Tea Leaf Arts lives on in the South London Art Map

The South London Art Map launches tonight, with 90 galleries throughout south London staying open late (6.30pm- 8pm). Among them will be local venues including cueB at Brockley Mess, Lewisham Arthouse and Tea Leaf Arts, which has relocated from The Tea Factory to a new home at 110 Endwell Road after its rent free period ran out.

Tonight's event is the first SLAM Friday - late night openings on the last Friday of every month.

The map considers Brockley and Ladywell part of Greater Deptford and also includes Tank Gallery.

26 comments:

Tamsin said...

Am I missing something - is there any way to get in touch with them other than by Facebook or Twitter, or by post? Great to be avant garde with social networking tools but not all of us have got there yet. Looks like we might have to write a letter!

Michael said...

Has Tea Leaf moved into the the unit on Endwell that's been up for sale for ages? The one with lots of black wood? If they have, what's their deal there?

Ed CPZ said...

No they're in what I think is 108, the part of TTF where the cafe with cctv pram park was going to go...

I had high hopes for a gallery on the ground floor of my building but was sorely dissappointed by the lack of engagement. They held regular meetings that looked unwelcoming, parked on the pavement and told others not to and were generally patronising and iritating; one man was particularly unpleasant.

If they got booted from the free s106 unit I wonder how they plan to fare better on the corner. Nick, perhaps you could provide some pro bono PR advice.

Clive said...

Yes they have literally moved one shop down.. do they think it will make any difference. There is no footfall there at all (i live on Endwell Road) and am probably one of the few people that walk past. I have never seen anyone in the last shop so don't know what they expect to achieve PLUS they never advertised the Brockley Open Studios in July. So perhaps selective artists? Just can't see how any of the shop units in Endwell and Mantle can make any money.. people have to know you are there, they will not discover by choice surely?

Anonymous said...

For the record, Tea Leaf Arts can be contacted at info@tealeafarts.com.
The 'unpleasant' member of Tea Leaf Arts is no longer a member. Ed CPZ, as you know the s106 which lasted for a two year period,has expired. This means that when the two years were up, we had to vacate. A bit different from being 'booted out' don't you think?
Clive, we did want to participate with the Brockley Open Studios, but they have specific requirements, one being that you must be a 'studio'.
Ed CPZ, it is a shame that you have obviously missed out on such wonderful events on your doorstep, including continuously curated art exhibitions, poetry events, cabaret nights, creative workshops, interactive art happenings and cultural discussions/film shows. Ed CPZ,you really should get out more.

Ed CPZ said...

@Anon 10:41 - If you are making a statement on behalf of an organisation you should probably choose a name and I refer you to my earlier comment, particularly the phrase 'generally patronising and iritating'...

It really isn't very good sense to tell your neighbours they have missed out on all your great stuff and they should get out more!

For the record some of the window displays were great.

Bored and tired said...

They should have thought about how their website/email address would look before they named themselves tealeafarts. That just made me laugh.

Anonymous said...

If you recall, the name was chosen by democratic poll, posted on this site. Glad it made you laugh, we had a good chuckle too.

Ed CPZ, I decided to remain anonymous as thought it didn't really make any difference. To me, Ed CPZ, you too are anonymous.

Glad you enjoyed some of the window displays.

Interested & energetic said...

@b&t.... Kind of tells us more about you than it does about them.

Ed CPZ said...

'Your tone is antogonistic and you're making me very angry.'

The tealy farts point was well made at the time of the poll, which incidentally was neither democratic nor determinative (I dont think it should have been but you shouldn't claim otherwise, even anonymously).

!

Telling you straight said...

Jeez, Ed you seem to be a person full scale barney within a paper. Give it a rest will ya.

Tamsin said...

Worryingly Tea Leaf don't seem to have done anything about getting into the Telegraph Hill Festival Open Studios again this year - unless what I've got is an out of date list.

If anyone from Tea Leaf is reading this and you do want to open up for one day or two one 2nd and 3rd April from 2 to 6 and be listed in the Festival programme (going out from next Friday so it is extremely urgent you confirm) post here saying if you want the description as before "artists' collective - mixed media" and whether it is one day (if so which) or two - and I will urgently contact the designer who is working on the layout even now.

Ed CPZ said...

@TYS - Thanks and keep trying, you'll get there in the end.

anonymous anonymous what does it matter? said...

hm - if you are that angry over some minor comments I agree that perhaps you should get out more!
:)

Ed CPZ said...

@TeaLeafArtTroll - 'Your tone is antagonistic and you're making me very angry.' - It's a Morris/Coogan quote. Get out more again; how quaint.

I notice the new location has the same tatty old banner attached with cable ties in place of proper signage. I imagine this in breach of covenant and certainly looks makeshift and unprofessional.

Local Mum said...

I agree with Ed CPZ.

I found and find Tea Leaf Arts very unwelcoming and exclusive. I've never heard of any film nights, or other such events.

It's supposed to be a community organisation, but I don't see much diversity amongst the people often in there.

Michael said...

In what way don't you find them welcoming? I'd be interested to hear how many times you've all been in there. I've dropped in a few times and always found the person in there to be very friendly.

Just because Tea Leaf is a community project doesn't mean that everyone locally has to get a leaflet through their door detailing what's happening in there twice a month. As members of the local community you can actually decide to use our legs and walk round to the place. Instead of looking in from the outside and deciding that the people who run it aren't going to be nice to you.

Tamsin said...

For a start they were shut this afternoon, despite having relaunched on Friday, and no indication on the door of a number to ring or when they might be open.

As indicated in the earlier post - it might be nice for them to be involved in the Festival Open Studios (we don't have the same restrictions, nor do we charge so much to participate as the Brockley ones do) but we can't get hold of them to issue the invitation.

Ed CPZ said...

Perhaps rather than developing a siege mentality it would be better to acknowledge honest opinion and facts and look at engaging with people better...

Anonymous said...

Begs the question .. how many people actually know Tea Leaf Arts exists? Very few people actually need to use that stretch of pavement across the railway bridge so i doubt that 95% of Brockley people even know there are shops there? I wonder also how many people walk anywhere in Brockley either..certainly if you are driving past you are thinking about whether someone will cut you up at the ridiculous roundabouts!

just sayin said...

That's not 'begging the question'

Osh said...

I've no experience of anyone from the gallery directly, but I do think it would be sensible for the person posting and representing the gallery to say who they are. Posting anonymously doesn't create the right impression.

Anonymous said...

In total agreement with everything Michael has said.

Tamsin - have you emailed them?

@EDCPZ crikey uppity! are you aware that you come off looking worse as well as petty? And as for the coogan quote - that hardly put Morris and Coogan on the comedy map and taken out of context is pretty worthless and humourless.

Good luck to tea leaf. Perhaps there is food for thought here with regards to awareness in the community and keeping people onside.

Tamsin said...

Yes, both addresses and with a red exclamation mark on it.

Still - they have about 12 hours left to get in touch.

Ed CPZ said...

Anon 9.18. How I look is utterly subjective and I know many people agree with me on TLA.

I'm generally not in the habit of responding to anonymous posts and in my view anyone associated with TLA should identify themselves properly. Nick?

What does whether the quote put Morris or Coogan on the map have to do with anything? I think the context is obvious. TLA, or perhaps its past member (we'd love to know more about this member leaving and the circumstances) antagonised me to the extent that his behaviour almost constituted assault.

There are some on here who would probably recognise the quote and know that my posting it was an attempt at light hearted humour; I don't care that you felt this was 'pretty worthless and humourless'.

Thank you for making this about me though; that is what we all want rather than discussing the issues.

You should accept that TLA have alienated people (or are posters lying) and do something about it. It really is rather straightforward.

Tamsin said...

Without naming names which would be totally inappropriate on this site and get the post deleted I am wondering how we know the "unpleasant" member has left. Different posters could be thinking of different people and have different views about how pleasant or not they may be.

I have had dealings with one of the members of the Tea Leaf collective who I know was thinking of leaving - not sure whether they've done so yet - who was totally pleasant. How many have left/are leaving?

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