Hill must be madness.

(sorry yummy mummies, one day we'll have one of our own and I'll be on your side, until that day...)

shamelessly obsessed about house-prices said...

Yes flat prices have recently re-aligned upwards on Zoopla.

Anonymous said...

Ho hum - my only thought is don't beat up the "young childless couples" too much - many of them (like me and Mr Anonymous) moved here with the intent of staying s while. 2.5 years on and we are expecting Anonymous Junior in a month - and i'd like to think we contribute in a nice way (albeit anonymously) to the local area

Anonymous said...

I live on Foxberry Road and last Saturday was walking down the street with my two children and saw a queue of people behind an estate agent opening up a house for viewing....I was quite surprised to see so much interest!

love detective said...

what's an ED1 worker?

Brockley Nick said...

Ah, sorry LD, EC1.

love detective said...

i thought it was some kind of sociological categorisation and was getting ready to rage about it!

M said...

Brockley Still A Bargain says Guardian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/gallery/2010/mar/31/trading-up-trading-down-properties?picture=361007759

Trixie said...

SHOO the lot of you! errrm, can I suggest that you don't try to move to Brockley/Telegraph Hill/St Johns etc and go somewhere else? I've heard Norwood's nice or maybe Crystal Palace or perhaps Sydenham? perhaps then some people who've actually LIVED HERE ALL OUR LIVES may be able to get a foot in... obviously I know there's nothing i can do about it, new people in the area are good blah blah blah but sometimes it pisses me off - esp the people that own massive 5 beds in T. Hill AND flats in Brockley that they rent. Grrrrrr

Tamsin said...

You'll get shot for saying that! The ELL effect and the influx of incomers who would not consider buying anything unless they can find it on a "tube" map or are told to do so in the property pages of the paper of their choice has to be nothing but beneficial - gainsay that at your peril.

We are fated to become the new "whatever" and should not try to shirk that destiny.

Brockley Jon said...

@B., it's the Horniman, they flock to it! But it's not as bad as E Dulwich, that is madness.

Brockley Nick said...

@LD - ED1 stands for "Exceptionally Desriable, top 1% earners". Not ED1? Not welcome in Brockley.

Anonymous said...

Sarah said: " nice high street, beautiful park"......where is the beautiful park in Forest hill? Are you referring to the Horniman gardens or is there somewhere else I don't know about? lovely to know about green areas

we have just bought in East Dulwich part which is close to forest hill, peckham rye park, and honor oak. whereever you live all of these places are so close so property is most probably deciding factor. bizarrely our place was a really great price considering the competition and area -very close to dulwich park and(large 3 storey house) no one seemed to want it! exploring horniman is on my to do list over the next few weeks.

good luck to you all. I really hope house prices don't rise too much so that people can afford to buy and still afford to eat at the restaurants, shops, bars & cafes etc that we all want in these areas.

rico said...

Is Brock Mania a Judge Dredd reference? If so, do I get a point?

Sarah said...

I was referring to Horniman Gardens, though I'm still ambivalent about the new improved Horniman.

This property talk is interesting. We couldn't give away our 2-bed flat off Queens Road six years ago

Brockley Nick said...

@Rico - yes it is. Well done.

Anonymous said...

i've lived in brockley 10 years now. each year i've ended up getting on the train in the morning further and further down the train. i now get on in the last carriage. wicked that you can get a cup of tea on the way down tho. my norf london colleagues think brockley is bromley, which is also wicked. whats the point of house prices going up if you dont want to leave the area?

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