East London Line update

[UPDATE: THE BROCKLEY SERVICE DOESN'T START THIS WEEKEND - SORRY EVERYONE. THE DETAILS BELOW ARE FOR THE SERVICE TO NEW CROSS GATE]

With the full service only 9 days away, TfL have announced that trains will begin running to Brockley from this weekend. The service will not be the full timetable, which is still not due to come in to effect until May 23rd, but here's the juice:

The service will now operate through the coming weekend (15/16 May) and the following week at these times:
· Saturday 15th May: 07.00 – 20.00
· Sunday 16th May: 08.20 – 20.00
· Monday 17th May to Friday 21st May: 07.00 – 20.00
· Saturday 22nd May: 07.00 – 20.00

On Sunday 23 May, services will extend to West Croydon between 7am until around midnight. A full Metro-style service will then commence from Monday 24 May from 5.40am until approximately 12.15am with customers benefiting from a full turn up and go service of 12 trains per hour through the core section – Dalston Junction to New Cross Gate.


Thanks to b. and Andy for flagging this.

30 comments:

Anonymous said...

Sorry could you remind me how many ELL trains we'll be getting an hour? Ta.

Anonymous said...

PS Woo-hoo!!!

Anonymous said...

If you see a wide eyed slightly scary guy muttering to himself, that'll be lou.

Tommo said...

Are you sure about this?

As I understood it the service through Brockley begins 23rd May.

I was under the impression that the only change at present is that the section between New Cross/New Cross Gate and Dalston Junction is operational this weekend, whereas up to now it's been weekdays only.

Anonymous said...

Guess it's all part of the trial service, they tend not to publisise to widely in case it goes pete tong

Anonymous said...

Guess it's all part of the trial service, they tend not to publisise to widely in case it goes pete tong

Anonymous said...

12 tph which is apparently a disaster

Anonymous said...

Scratch that, may be less in our bit to west Croydon. Stil awful though..... If you're being obtuse

b. said...

Very nice to have this credited to me, but actually I'm not sure of the detail. Picked up the end of the story on BBC London news a couple days ago, but havent found any more info since.
So - hopefully im right (which is usually the case).
If so - see you all on it on saturday, sounds like a shoreditch day to me.

TM said...

Should be handy for Brick Lane and Colombia Road on Sundays.

Might try it this weekend. I always have the quandry of whether to head for New Cross or New Cross Gate to start out?

Brockley Nick said...

Tuttut you doubters - when has BC ever steered you wrong. The blurb in italics is from a TfL press release I received a few hours ago. It's a bit detailed for me to be making up, no?

b. said...

Jeez Nick - you're like a journo celeb, having Press Releases sent out to you. The rest of us have to rely on hearsay/bbc london and some twitter now and then.

And this blog of course... but thought that went without saying. apparently not.

Tommo said...

I only ask because the TfL press release in italics doesn't mention Brockley - merely that the service will be running at the weekend for the first time.

Anonymous said...

So Nick, any clues as to how many tph we're getting? I'm sure earlier blog posts have said, but my recall has failed me...

Brockley Nick said...

@Anon - 8 tph.

@Tommo - yes, definitely Brockley.

plcd1 said...

Sorry to disappoint but re-read the press release. It says that the current service - i.e. Dalston to NXG or New Cross - will run this weekend and on 22/5/10.

It is only on and after the 23/5/10 that trains run beyond NXG to West Croydon and Crystal Palace. There are not enough "slots" south of NXG on the current timetable to allow 8 trains per hour on top of the service that Southern currently runs.

When the line opens fully the service pattern (M-S peak and off peak) is

x15 mins Dalston - West Croydon
x15 mins Dalston - Crystal Palace
x15 mins Dalston - New Cross.

Therefore every 7-8 mins Sydenham northwards and every 5 mins north of Surrey Quays up to Dalston Junction.

This link

http://www.networkrail.co.uk/browse%20documents/eNRT/May10/timetables/Table178.pdf

takes you to the new timetable on the Network Rail site for post 23/5/10 services.

Brockley Nick said...

Argh! the shame! You are quite right, I apologise. Serves me right. Doubt away. I should read properly...

I blame b. myself... ;)

Dr No said...

premature ejaculation, you can get therapy for that

Anonymous said...

People commuting to Croydon are going to be spending a lot of time at grotty old west croydon station then.

Anonymous said...

If someone buys a ticket rather than travelcard will they be entitled to use any train that stops at the station?

Or will they have to wait for a train for which their ticket is valid Southern or London Overground?

Anonymous said...

Nope, I think an oyster card will work on both? A southern train ticket to LB or 'london terminals' only won't - I think

Tamsin said...

It's horribly complicated how they ineract. At a meeting with tfl in March they said it was something that still had to be sorted. Maybe they have by now but this is what a post on the Forest Hill Socity website says about it link
A bit like Tom Lehrer explaining the New Math - "are you still with me...?"

Tamsin said...

Sorry - seemed to set that up wrong. Try this link or just copy and paste this:

http://foresthillsociety.blogspot.com/search/label/trains

Anonymous said...

I think for most in the tfl oyster zones it's not an issue. There will be some quirks I expect.

Anonymous said...

I have a PAYGO but was interested to know what would happen if someone bought a ticket to say Sydenham.

Some ticket inspectors are uncompromising when issuing penalties and as for the appeals system that's a joke.

I see there is now an evening 'peak' which means the post 9.30am off-peak travelcard will be scrapped?

On Oyster card I didn't realise you get charged a 'platform fee' if the train is cancelled and you go by bus.

Anyone travelling via Lewisham Station...be aware the peak hour exit by platform 4 does seem to have an Oyster reader.

Tamsin said...

I haven't attempted to get my head around the detail - use the system so rarely - but from what I gather it does seem to be defaulting always in favour of the company rather than the customer even though it may well be the company's systems which are defective, e.g. broken card readers on the exit and no staff on duty to deal with the matter.

The caring, sharing face of privatisation. I can see that you do not want to set up a fare-dodgers' charter but that is dealt with by more inspectors and station staff, not fewer. These systems seem set to punish the law-abiding, the busy and the confused - the deliberately criminal will still work around them.

Tommo said...

@ Anon at 1029

The evening peak is for one-off Oyster pay as you go single fares only.

There is no evening peak for travelcards, only a morning peak which applies before 9.30am.

currentbuns said...

TfL fares will be in operation from May 23rd, however if you travel to London Terminals or East Croydon for example, you'll still pay the National Rail price.

Ed said...

I am already enjoying improved journey times to/from Canary Wharf so when the ELL finally goes to Brockley I may actually end up travelling back in time...

Monkeyboy said...

Used it last night after meeting Nick and Danja. Fellow brockleyites, I've seen the future and it's orange (with not many seats)

also heard the wickams landlord singing which, if I'm honest, was like hearing a cat trapped in a tumble drier.

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