Sainsbury's rules out Jude Court

While Brockley Central doesn't like to say that we are always right about everything, our prediction that the new retail units on Mantle Road would not be taken up by a supermarket seems to be suitably prescient. Lorry deliveries can't get there easily.


Reader Peter has been much better than we have been at chasing Sainsbury's for an update on their plans to locate in Brockley. They confirm that while they are still looking at the area, they will not be moving in to Jude Court.


In an email, they confirm:


While Sainsbury’s are interested in opening a store in Brockley and we are looking at a couple of potential locations, we have not signed up for anything at this time. Unfortunately Jude Court would not work for us as we are not able to deliver to this property due to the low railway bridge to the north.

42 comments:

Tim said...

That's a shame. A Sainsbury's would have been a welcome addition to the limited array of shopping options in the area.

Nylon Cube said...

Was there any indication from Sainsbury's as to whether, if they did open a new store, their door would open wildly inwards endangering customers as they left the shop?

Brockley Nick said...

Their silence on that matter is damning.

ouch! said...

"can't get their easily"

Too many new threads today, Nick?

Brockley Nick said...

never happened. ;)

Anonymous said...

good. don't need 'em.

Lou Baker said...

We need a decent local supermarket. And while I'd prefer Waitrose or M&S Food I suspect Brockley as a whole is more at the Tesco level.

Perhaps even Sainsburys is a bit too classy for SE4.

Anonymous said...

Going off topic slightly, I'm not a huge fan of the M&S Simply Food stores as I find the majority of the products are of the 'Ready Meal' variety. I don't really want to pay £4 for a tiny cottage pie, when I can make a huge one for around a fiver with ingredients from a Tesco Metro or a Sainsbury's local store.

a bridge too low said...

Yes, Lou, but, Tesco, Waitrose et al still need to deliver their stock by lorry don't they...

Anonymous said...

I wonder where they're looking at. When they say Brockley I don't think they can mean anywhere near Brockley station. I can't picture anywhere that would be big enough to take a Sainsburys.

Anonymous said...

hearing rumours now about a florist next to hair bohemia and clarkeys.

Anonymous said...

More Supermarkets mean little shops closing.

Node said...

Sainsbury's or indeed any supermarket was obvs not going to happen there.

Regardless of the low bridge, (only takes a few minutes to drive around from the other way), it's probs more to do with footfall etc...

Plus half the corner shops westside would've probs closed...

Paddyom said...

Wish someone would bulldoze the Royal Mail sorting office on Brcokley Road and whack up a nice new Waitrose store... or even a Sainsburys Local would do fine. Its an eyesore.

Lou Baker said...

@a bridge

Yes, I know. But there are other sites. Maybe we could knock down one of the churches? They're largely a waste of space.

Tyrwhitt Michael said...

I'm happy with the sorting office where it is.

I have no desire to trudge down to Catford to pick up any undelivered mail.

Anonymous said...

why do we need a supermarket when we have a handful of local convenience stores, costcutter, nisa, broca foods and degustation deli?

Paddyom said...

Anon 15:54 - Because despite the plethora of corner shops, it can still be hard to find a fresh banana in Brockley... basic items are regularly not available here which in this day and age is bonkers. Plenty of non-perishable crisps and Coke though in the small corner shops...

Anonymous said...

Because all those shops are expensive and/or pretentious.

Anonymous said...

I believe the sorting office on Bromley Rd has closed,now use the one in Lewisham round by Morley piano's Engate St.

Anonymous said...

you won't find a fresh banana at sainsbury's either - they're never ripe. give me a broca nana anyday.

Ed CPZ said...

Churchs are an inefficient use of land in my view but I don't think you'll get much traction there Lou.

I imagine the MOT place at the back of Coulgate Street might be an interesting redevelopment prospect for a supermarket but even that is probably too small...

Tommo said...

Places like Sainsburys local and Tesco Express tend to move into empty units which aren't difficult to convert and fit out. Constructing a shop from scratch on the site of the MOT place wouldn't fit their business model.

Monkeyboy said...

Degustation sells nice stuff that you can't necessarily get in sainsburys, especially a local one. I'm not massively offended by a supermarket corner store though, I don't buy the argument that customers owe shopkeepers a living. Costcutters is just another chain, as is londis.

Not sure why anyone thinks degustation is pretentious, it lays out food. You either buy it or you don't.

Brockley Nick said...

Some people think anything that's not a packet of fags, wrapped in a scratch card, wrapped in a kebab and soaked in Special Brew and offered to you with an accompanying kick in the nuts is pretentious.

There is no point trying to convince them otherwise.

Anonymous said...

realistically where would be viable for a Sainsburys in Brockley?

Robert said...

Mb. To be fair, Costcutter and Londis are franchises - not really a chain. The two in our area are family run businesses, and the Costcutter in particular is run very well in my opinion.

Anonymous said...

I wish someone would take over the Co-Op - that place is a disaster zone. Cluttered, poorly stocked & disorganised.

Brockley Nick said...

Yes, it's rubbish isn't it.

I thought Co-Op had sorted its act out generally, but the CP one reminds me of the one I used at college in the late 90s, that had still not introduced bar code scanners.

Anonymous said...

Are the plans fixed for the other site by the station for new housing? The sign says Wardle Homes are developing it. Might be possible for a Sainsburys-Local or M&S Food to fit on the ground floor of that?

Would be a shame for Broca to have the competition right opposite though.

Anonymous said...

Just checked the plans and see there's no room for a Sainsburys at the Wandle Homes site

CPZ said...

while waiting for Sainsbury or Waitrose, CAN WE AT LEAST PUSH FOR the Car Park Zone???

I think the MOT is going soon, the problem is that is going to be replaced by another Council tower block.

Anonymous said...

Martins Yard for a Sainsburys anyone?

Be careful what you wish for said...

FFS Stop banging on about the CPZ! I bet it's the same bunch of nimbys that want this that got Coulgate pedestrianised

Cpz? Maybe said...

It's not been pedestrianised. Perhaps the people who want a CPZ want to park in "their back yard" without it being blocked by people dumping their car at the station, using the road as their van depot or buying a pint of milk?

Complex isn't it?

Ed CPZ said...

Hi CPZ! I'm Ed CPZ!

Waiting for someone on Coulgate Street on Saturday morning I saw:

A car race from the main road into Coulgate street braking hard to avoid a pram.
The barber parker reversing over the ZEBRA crossing over the ZIGZAGS onto the pavement.
double parking at the only point wide enough to do so, causing a jam.
A minor collision.
Several drivers park up and get on the train.
White van parked onto of the give way lines and others parked so close there was no crossing point on that side for several vans lengths.

If you think Coulgate Street is safe and the situation acceptable you are just plain wrong. In the interests of fairness and safety we need CPZ and part pedestrianisation. The lack of road markings and attention from warden have made Coulgate street largely lawless. The further from the station you live/work the less important your opinion, genuine locals are more important stakeholders here I am afraid.

I think I might try my first public service movie this weekend, the smell of bacon from the doorstep should be enough to get me started.

Boy Racer said...

@CPZ

Live on Coulgate St do you?

Anonymous said...

The MOT centre is going to be another council block.

What fresh bollocks are you spouting?

CPZ said...

Hi to you Ed CPZ!

To anon:
The car parking is not only an issue on Coulgate.all roads around the station are affected. Beside commuters in the morning, builder have started to park their vans in the evening before shooting off home via ELL. No respect anymore for driveways and yellow lines to the amusement of local residents.

Re: MOT future and Council block wait and see.

Anonymous said...

Jude court will be a Nisa supermkt

cynic said...

Really? There is one already next to the Broca Food Market just around the corner.

Not even Tesco go for that amount of saturation.

Anonymous said...

That's according to L&Q

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