Honeypot Street Party

There's a street party outside the Honeypot on Upper Brockley Road, for those who like their royal occasions accompanied by a huge sound system. On Twitter, Luke reports that it's "MEGA" and is looking for people to skank with him. Skank on, sweet princes and princesses of SE4.

78 comments:

the kind of music you like is not the kind of music I like said...

There's a big sound system up this end of Brockley Road too which is doing my head in so much I'm going to vacate my home for the remainder of today.

Ooh, they're playing that Ganja Farmer song said...

I do quite like that one.

Anonymous said...

Can hear it in Ladywell and wishing we had a street party to celebrate too! Lovely sunny afternoon

Anonymous said...

So long as they're not arrested for being a public nuisance ;-)

Anonymous said...

Oh lose the negativity, yawn!

Brockley Dogging Society said...

Did some one say.... oh SKANK! As you were doggers, as you were,,,,,

Anonymous said...

where's the film/photos of the street party then?

Snippy said...

It's been going for 12 hours now, the bass is doing my head in.

Negativity... No I won't lose it. Today has been possibly the worst day ever. Royal prats.

Snippy said...

It's been going for 12 hours now, the bass is doing my head in.

Negativity... No I won't lose it. Today has been possibly the worst day ever. Royal prats.

BCY said...

No is has not. Was in the barbers till past 2.30pm and no sound system was out...

Snippy said...

Yeah, you're right, actually more like 7 hours. So it's fine then! Suddenly I can sleep with all that noise, cos I exaggerated about how long it's been on. Thanks for your help. Night night.

Anonymous said...

They dont need an excuse to get the sound system going,there always doing it.

Nuisance or patriotism? said...

You go to the top of the mets action list if your getting married and an old geezer is planning something embarrassing. Makes me proud to be British. Gawd bless yer 'ighnesses!!

Anonymous said...

I want to see photos of the street party...

THE BROCKLEY AVENGER said...

My sympathies are with you Snippy. But nothing to do with royalty. A lack of control through police fear is this issue.

Time and times again the Honeypot, or rather the convenience store next to it to be accurate - Met please read your notebook - attracts a large posse at all hours of the day and night drinking alcohol (isn't there a ban there?) and openly smoking substances (by the kids school!) that must have been legalised. The police turn a blind eye, perhaps due to its commander's softly-softly approach. The cars on pavements and the blocking of the public carriageway is astonishing.

Did the organisers of this 'party' have any wardens and toilet facilities?

Unfortunately, and here I read the ganja leaves at the bottom of a can of lager, it will get worse.

Marley said...

The area around the Honeypot is probably one of the most vibrant part of Brockley.

I live round there, and the people are always friendly to me and I like the community feel, lots of kids play in the street there too, something you don't get most places in London.

All this complaining about the odd can of lager being drunk in the street, music being played and the odd reefer, smacks of Daily Mail white middle England fear and is very racially motivated.

The Orchard has music and people smoking and drinking on the pavement outside and no one complains about that. I guess because you don't feel threatened by them, and to coin a phrase used on here they are all very 'mung'. Well the Caribbean community was here well before most of the white middle class influx....

Do The Right Thing said...

Let's not get into the who was here first, it's an arguable point and actually totally irrelevant.

Anonymous said...

Yeah but there not smoking and drinking outside the Orchard at 5 in the morning.

Anonymous said...

No they're all at home having huge dollops of Colombian - and I'm not talking about the coffee from Broca

Must young people these days have the odd spliff. It's not legalised because it's not worth the Daily Mail explosion that was ensue, but the discretion currently employed is clear to see by all concerned.

So chill out, and have a big toke on this.

Anonymous said...

@ Marley. My friends who live in that part of upper Brockley Road are the farthest thing you'll find from Daily Mail readers, nor are they racist, but you see the airport runway decibel level sound that made them leave their homes yesterday doesnt discriminate either.

Anonymous said...

Rather than being miserable, they could've joined in and had a great time

Anonymous said...

Mebbe jus not royalists, not bein Daily Mail readers 'nall (It was very.. very loud)

Tressilliana said...

On this crowded island we won't get along without a bit of give and take. That doesn't mean all give on one side and all take on the other. There are bye-laws about loud noise in the early hours of the morning, aren't there? If that was happening regularly round where I live, I wouldn't be happy and I would be talking to the council and the police.

Tamsin said...

It is one culture imposing itself on its neighbours on a grand scale so I reckon complaints after several hours are justified.

However much you would like to accept the invitation to join in and have a great time that's impossible if the sound levels are such that you can't think, let alone speak. And you can't have a great time if you end up with a splitting headache and the bass is making your teeth rattle.

Anonymous said...

Oh believe me Tressilliana people down there have complained, but nothing has been done about it.

Anonymous said...

25% of us had saturation coverage of someone elses wedding we would rather of done without. Mind you.. Kate..... You would....

Anonymous said...

why did the party end so abruptly with people screaming and running and crashing their cars into each other?

The F**cking Queen said...

I think that may of been the Duke of Edinburgh getting hooked up on K and stealing a special branch BMW. The c**t is always doing that, I've told him one more time and he's on the first boat back to Athens.

Anonymous said...

I would go mad if I lived down there..is it a no go area for the police? How are they getting away with all the dealing and the noise, fighting etc. If this is what 'vibrancy' is you can keep it Marley.

Tressilliana said...

Sounds appalling. Are you getting any help from your councillors or Joan Ruddock?

Anonymous said...

nothing will ever change down there-police don't want to touch it..they get to do what they want, including shooting at people it seems

Anonymous said...

Lewisham is a borough wide controlled zone.

Despite it being pointed out there was a lack of enforcement in an existing zone the borough commander fully supported the borough wide zone.

As to noise there is a department that deals with this at the council, are people complaining to the right people?

In another part of Lewisham an inconsiderate individual set up a sound system outside his house blasting out music for 8 hours, that could be heard over a quarter of a mile away.

Less than 50 yards away outside some shops was another sound system blasting out and immediately opposite yet a another extremely loud sound system at work.

From the noise you'd think hundreds of people were present...there were probably less than 20.

Anonymous said...

I heard what sounded like gun shots seconds before the music went off abruptly in the wee small hours...

Monkeyboy said...

Well Tamsin WAS very annoyed. Letting rip with a Magnum .44 was a bit of an over reaction I felt....or a proportionate use of fore if you're a Metropolitan Police Officer.

Anonymous said...

You people all need to lighten up. They really do sell excellent drugs down there. It's all organic and locally sourced too.

Anonymous said...

Your wrong there its mixed with dried herbs, its like smoking a bouquet garni.

Anonymous said...

If it's good enough for meateasy...

SM said...

These people are selfish, and a disgrace. These 'events' are common in the summer months and go on until the early hours, with music, screaming, flagrant drug dealing, litter, abuse, urination in the street. Yet some people are on here defending themselves... but it is indefensible.

I don't take well to people treating this light-heartedly either - this is a serious problem.

Not the met police said...

Well the police were busy that day. Two vans and lots of police to arrest an old geezer who was thinking about staging a crass puppet show. It's all about priorities in a time of limited resources.

Anonymous said...

"These 'events' are common in the summer months and go on until the early hours, with music, screaming, flagrant drug dealing, litter, abuse, urination in the street"

How can I join in?

Seriously, most of what you've described above constitutes a house party. Join in.

Anonymous said...

Funny how in the rest of Brockley the greatest nuisance imaginable is 'dog poo', or 'dog poo stencils' while this corner which begins to resemble the 'Amsterdam' thread on 'The Wire' brings out the liberal in those who don't live there.

Anonymous said...

Exactly,I know a couple who having complained numerous times with nothing being done, finally gave in and moved.

Anonymous said...

Lol this is all a joke! i'm the license holder for the off- license you people speak of!

Most of the people that complain to the shop owner about what other people do on the public highway!

You claim the council do nothing but thats not true they are constantly asking us to police the outside of the shop which we refuse to do!

Another fact is that we run the shop and control the area inside the shop! NOT THE STREETS!! it's easy for people to blame and point fingers as they feel threatened but the fact of the matter is these people are not trouble makers! Also even though some say this is not important, these people have been here before most of the complainers were! mayeb some research before moving would have been advised?!?

I have come from chislehurst and believe it or not this area is much better! people are nicer and the crime rate is lower! shocking to think what some of you may say if you lived in a truly bad area! Hate to bring race into it but it will mainly be the white folks complaining!

Westsider said...

No one was blaming you were they? Some people are unhappy with the level of noise and anti-social behaviour that is sometimes generated on that part of the street.

You've just admitted that there are problems, so why bring race in to it, as though it's not legitimate to complain about these problems? Saying that the people causing problems have been doing so for a long time doesn't make it OK and telling people they should have done more homework before moving to the area is pathetic.

If there are problems, let's try to deal with them. I don't blame you, but I don't think you're displaying a helpful attitude here either.

Anonymous said...

I'm not saying there is a problem but commenting on what others call a problem! it's not a problem to me as my concern is the shop!!

I do not have issue with the noise and when people come along in there cars blasting music its not an issue I'm interested in as i only run a shop!

As for helping I am not willing to put myself out to help those who will happily stab me in the back! as has been demonstrated over the years!

Bridges have been well and truly burnt and im not rebuilding them! people that live there can deal with the locals by themselves!

As for not helpful why should i be whos helping me or has been for the last few years?!? none of these fine community members thats for sure!

Adam said...

I'd just like to point out that I was here first.

Westsider said...

Why do the Council ask you to help with the issue if it is not a problem?

Do you agree urination in the streets, drug dealing and the occasional gunshot near a primary school are problems? If they are, do people have a right to complain?

What is it that local people have done to annoy you?

Anonymous said...

The council ask us to police the area outside the shop! as a shop owner it is not my job to police the streets!! I control only the shop!

"Do you agree urination in the streets, drug dealing and the occasional gunshot near a primary school are problems? If they are, do people have a right to complain?"

Now if any of this happens in the shop you have an issue with the shop! outside of that then why would i get involved?!? the out come could be trouble for myself!

Now as for gun shots outside the school i'm quite sure when the police came round and asked me what i heard, if it was a gun shot the police would not have said it was just fireworks.

At the end of the day this is pointless i only commented due to people mentioning the shop!

These people were there before and will no doubt be there long after the shop has gone!

For those that live there that don't like it i wish the best of luck!

Westsider said...

I didn't say it was your fault - I'm taking issue with you calling people racist because they complain about these problems.

As for the gunshot, I'm not talking about the other night, I'm talking about a year or two ago, when problems at that spot resulted in a bullet hole.

You've made your position clear: You don't care about these problems so long as they don't affect you or your shop and you carry on taking money from the people causing the problems and you'll do nothing to help local residents, the Council or the police deal with the problem.

I understand why you wouldn't want to cause problems for yourself, but don't come on here having a go at people for being racist and telling them they'r thick for moving in to the area (as though everyone affected even has a choice about where they live). It's not cool.

Anonymous said...

"I understand why you wouldn't want to cause problems for yourself, but don't come on here having a go at people for being racist and telling them they'r thick for moving in to the area (as though everyone affected even has a choice about where they live). It's not cool."

Oh dear are you one of these people that makes things up?!? not quite sure where i used the word racist and or telling anyone there thick!! saying do some research before moving to an area is not calling people stupid! and to say most of the complaints are probably from white people is not claiming racism!! it's just stating that most of the complaints have prbobably come from the white people in the area, this does not suggest there racist!! please do not mis quote or imply things that are incorrect!!

And also if you wish for me to start causing myself issues by discrimanating against customers on the grounds they may have offended some residents then maybe you should come run the buisness?!?

But thats what it is a buisness there to make money, once the working day is done i go home, my sole intention in going there is to work and make money, not to save the world or be a freedom fighter!

Sorry i'm not a champion for the people like your good self!

Anonymous said...

Also just to add the incident with the gun was nothing to do with the shops! as they were all shut its was something to do with a bus round the corner and then they ran round to the front where whatever happened happened!

This was something that happened in the area not commited by the people of the area as far as im aware.

Westsider said...

"Sorry i'm not a champion for the people like your good self!"

I don't live anywhere near your shop, I just don't like the way you've talked to people.

And come on, you can't say:

"Hate to bring race into it but it will mainly be the white folks complaining!"

And then say you weren't suggesting people complaining are racist.

And you can't say:

"these people have been here before most of the complainers were! mayeb some research before moving would have been advised?!?"

And then say you weren't implying they were thick and got what they deserved (and you're still ignoring the point that many people affected didn't move there by choice, they took whatever available social housing they were offered).

Anonymous said...

'People not of the area', Do you mean the ones that travel to upper Brockley Road to trade drugs?

Anonymous said...

I could not tell you why anyone travels anywhere or if people buy drugs why or who they buy them from! and as for westsider or whatever your name is! i can say as i like! i know what i meant and you can take my words as you like im really not interested!

People on housing shouldn't complain when they are given somewhere to live other than the street!

I work to pay for my housing and everything else i own!

At the end of the day people take the actions they want to take if they complain and dont feel there getting anywhere then leave! or take some other form of action i welcome it! just leave super cuts out of it!

And as someone that doesn't live round here why would you comment?!?

and also im not talking to anyone other than you it would seem Westsider so you don't like the way i talk to people?!? you seem to have a strange understanding of words and what they actually mean, you must be one of these people that knows what i mean better than i do! well done to you! :)

Westsider said...

"People on housing shouldn't complain when they are given somewhere to live other than the street!"

So people in social housing have no right to complain about anything. If I want to poo on their doorsteps, that's just tough.

No wonder you've burnt bridges with local people, you have a real way with words.

You can say I'm putting words in your mouth, but your words are clear for all to see.

"And as someone that doesn't live round here why would you comment?!?"

I live in Brockley and I care about my community. You don't live in Brockley and you don't care about the community, so the question is why are you on here commenting at all.

No one was talking about your shop.

Anonymous said...

Shop owner, what does all the stuff about white people have to do with anything?

Anonymous said...

Scroll up you will see comments about the shop! and as for pooing on doorsteps you can do as you wish!!

Yes i do burn bridges with people that throw accusations! and as for me not living in brockley shows what you know! you make many assumptions that are very wrong! but as a human that is somewhat free you are entitled to your opinion, however wrong it maybe!

You care about something so much you do not have all the facts to back your arguement?!? peoples opinion of me means very little when i go home at night so i shall sleep easily knowing im doing no one harm or wrong! sorry if i cannot change the community to make everyone else trouble go away but hey such is life!

drakefell debaser said...

@shop keeper, it may have something to do with your poor writing skills but bringing up race in the first place is never a good idea, particularly if you make careless implications.

As a local business owner you should have more respect for the area you earn a crust off because fortune can swing both ways and you may find yourself on a waiting list for housing one day.

Westsider said...

scroll up to see comments?

one comment in a massive thread where someone says

"attracts a large posse at all hours of the day and night drinking alcohol."

It doesn't say this is your fault, but it's a fact that you don't seem to be denying.

So what are you arguing about?

If you live in Brockley, fine, you confused things when you said "I have come from Chislehurst."

Anonymous said...

My writing skill or lack of it is not the issue here!

And as ive said you are all entitled to your opinions more assumptions are being made which is fine i am use to this!

I have had this license for many years now and in that time the shop has been attacked as the source of bringing these people into the area! now anyone that wants to check will see they were there before hand!

Also the white people comments were just, as we have had complaints from certain people on the street claiming we are the cause of the trouble people complain about, im sorry to say but these people were white, now if me stating this fact makes me racist or states that these people are racist then my words have been taken out of context!! but regardless the people on the forum would look to bash anything or one that would try and defend this area and what the shops Super cuts and Honey pot do within it as it's not to your liking.

Good luck to you all! im glad i only hold the license and don't have to deal with you people day to day! not the best with my words when frustrated! :)

b. said...

pure entertainment. for tools.
happy tuesday everyone.

Anonymous said...

Yes i moved from chislehurst with its higher crime rate to brockley! would seem your reading what you want and not what ive said.

Anonymous said...

Shop owner, are you the sort of shop owner that sells drinks like Tennents Super to tramps?

Peace and Quiet said...

Sounds just like the circumstances for which ASBOs were introduced.

Or I am wrong?

Anonymous said...

The shopowner has spoken and finds himself hard done by. Go ply your trade elsewhere and see how welcome you are made to feel there. You have brought nothing but misery to people's lives..you and your shop. And the last refugee of the scoundrel in this case is race. Oh grow up and do something useful, and do it somewhere else!

a local said...

Let's get something straight, Brockley is a mixed area with council housing, academics, loads of gays in couples and blacks and bail houstels and mental health sufferers and students. I have that all this 'diversity in my small stretch of street alone"

We all belong here. You are living a multicultural zone 2 location. It is not going to be a sedate suburbia.

The vicious nasty comments against a shop that doesn't cater to their is classic of small minded, petty, selfish, do not nothing for anyone else unless benefits brigade, ne'er do wells that have to this area in the last few years.

Westsider said...

I hope you're not talking to me when you talk about vicious comments - I have never been in his shop and don't care how he conducts his business. I do care when he starts abusing people as being too thick, too white or too poor to be able to complain about illegal and antisocial behaviour on their doorsteps.

Urinating on people's doorsteps has nothing to do with multiculturalism. Please stop dragging ethnicity in to it.

Anonymous said...

listen up 'local', I don't want to live in a sedate suburbia either. that does not mean I have to tolerate the shit that goes on down there. Notice how quiet it is on Sunday mornings when that shop is closed!? Enough, they can piss and shout and scrap and get mashed somewhere else and that shop keeper can bugger off with them. He just told you he doesn't give a toss about anyone except himself..don't go feeling sorry for him.

Headhunter said...

Just noticed this thread. So THAT'S what the noise was. I was out most of Fri but when I got back at about 8, I could feel the bass pounding through our building and I live a fair way away at the other end of Manor Ave! Even round the back of my place in the garden you could hear and feel the pounding. I feel very sorry for those living on UBR....

Neighbourhood Watch said...

I live a few doors down from Supercuts, they sell the coldest cans of beer in the whole of Brockley, something to be proud of I think.

I've always found everyone at the shop pleasant, and if you actually engage with the people hanging around outside they are all friendly too.

Whilst the owner of Supercuts hasn't ingratiated himself very well on here I can see his frustration, with lots of other locals blaming his shop for everyone hanging around outside. Are fast food joints responsible for the litter they create, or people eating outside of them?

Also in five years of living there I have never experienced anyone pissing on my doorstep. This issue is either false or hugely exaggerated.

One of my neighbours is hell bent on getting everyone arrested and the shops closed down, as in his words 'imagine how much it's taking off the price of our properties', which sadly seems to be his driving force rather than how much it actually effects him.

Perhaps if people engaged more with others rather than threatening to call the police the whole time then you might see more positive results.

patrick1971 said...

"Are fast food joints responsible for the litter they create, or people eating outside of them?"

I would say yes on both counts.

Anonymous said...

I think the problem is more linked to the 'plumbers' shop than Supercuts... they always seems to be busy partying in there , unless of course the plumbing happens late into the night

Anonymous said...

I live a few doors away also and I am not concerned about the price of my property. To suggest that Supercuts has nothing to do with the mob that hangs outside the shop is interesting. Why are they there then? and why does the manager of Supercuts associate with them? Why is he selling alcohol to them if as he admits himself they are causing a nuisance? Why is he allowing dealers to congregate in his doorway? Why does he allow his customers to annoy and intimidate the residents along that stretch of UBR?
I'm glad to hear they have not bothered Neighbourhoodwatch but he is in a very small minority indeed. As for gross exagerations, just open your eyes..

Anonymous said...

What is he meant to do, say

"I won't serve you"

"Why innit"

"Because you stand outside isn't it"

?

Anonymous said...

wonderful contribution sir/maddam..I recommend a career in local government..Lewisham Council maybe? they seem largely devoid of wit such as yours.

Anonymous said...

See Thar ole Royal Weddin party still goin tonight. Sure makes me proud.

Anonymous said...

and yet again culminating in a row with some chap shouting that he was going to stab someone in the face

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