Council to tackle Harefield / Breakspears junction
They've looked at the personal injury accident data and while the accident rate is not particularly high it has not significantly lowered since the introduction of the 20mph zone. We would have expected to see a reduction following the introduction of the zone.
The engineers would like to look at what improvements could be made to the junction. As a result the site has been added to our Small Traffic Schemes List for further investigation. The Small Traffic Schemes List contains requests for engineering measures from sites all over the borough from residents, ward members and MPs. Each year the schemes on the list are prioritised according to agreed criteria and as many taken forward from the top of the list as is possible with the funding available.
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I don't see how it's dangerous. Isn't there a round about there?
Although, I suppose if people actually knew how to approach and drive through RA's there wouldn't be a problem.
20mph zone? Do any of you notice that working? The driving round here is absurdly bad. Just shut the roads to traffic and let humans and ducks/geese etc cross the roads safely!
The junctions between Harefield / Brockley Rd and Cranfield / Brockley Rd are far worse, in my opinion.
There resurfacing Harefield Road between Brockley Road and Wickham Road.Also St Asaph Road.
Yeah, they've also done Tressilian recently. Makes my bike ride a lot nicer if I'm going that way.
I can't say I've ever had a particular problem with the Harefield/Breakspears crossing on foot - as long as the drivers actually use their indicators.
Yeah, some drivers seem to think they only have to use there indicators for other vehicles.
The problem is the speed with which drivers approach this junction. With the new road surface and the uninterrupted view down Harefield from Tressillian, vehicles are treating it like a racetrack - and not stopping at all at the roundabout. It's only a matter of time before someone is seriously injured or killed. At least at the Brockley Road end of Cranfield and Harefield the traffic has to stop!
I'd have thought the very broad junction between (lower) Harefield and Wickham was way worse. Espscially as all the parked cars make it impossible for pedestrians to see what's coming up the hill (Harefield) until they're in the middle of the road.
Don't find that junction scary at all - the terrifying one is Brockley Road and Harefield Road.
You need eyes in the back of your head when crossing over at any part there.
As a cyclist, I think the crossing over Tressillian from Harefield heading over to Tressillian Crescent is the worst; cars park so close to the junction you really can't see what's coming down the hill.
Whilst we're at it, turning right out of Tyrwhitt Road onto Hilly Fields Crescent is dangerous! There should be a mirror on the opposite side of the road as it's impossible to see what's coming round the bend.
And finally, when is Tyrwhitt going to get the same resurfacing treatment as all the other surrounding roads? It's an absolute disgrace, especially for cyclists.
I mean Crescent Way, not Tressillian Crescent.
Love the new road surfaces. Definite improvement but as forthe 20mph limit making a difference to accident rates - how? I cycle around those roads at and around the 20mph mark and motorists are usually going faster than me as they accelerate hard between road humps before braking sharply again. There's absoluetly zero enforcement of the new 20mph limits and I think most drivers just ignore them
Admittedly I very rarely drive in Brockley, but I had no idea there was a 20mph limit there.
ALL residential roads in Lewisham have ben 20mph limit by default for a year or 2 now... Many people don't seem to know this though and there is no enforcement, so essentially nothing has changed.
Sigh. I have pointed out to the council that nobody seems to be aware that we live in a 20mph zone on several occasions and always get the same glib response - basically, they are abiding by the rules by marking these zones at the entry and exit points (and yes, the signs ARE there, you just don't notice them!) and are under no obligation to put up any extra signs (ugly road furniture etc).
I have also pointed out the dangers of the tyrwhitt/hilly fields cresent junction and suggested a crossing or a mirror at the very least, especially since there is an entrance to the park there. Of course, these things go in order of priority based on the number of accidents, and the long and short of it is that there haven't been enough accidents there to justify spending money on it.
Tyrwhitt road was definitely high on the resurfacing list. I think it was supposed to be soon after brookbank, which was done a few weeks ago.
That should be fun,I dont know were everyone is going to park when they resurface Tyrwhitt.
The Harefield/Breakspears junction is pretty dangerous. I have been in an accident there in the past and I have seen at least two other. I believe there was a bad accident there a couple of weeks ago.
The reasons are pretty much the same: speed and not giving way at the mini roundabout. People blithely sail across the junction doing a lot more than 20mph.
The same happens at the Wickam Rd/Goeffrey Rd mini roundabout.
People who live around there are treated to the regular distressing crunch and vehicles crashing into each other, lamposts, walls and post boxes.
I suspect, for one reason or another, the figure reported in the official statistics is far less than the actual number of accidents.
I have noticed that Lewisham seems to fairly tolerant of speeding motorists (Brockley Road, especially) and has little appetite for traffic calming measures at dangerous junctions. Though they seem quite zealous about collecting parking revenue.
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