Dangerous temporary traffic lights on Brockley Road




Traffic lights were invented to do good, not evil - to help mankind, not to destroy it...

"Upper Brockley Road Resident" writes:

I took this picture attached yesterday morning to send to the council to flag up how dangerous this crossing has become since the road works started. Placing these temporary lights in front of the crossing has made what can already be a difficult crossing positively hair-raising. There is no signage to confirm that the zebra crossing is still in use and drivers are now running straight through it coming into the roundabout—both when the temporary traffic lights are in use and at night when they're off.

I think just their presence makes drivers think they signal changed traffic conditions. This seems to me an extremely unsafe situation that will hopefully dealt with as soon as possible...

28 comments:

Anonymous said...

This is a good observation, one that over the past week I’ve been grumbling about to myself. Presumably locating a speed hump for traffic between the bridge and the crossing is also too much to ask. Simply thoughtless and careless.

drakefell debaser said...

3 of us were almost mowed down on Friday night whilst crossing here by a lady who, we hope, got confused between the brake and accelerator pedal.

I find the only safe place to cross Brockley Rd now is the traffic light by the Barge.

Anonymous said...

Since the roadworks started I have almost been run over three times on this crossing as drivers are focussing on the signs/traffic lights/cones etc ahead of them and not the crossing. It is always a dangerous crossing but at the moment I think it is even worse.

Anonymous said...

I prefer to use this approach when dealing with Brockley mung bean eaters on their bikes:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-12604639

Ed CPZ said...

I'm really worried that this project will end with no significant improvements in pedestrian access and safety and we will not get any more money for BX for another few decades.

Drivers always did drive straight through and stop on the zebra but it does seem worse. I estimate that I see something dangerous on that crossing more often than not when I pass/use it.

The other day a car stopped ON the zebra, its occupants struck up conversation with someone outside the barbershop until the drivers waiting behind started hooting.

It's now well known that traffic laws aren't enforced at BX and that is why you get such poor behaviour, including parking on pavement protected by zigzags for the zebra and with no permitted access drop - The BMW outside the barbershop.

Having lived in NY and seen how civilised it is in the main I am coming round to a zero tolerance approach to illegal and antisocial behaviour.

DJ said...

LOL!!! People being hurt! Brilliant!

Grow up you prick.

Ed CPZ said...

I think the chap in the barbershop knows he should not be parking his BMW there as he has installed a little cctv camera on the corner of the barbershop (you can see it on the pic), presumably to alert him to approaching traffic wardens. There's a joke!

Anonymous said...

I read somewhere that he can park there legally? is that the case? weird if so but if not It's an utterly uncontroversial and easy thing to ticket him into submission.

Ed CPZ said...

Probably a post of mine. I asked a warden (yes they have been to BX before) to ticket him and he said he wouldn't as it was private property. Even if a section of the pavement is indeed privatelt held land I doubt that it extends out into the main paved run (his car pokes out) nor that there is a right of way (the kerb is not lowered and there are ZIGZAGs i.e. no stopping)...

Ed CPZ said...

If you don't think it's important/relevant imagine the signal it ends to other drivers - there is no parking control in BX...

david.s said...

anonymous 12.50:
will that comment still be funny to you when someone gets hurt or killed, as seems very likely?
Brockley Road, Brockley Cross, Endwell Road... they're all pretty lethal to cross in most places and I know that lives have already been lost over the years.

TimPlannerak said...

It's actually an offence under the Highways Act 1980 for a vehicle to overhang the footway - I think we need to get onto the Council about that too.

Ed said...

Agreed Tim; we need more planneraks! I'd be very interested to hear planners' views on the number and state of advertising sites at BX as well...

Anonymous said...

Seems Brockley is a lawless parking zone.

Anonymous said...

Seems some people need to develop more engaging hobbies than walking around the conservation zone with a notepad and pen.

Ed CPZ said...

or criticising others needlessly on blogs...?

Oh and it's a conservation 'area' and I believe that most of BX, which we are discussing here, is not in the 'zone'. I will hesitate from pointing out the changes you clearly need to make to your life Anon 14:36. I'm often amazed at how many people think it is acceptable to tell others how to live their lives on here.

I see it all everyday walking to and from the station and I use my eyes and brain rather than notepad and pen!

tracy said...

At 6 30 this morning although some traffic had stopped at the Zebra there was a white van in the middle lane coming from under the bridge at about 50 and I got beeped by one of the cars that had stopped as I was obviously impeding their journey by not throwing myself promptly into the path of oncoming, not stopping speeding vehicle. Like Joanna Lumley I blame small children and toddlers.

GreenCrossMan said...

I cant believe they have put those temporary lights right next to the crossing,has this been approved or some young Conway's Gopher just stuck them there.

Ed CPZ said...

I also noticed we will get a water feature as, due to the relief, water collects in the southernmost roundabout.

Anonymous said...

when I passed by earlier this afternoon- the lights were off and the board had been moved aside

Aquaman said...

To add to the water feature on the station side of the footbridge. Another Conway balls up.

Incredulous said...

Saw a car in the last few days parked, with hazards on, right in front of the temporary traffic light outside the bagel shop at the bottom of Geoffrey Rd. Due to the narrowing of the road there at the moment due to the works, this car was effectively both causing an obstruction and rendering itself vulnerable to collision. As I drove past I noticed that asleep on the passenger seat was a small child. No car seat, no adult in the car, parked pretty much in the middle of a busy junction.

I have seen similar before but that was the worst of the lot.

KennyTinsel said...

The roadworks on Mantle Road last week were a shambles. No traffic management at all - conflicting completely with the building works at Jude Court - no footpath on either side of the road, a very narrow gap of road for pedestrians and cars to navigate. Spent hours trying to alert someone at Lewisham Highways, HSE or Conway (with photos) and none of them gave a flying monkeys.

Lep Recorn said...

Cycling home the other evening I passed some Conway JCB transporters near East Street.

The cab had something like 'Nice people, good work' as a slogan above the cab.

Anonymous said...

I've nearly been rundown a couple of times in last week.

However, re parking control I would be careful what u wish for - completely agree that existing laws need to be enforced, but I'm pretty sure Lewisham would outsource this and pay for it by making us all pay for residential permits....

Ed CPZ said...

I think most Brockley residents have nearly been (or have been) run down on that crossing at some point. It is genuinely the most dnagerous crossing I know of.

I'm happy to pay as my name suggests.

Mb said...

Exactly, perhaps if lewisham enforced parking regulations and were prepared to compel van hire companies to comply with the terms of their planning permission, there would be no debate about CPZs

Anonymous said...

Who's going to volunteer to get killed so they do something.

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