Elephant & Castle shopping centre to avoid demolition

Plans for the regeneration of the Elephant & Castle, gateway to the south, appear to be unraveling, with the owners of the shopping centre reportedly considering abandoning plans to demolish it.

Despite installing the world's most elaborate roundabout crossing scheme to make the area more pedestrian friendly, plans to make significant changes to the road layout have been scrapped, while new height limits introduced by the Mayor have caused problems for the cluster of tall buildings and related open spaces envisaged by the original master plan.

Despite these setbacks, it appears that Oakmayne Plaza, a mixed use scheme that includes a Bermondsey Square-esque development, including a cinema, hotel and public square, is finally getting underway, having lain as a sad pile of masonry on the New Kent Road for many years.

20 comments:

Anonymous said...

Oh dear. It will be a great shame if the plans don't go ahead.

Apples said...

The Elephant and Castle shopping centre is great as it is. Architecturally it has a vast amount of history; but more importantly plans to regenerate will just further cleanse central London (and E&C is the geographical centre) of affordable housing, meaning that the people who actually keep this city running have to live further and further out.

Headhunter said...

I don't know much about E&C and couldn't comment on cleansing of affordable housing but the area doesn't have history! It was essentially razed to the ground by WW2 bombing and anything that survived was levelled by 1960s utopian architects with their concrete and asbestos....

max said...

Apples, why would you want anyone to live at E&C? Because they're poor?

It just is one of the ugliest places on earth.
The sad shopping centre, the overwhelming roundabout, the superdodgy underpass, everything is outstandingly awful.

If it was a joke, a modern art installation or an experiment of some kind if could be called interesting, as a proper place it's basically a permanent offence against whoever has the misfortune of having to pass through it.
It not even defensible for being tranquil or made to human measure, because it's neither.

patrick1971 said...

A friend of mine used to work at the University of the Arts at E&C, and he said that the toilets at the shopping centre were noteworthy for being the only part of the centre that didn't smell of wee.

@Apples: "affordable housing" is something of a misnomer. Someone can afford it or it wouldn't sell.

Tamsin said...

But not affordable by the nurses, hospital porters, street-cleaners, water company engineers, sewer inspectors, super-market delivery lorry drivers etc. - the C Ark passengers who need to get to work even it transport breaks down in order to keep London ticking over.

mb said...

Max, Your comment is a bit ambiguous. Are you saying you're not a fan? ;-)

max said...

I thought I had to pay tribute to the nuanced appeal of Elephant and Castle and all that's good that stems from it.

Lou Baker said...

@tamsin

If said people can not afford to live in central London they can live in the suburbs and commute. It's not hard.

My mother, a nurse, couldn't afford to live in central London when I was a kid. So she travelled in everyday from the suburbs. She didn't think of claiming this, that and whatever other benefit it is that the pinkos dish out nowadays.

I commute, plenty of others commute too. If the porter or the nurse or the blah blah blah you complain about can't afford to live where they work then they can live somewhere else or work somewhere else. It really is as easy as that. Or it should be. As always the corduroy brigade want to try to make this all unnecessarily hard.

Tamsin said...

But a bit of a b*gger for us all when public transport screws up and they can't get in from their outer suburb ghettos even with their hyper-expensive season tickets to keep things working.

I was mainly, though, picking up on Patrick's implication that "affordable" is an irrelevant description in housing planning parlance because anything sold is affordable by someone. "Affordable" in this context surely has to mean within the budget of those on average incomes and below.

Anonymous said...

The loaves in Brockley's artisan food shops aren't affordable

Headhunter said...

I think you're mixing up "affordable" with (in your view) not worth the money. I find a pack of B&H at, what is it these days? £5+? not "affordable" (actually not worth the money). A tasty loaf of bread from an "artisan" shop at £2-3 is definitely affordable and occasionally I actually (gasp) buy them!

drakefell debaser said...

Must be closer to £6 I reckon. Either way, 20 a day is over £2000 a year spent on noxious gasses and they aren't even artisan, just good honest fags.

Anonymous said...

There are plenty of trustafarian types in Brockley who work on media (but who are actually on the dole) who smoke artisan rollups. I've seen both Brockley Nick and Headhunter on them.

Brockley Nick said...

Don't smoke. Not a trustafarian.

Anonymous said...

fags are now about £7.20 n(for your 'big' named brands like Marlboro, B&H etc) so an average 20 a day smoker is spending £2628 per year on cigarettes, or as I interpreted it 2628 reasons to give up which I have done. Yay for me :) p.s. roll ups aren't artisan surely? more DIY / craft?

Headhunter said...

I don't smoke either. well not very often, and when I do, I cadge them off someone else, bugger spending £7 on a pack of fags when I've got an artisan bread habit to feed. Definitely not a trustafarian... I shouldn't think I'd live in Brockers if I were! I'd be in Notting Hill or something...

Monkeyboy said...

I'm on the public payroll, much like the royal family so chalk me up as a trustafarian.

Anonymous said...

Good honest fags can be bought for a fiver per packet, less if you roll your artisan own.

Headhunter said...

As long as they're good and honest. Ia can't abide by a dishonest fag....

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