Parking again - with a twist!

George: I can't park in a garage.
Elaine: Why?
George: I don't know, I just can't. Nobody in my family can pay for parking, it's a sickness. My father never paid for parking; my mother, my brother, nobody. We can't do it.
Elaine: I'll pay for it.
George: You don't understand. A garage. I can't even pull in there. It's like going to a prostitute. Why should I pay, when if I apply myself, maybe I could get it for free?
- Seinfeld

A BC reader who's been among those calling for more ruthless parking controls in the area, has experienced some rough justice. "Upper Toff" writes:

Having recently blogged on the issue of illegal parking at the cross and other streets and requesting the need for a 2 hour CPZ in streets close to the station (allowing residents to be excluded!!! and preventing daily commutors from parking), I am amazed/ outraged that yesterday having parked on UBR - I recieved a ticket!

There is a faint double yellow line - why it is there I haven't a clue... it has not been painted recently and is not obvious! You would assume that traffic wardens are present to uphold traffic laws... has anyone seen them around targetting poorly parked cars in areas where traffic flow is adversely affected? Or are the wardens hell bent on targetting cars in a quiet residential street where a yellow double line is hardly noticeable?

I will of course appeal the ticket issued... I parked late at night and had no idea that this space is a "no parking zone". Plenty of cars are parked in this spot time and time again, there is no logic as to why a ticket has been given (apart from faint yellow lines !), this spot doesn't impede upon anyones safety.

The corner of UBR and the one way for example, usually has a vehicle parked blocking view at the junction - why is there not a double yellow here?

If the council are committed to enforcing traffic laws perhaps they should focus on drawing up double yellow lines at key junctions where parked cars obstruct vision for all! Any chance you could raise this issue- still fuming about my ticket!

25 comments:

Highway Code said...

Let's have a bet for fun. You will lose your appeal.

Mb said...

Oh I don't know, if you can bothered to appeal on the basis of the makings not being to standard you may be surprised. Take a picture.

Headhunter said...

A couple of years ago they issued tickets to people parking 2 abreast on Manor Ave. Doesn't affect me coz I haven't got a car but I thought that was a bit of a shame, it effectively helps solve the lack of parking on the street and at the same time calms traffic perpetually rat running there to avoid the parallel stretch of Wickham and Shardeloes/Malpas.

I wondered at the time why they weren't addressing the awful parking around the station and Brockley X....

Highway code said...

Ok so we have 1 win, 1 lose any other takers?

Tim said...

So let me get this straight. You parked on a double yellow, broke the rules, got fined. And now you're appealing?

Karma said...

i think the expression is "you reap what you sew"...

Brockley Jon said...

They were always pretty tough on UBR. I speak from the voice of experience.

*slaps wrist*

Still, helped me persuade myself I didn't need a car, and haven't looked back since!

Anonymous said...

"there is no logic as to why a ticket has been given (apart from faint yellow lines !)"

Okaaaaay.

I'm sorry Doctor, there is just no logic as to why my thumb hurts - apart from do I recall smashing it with a hammer just before I left the house.

Anonymous said...

In my country, double yellow lines denote a no parking zone - however faintly they have been applied.

PeterB said...

Tickets are only valid if the markings comply with the law, legible, continuous (ie no gaps) and correctly marked end bars. You have to obey the law but so does the council. Google is you friend to find precise details of the road marking regulations. If the markings are very faint or incomplete you should win.

Good Luck

GreenCrossCode said...

The Lewisham end of UBR they park on the pavement so you have to walk in the road to pass them,Ive never seen any of those cars with a ticket.

Smartarse said...

In my country double yellow lines denote no parking if they comply to the legislative guidelines. May be a technicality but there's no nead for ambiguity.

Anonymous said...

Brockley X is a massive mess and needs a Councellor to get stuck-in and clean the place up. All we hear is talk and endless rubbish about 'consultation' - just get on with it and sort out that messy dump!

Lep Recorn said...

I noticed a motor parked outside Brockley station on Coulgate station with a parking ticket on it.

I was so surprised |I almost took a photo of it.

Aricana said...

Good luck Upper Toff. Those lines are indeed very faint indeed.

uppertoff said...

@Mb cheers...its a worth a try... pics taken off the markings...

@PeterB thanks for that!! Technicality here is quite the issue- there should not be "breaks" between lines...its obvious where lines were re painted along side a tiny stretch of a bike lane!!! Ooops they missed a bit though.
@ annonymous...hence my reference to faded yellow lines. I'd be the first to say Mea culpa...but not in this instance.
@ thanks Aricana - you've obviously seen what i mean.


Ladies and gents...place your bets!!!

uppertoff said...

yes yes excuse a few sp errors peeps
@ Brockley Jon...out of interest ...I didn't realise this...perhaps I haven't (broken the law as some would suggest) over the past 6 years! Have been biten on the arse now!
Oh well...we'll see...perhaps the nightmare of the x can be looked at with more vigour too

Blunderbuss said...

Okay let me get this straight. You want stricter controls on parking in the area, but you parked on a double yellow line and got a ticket, and now you're complaining because you don't think it's fair. Are you serious?

Just because you think the double yellows shouldn't be there isn't a sufficient cause for complaint!

I got a ticket on UBR from a community support officer for straying into the pointless cycle lane by about a foot. Totally ridiculous of course but within the law.

Welcome to the world of parking enforcement, and yet you still want a CPZ, crazy...

Anonymous said...

If a no parking area is poorly marked then it's not legal to issue a ticket, stop me if that confuses you.

bumbags said...

I've often arrived home late at night, and found no spaces at all at the Cross end on UBR. This end bit by the cycle lane is sometimes the only bit available. Those lines are to protect the entrance to the cycle lane, which it is awkward to get to if someone parks really close (I do use it). However the yellows do go beyond where they're needed, and the paintwork is bad. I think you'd win an appeal on them not being visible at night when you parked.

uppertoff said...

@ blunderbuss.... its late but just to say!!!
Yes I want a CPZ...many do!
but lets get this straight...
A CPZ should still be introduced to free up parking around the station and nearby streets, close to Brock st', UBR, Manor Ave etc...
Why do commutors drive in from zone 3 or 4 and park here???! Locals can't park close to home!!!

I don't drive that much but it is an issue for many.

Double yellow lines i.e "no parking" zones are where one will usually find "bright" yellow lines "visble" and "clear" to all (including the un trained eye)!
I parked on the end of this recently painted "visible and clear" stretch... the faded bit in other words!

So yes!!! this may appear to be a contradiction in terms...but if this is a "non parking zone" why couldn't the whole stretch look like a "no park" zone.
Happy to pay a fee if I have to, happy to admit to a mistake but surley we should make LINES clearer for road users?

This relies on attention to detail. The council should and usually does make it clear "NOT" to park. Not in this instance.
Thanks for your comment though!

uppertoff said...

@ bumbags thank you!
Yes always aware that cycling lanes are free to access... but hey! it is the faded poorly painted stretch on UBr that is at stake! Glad you noticed!

patrick1971 said...

Yet more proof, as if any were needed, that cars send people crazy. Judge Judy would throw this appeal out in about 2 secs.

Free yourselves, and everybody else, from your metal wagons of selfishness, urban blight and death, people! It really is a peaceful new world.

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Anonymous said...

Forced against the wall and called a c*nt for taking a photo of the Duke's Mercedes parked on the kerb/zigzags at the roundabout. Paul Simon was good though.

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