Albertines on the market

The Albertines pub on the corner of Lewisham Way and Friendly Street is on the market. Its lease is for sale at £35,000 via Enterprise Inns. This isn't new news, it's been on the market a while, but it's worth noting that if you're up for a challenge, there it is.

23 comments:

patrick1971 said...

Maybe the music-free contingent from the Ravensbourne Arms thread could band together and purchase it! And employ Lou as barman and Hugh as bouncer.

Anonymous said...

Wouldn't be surprised to see the Wickham Arms next on the market, there were signs up on Wednesday saying "closed until further notice" but it was still open bizarrely. Maybe the rumours that Ed and Emily from The Orchard are after it will turn out to be true after all

Headhunter said...

The Wickham has been on the market for years hasn't it? I assumed the owners were half interested in a decent offer but not that bothered if it didn't sell... Hadn't seen the "closed til further notice" signs though...

TM said...

Judging by the condition of the building fabric inside and out this is not a good deal on the face of it.

Enterprise would need to carry out a Rosemary Branch style refurbishment for me to take this on.

Strangely I called in the renamed Haberdshers Arms on Wednesday this week about 10.30pm to be met by a completely empty pub. Just me and a barmaid.

Had my pint - which was fine - and left her on her own to close up.

Use or loose it as they say.

Matt-Z said...

In the 90s it used to be something of a student hang-out when it was still the Malt & Hops. The upstairs pool room was bathed in a green haze from the exotic cheroots favoured by many of the clientèle.

Again, a pub with a decent catchment area and lots of potential demand from Goldsmiths, Lewisham College, local residents and so on. What's the betting it ends up as flats?

Headhunter said...

I went to the Haberdashers a week or so ago on Sat eve, when we arrived there was 1 other table of people.... At the time we left a few others had arrived. It seems to have been nicely done out, I wish it success and hope people use it...

Matt-Z said...

@ TM, re: The Old Haberdasher, I popped in on Saturday night to find it pretty empty. Not sure about the set up either, with all the tables laid for food with napkins, wineglasses etc. That's not going to encourage people in on a Friday or Saturday evening. Plus the only ale was the dishwater-like Greene King IPA. It should be so easy to get that pub right, but somehow I fear they've ballsed it up again.

Headhunter said...

Yeah, Albertines is prime for a flats conversion at some point, just about ever other building along that stretch which was previously a shop or bank of some kind (except Meze Mangal) has been converted into flats.

BTW what's happening with the Crown and Sceptre conversion on Friendly Street after the developer brutally stripped off all the Victorian tiling from the outside in direct contravention of planning permission? I thought they were supposed to replace them? At the moment the building looks awful - unpainted, damp looking, unfinished render on the outside. I pity anyone who has has a flat in there, the developer appears to be a complete cowboy, and they have there company name proudly pasted to the front.... I'd be removing it quick if I were them, not a good ad for their work!

Matt-Z said...

The new intake of Goldsmiths students arrives in a month or so. If the Haberdashers gets it right they will have a captive audience, many of whom live in Surrey House about a minute's walk away.

mk said...

Problem with the Haberdashers is that it's just a bit too drab. New Cross House and Royal Albert work because they have a good beer selection, enticing decor and/or decent tunes. Being so close to Goldsmiths, I'd have thought HA would go for a similar feel, as I'm not sure it's current setup would entice much of a student clientele.

gibby said...

@Matt-Z

Re. Malt & Hops in the 90's, my overriding memory is of the somewhat bonkers lady who used to do cartwheels with no knickers....

Matt-Z said...

Indeed mk, it feels cold and restaurant like, not enticing. There are no soft furnishings and no comfy corners to hang out in. On the plus side the bogs no longer stink, but apparently the ladies need to be contortionists to get into their cubicles and shut the door.

Random fact: many years ago I was a barman at the Rosie, post heyday but still a popular pub. One morning I was sent out to the back garden to clear up the night before's bottles, glasses and ashtrays. I saw things glinting in the bushes outside the toilet windows: people had been filling up their drinks from cans and chucking them out of the toilet window, hardly a surprise in a student pub in the 90s. There were loads so it took a while to gather them up, and all was going well until to my horror I discovered several pairs of soiled pants that had also been discarded via the window.

TM said...

Well the old saying

Knickerless girls shouldn't climb trees...

clearly also applies to cartwheels.

I also apologise for calling the Old Haberdasher the Haberdasher's Arms which it isn't.

So OH not HA

Anonymous said...

The Hobgoblin in New Cross does 20% discount for students, so the Old Haberdashers will have to go some.

Wild at Heart said...

Haberdashers looks lovely from the outside, exactly what Brockley needs. But I have never been drinking in New Cross. Anyone able to suggest a good 'pub crawl' route if say, starting at NXG station?

TM said...

I did do a route in New Cross once before on here but going the other way.

I think it went
Royal Albert
Amersham
Walpole
Marquis Of Granby
Hobgoblin
The Telegraph
Montague Arms

To that we now add
Old Haberdasher
New Cross House
New Cross Inn
all three of which have just been done up.

10 pints if you can manage it.

patrick1971 said...

I dined at the Old Haberdasher two weeks ago on a Saturday night and it was about half full. We got chatting to the South African manager and he said that they were happy with the slow start and were looking for it to pick up when the students returned. We shall see! But do get along there, the food is excellent. Good place for just a drink, too.

mk said...

I think they've pitched the style a bit too high. It feels like the kind of place I'd find in Kensington, not New Cross.

Matt-Z said...

@ Patrick, what's the pricing like on the food?

Wild at Heart said...

@TM - many thanks

theoldtrawlerman said...

There's an earlier thread somewhere on here devoted to the Old Haberdasher make-over, food etc. In a nutshell though, it's been excellent the three times I've been.

Bored and Tired said...

@headhunter, I would also like a follow-up on the crown and sceptre. It makes me mad every time I see it, clearly not finished, with people (suckers!) living in it. It seems that, even though the council gave strict instructions to replace the tiles (and wasn't he also supposed to replace the upvc windows?) and despite the intervention of Broc Soc (in this case 100% welcome), the developer has been allowed to flout the council's demands and get away with his wilful destruction of an attractive building.

patrick1971 said...

@Matt-Z: I think he's pitched it a little high on the pricing, although not ludicrously so. The most expensive is the steak at £15.95. Other dishes are around £11.95/£12.95. So it is a proper evening out rather than "just" pub food. The quality of the food is excellent, though, so it is worth the money IMHO.

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