East London Line definitely starts tomorrow

Yes, definitely.

The politicians have settled their differences to allow us all to start using our £1.5 billion tube train set, from tomorrow morning.

Until it opens properly on May 23rd, it's only a limited service between New Cross and Dalston, but it's a start.

Tory Troll says:

Boris Johnson will officially open the line at 9.45 tomorrow morning in Dalston Junction station.

Opposition leaders on the London Assembly have been invited, but are unlikely to attend due to
concerns that Boris will turn it into a campaign event.

Transport for London have denied this and insist that the Mayor's attendance will help publicise the line and increase their revenue.

Thanks to Andy for confirming the story.

37 comments:

Anonymous said...

Shame the representatives of the mung bean parties won't be showing up.

Brockley Nick said...

Erm, are all parties other than the Tories all "mung" now? Truly, the lame gag has lost all meaning.

Anonymous said...

great!

david said...

So does a "limited service between New Cross and Dalston" mean a limited service between New Cross Gate and Dalston as well or are the more westerly south east Londoners out in the cold until the official opening?

M said...

Those BNP types are very fond of a lentil bake.

Anonymous said...

@David

It means New Cross Gate as well. The services will be shared between the two stations until the southern extension opens when New Cross Gate will have 8 trains per hour and New Cross 4 trains per hour.

sevenoakser said...

TfL journey planner already has times up - last train from Shadwell to New Cross Gate is 8.07pm so definitely a very limited service.

Anonymous said...

Have they checked the doors open?

I've seen the trains pulling in and out of New Cross but the doors remained closed.

Anonymous said...

Are the new trains organic?

Anonymous said...

Is it wrong to be so massively excited about this? I am massively excited.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure a few brockley central posters will find numerous reasons for you to be wrong to massively excited about this!

Anonymous said...

has anyone taken it?

not being a banker, (great shame this!),I'm trying to make up a reason to go to Can Wharf on it...

Brockley Nick said...

Hasn't started yet!

Headhunter said...

Anon - You can use the new ELL to get to Billingsgate Market - fantastic fresh fish market although you tend to have to buy in bulk as it's more of a wholesale market, however if you're having a BBQ for a load of people who don't eat meat, it's a great place to load up on seafood, sardines etc and other stuff that you can stick on the BBQ. However to be honest, if you live in north Brockley, it's probably just as easy to get the DLR from Deptford Bridge...

Anonymous said...

Only in Brockley could you possibly expect to hear the phrase "if you're having a BBQ for a load of people who don't eat meat"...

Brockley Nick said...

Are we the only area of London with vegetarians in it?

Monkeyboy said...

And of course fish are not proper meat. Scaley bastards.

St Norbertite said...

And it's official - it's not a tube! Alas. Just looked up the Transport for London journey planner to look at the times it is running and it gives you the departure and arrival times next to a big British Rail zig-zaggy logo, not the tube circle and line symbol. Sigh.

Brockley Nick said...

Don't panic, it will be on the tube map. It's not run by LU (much to the union's annoyance), so it can't officially be called a tube.

Anonymous said...

so we got another train...

Anonymous said...

i thought it would be branded with the overground roundel??

Brockley Nick said...

Yes, it should be the overground roundel.

I imagine that the Journey Planner website has not been updated properly.

I note that the journey time from Wapping to Rotherhithe has been cut from 57 minutes to 2 minutes.

Monkeyboy said...

Email me if you have trouble using these weird new tubey/trainey things. I've prepared a power point presentation for the hard of thinking.

It is interesting that Ken, for all his enthusiasm for taking the tube back in house, set up the deal where it is operated by a franchise type thing - although with TfL retaining much more control unlike national rail.

Tommo said...

@St Norbertite and Nick

All London Overground journeys (not just the East London Line) are displayed on TfL's journey planner using a British Rail/Network Rail symbol.

This is partly for reasons of clarity (people would have difficulty distinguishing between orange and red on screen) but also due to the fact that London Overground routes are part of National Rail, albeit parts which are TfL franchises.

Anonymous said...

Short piece in Metro this morning that mentions the journey time from Brockley to Shoreditch High Street. I happened to be making exactly that journey at the time. Good to see Brockley's on Metro's map.

Brockley Nick said...

Ah, OK, thanks Tommo.

Danja said...

First trains at midday, I was told this morning.

Welcome back ELL, my commute will go down from an hour to 30 mins door to door.

For a short while, anyway, until I move somewhere nowhere near an ELL station. Sigh.

Anonymous said...

and how long is the journey betweeen Brockley and shoreditch??

Anonymous said...

16 minutes I think

Anonymous said...

Nine mins from Brockley to Canada Water! Wow!

However, it'll probably take that long agin to get onto a Jubilee line train to get one stop further to Canary Wharf!

Mb said...

God how I'd laugh if Lou's office moved to docklands.

Anonymous said...

Just got the ELL from nxg to shoreditch high street. It took 15 mins. A couple of early observations for what they're worth. The trains feel very spacious, wider than a tube train inside but with the unmistakable feel of a tube. Canada water felt ridiculously close, we'd barely got going and we were there. Shoreditch felt ridiculously close. This is now brockleys back yard. If i worked in in city i'd be rubbing my hands in glee. That is now one seriously easy commute. For the record the last time i got a bus from "ondon bridge to liverpool street it took 35 minutes because of the traffic. The other thing that struck me was how other Londoners will end up coming across the ELL because they'll not be able to ignore it. The station at shoreditch is huge, and in giant letters spell out shoreditch high street. I don't know of another station in london quite as well advertised. For those who want brockley to get noticed, i think it's a certainty. People with see the new stations, the roundels (that look like tube roundels), and they be accepted as part of the network. I was very impressed.
Paul.

Anonymous said...

Anyone do the whole ELL line just for geeky pleasure?

Anonymous said...

http://twitpic.com/1ivrn3

Node said...

I was on the first train to leave NXG today and I was impressed. Like the above post, the trains are very spacious and do not feel like four carriages. The colour scheme of orange and brown is a nice mix of retro and modern and not too garish.

The advertising inside is actually fairly muted compared to the normal tubes. The floor being a light grey picks up marks very easily and on my return was already looking fairly used, so it'll be interesting to see how this ages.

The train doesn't actually seem to go that fast, I guess doing 10 stops in 20 minutes means there's no real stretch to speed up. The change onto the Jubilee line at Canada Water is literally 30 seconds.

I've heard that from the 15th of May there will be a weekend service too. It does feel like a tube and not a train so even if it's not official people will still think of it as one, most people call it the East London Line still rather than the Overground, and hopefully the mixed branding might deter and confuse some from wanting to buy up half the area.

Shardeloes Cheyenne said...

Every moon, many new palefaces will come.

Tamsin said...

I'm sure quite a lot of people did for the geeky pleasure - as with the last day of the old line - just a pity that it was the middle of a busy workig week.

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