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The News Shopper reports that a new women's network has launched in the area. Reportedly a Brockley group, but meeting in Moonshot in New Cross, it's called Ladies Who Latte and it's an an all-purpose, drop-in social.
Whilst the gesture is a noble one, it is a bit sexist. I don't want to decent to a "if men wanted to do this there'd be an outrage" style argument, but surely the emphasis should be on meeting people regardless of sex?
I don't think so - it's not preventing a men only group or a mixed group setting up. I think it shows a nice sense of humour and an ability to poke fun at oneself.
What does everything think: we organised a men only dinner at work, just as a social thing - didn't really think about it. Some of the women on the team said we were being exclusive and it hampered their their ability to network (for want of a better word). Boss is male and he came to the dinner. At no point were work issues discussed. Did we make a mistake?
I should add that some guys weren't incited too.
At least you could've made nob jokes over dinner without the fear that you might be invited to HR. I think that's the worry.
@Tim - I wouldn't have done that. Never mind the HR policies, it's a bit divisive, particularly since dinner parties are something men and women enjoy equally. Men and women at my company sometimes divide off outside of work, but usually because the men don't want to play netball and the women don't want to play football. No-one feels resentful.Out of interest, what was the reason for an all male dinner?
We have lots of men-only, women-only and mixed lunches at our company. (That's the way they turn out rather than having an entry code etc.)In my experience the men-only ones tends to take on a slightly less censored tone. From speaking to my female colleagues, I could suggest the same of theirs.Unfortunately in this day and age it's less about being offended, more wanting to find offence.
I think lunches are a bit different, they're more about informal friendship groups, but dinners are "out of work", more boozy, more formally social.I don't think people should take offence, but I can see why people might feel left out if half the team go out with the boss and the other half don't...
Those ladies who latte, I take they don't do work as meetings are on Friday on 10am?
I'm thinking of starting up a new local networking group, "Men who Mung"Weak lemon drinks will be served as well as, once a month, ryvita. Who's with me?
Who would want to go to dinner with the boss anyway.
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The only reason to go to dinner with your colleagues is to try to get a shag
I spent ages on that and it doesnt display properly. Sometime I don't know why I bother poking old misery guts with a stick.
If that were true, then I would have only invited women! Do you not have friends at work? Do you not go to dinner with friends?
@Waiting for Lou - I get all new posts via email and I could read it. If it makes you feel better, it made me laugh.
@waitingYou'll be pleased to know that I have no objection to groups of women drinking lattes. Or groups of men drinking them. Or mixed groups. I would hope, though, that men are not excluded on the grounds they are men - in the same way that women should never be excluded from anything on the grounds they are women.I also hope they are drinking fair trade coffee. It is socially responsible to ensure farmers in the developing world are getting a fair reward for their labours.
Ps: it made me laugh too.Pinko.
Blokes wot beer?
"Blokes wot Beer" describes the Talbot about 5 years ago.Fortunately we now live in more enlightend times.The cats and dogs still don't mix very well though.......
Sorry if anyone is offended but that’s not the intention. There are lots of different ways of doing business networking, most are mixed, but, for example, The Freemasons are still men only, aren't they? And some groups are women only. In the case of LadiesWhoLatte, it’s not about exclusion, it’s about acknowledging that in general, men and women are different - and we often do business differently. That’s not to say that all women do things the same or that all men do things the same but ... ... There are plenty of business networking groups out there and they wouldn’t be effective if they were all the same. There are also many business women who would have no interest in casual networking over coffee with a bunch of other business women - but there are many of us who have realised that it’s a great way to improve our businesses. We’re the ones who will be at the LadiesWhoLatte coffee mornings and if you’re a woman who would like to mix with other business women in this way, please come along. At the first meeting businesses represented included: financial advice, career management counselling, video social media, freelance PAs, lingerie home fitting consultant, jewellery, website design. At other meetings businesses represented have been: photographers, interior design, complimentary health practitioners etc. So you can see, we’re serious businesses but we do have a feminine angle. We’ve decided to change the next meeting to the second Friday of every month so that we don’t clash with the other LadiesWhoLatte coffee mornings in the area and to move it to a venue close to Brockley station – seeing as it’s the Brockley group!! If you’re interested in coming keep an eye on the Ladies Who Latte website, or we’ll post here when we know more details.
The next Brockley LadiesWhoLatte is this Friday (15th) at the Toads Mouth Cafe, 188 Brockley Road, SE4 2RL. 10am to 12.30pm. Open to all business women who want to chat informally with other business women. Bring business cards and some change for your coffee.
Hi LWL, do you have an email? We would love to arrange a presentation as part of our membership drive, Colin has been bashing his mouse raw producing a Power Point spectacular.
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