Brockley Market: Coming Soon

It's a rare idea that generates near unanimous support from the broad church of Brockley Central, but the proposal to create a Brockley Market, held on weekends in the Lewisham College car park on Lewisham Way, was a resounding hit when it was floated back in May.

The idea is now taking shape fast and we should be able to bring you the full details shortly, but for now, you can follow them on Facebook, where they've just launched a new page, confirming that it will be held on Saturdays, between 10am and 2pm.

141 comments:

Anonymous said...

Where is Lewisham College's nearest cash machine? Might pose an issue for visitors coming to this market.

TM said...

Not that far - Tesco Local near Lucas Street.

But they don't do cashback when it runs out.....even if you buy something.

Brockley Nick said...

The bastards!

Anonymous said...

Tesco express approaching from New Cross and Tesco Express approaching from Lewisham,
and there may be one in the shops near The Talbot.

But surely people try to come prepared to markets?

TM said...

Now now Nick just because you are in Sainsbury's corner :0)

Brockley Nick said...

Oh yes, full disclosure, yada, yada, yada. ;)

Anonymous said...

A mere hop, skip and jump away at the grocers bottom of Twyhritt Rd. Though it charges you to use it, so does that count?

Brockley Nick said...

No, cash machines that charge do not exist in this dojo.

Anonymous said...

Thought there was one there
(p.s it's Tyrwhitt)

Anonymous said...

That link doesn't take you to facebook at the moment.

Brockley Nick said...

Whoops, does now. ta

Dissappointed said...

AWWWWWW Wish they would move all of these bitty markets and create one big decent one on Coulgate street at weekends instead.

That college is pretty far for many of us to walk for a bag of carrots and a carb free vol-u-vent. Its barely SE4, more St Johns really.

Anonymous said...

The farmers market in hilly fields would be better placed in coulgate street -better for footfall and to create some extra local trade and interest

Ian on the Hill said...

Mind you, if it's just another Farmers' Market then we have that at Hilly fields and Telegraph Hill already. Seems a bit pointless. I'd hope it would be a real market rather than 'aspirational'. I miss the old Boot Sale there.

Brockley Nick said...

Details soon, but it will be fairly different to either of the farmers markets, which in any case, in my view, are too small and infrequent to really take off. And in the Hilly Fields one's case, I don't think the location is very helpful.

Ian on the HIll said...

...and why have one to compete with Lewisham's Saturday market?

Brockley Nick said...

PS - they are never going to allow regular markets in Coulgate Street.

Brockley Nick said...

"...and why have one to compete with Lewisham's Saturday market?"

Because it's not a zero sum game? Whenever you hold a market, you'll always be competing with somewhere.

Maybe wait to hear the plans?

Tim said...

Can't wait. If it's half decent I'll spend all my cash there rather than Borough or Blackheath (fingers crossed).

I'm going for a walk.... said...

This location is much better than Coulgate St, great tyrefall and traders vans will never end up on the van thread. Good out the way space that the market can expand into.

Coulgate St is .9 of a mile from St Johns, the minimum distance to confirm visitors have the required stamina to make the return, carrot laden journey.

Anonymous said...

Is it going to be a farmers market ? otherwise traders from Lewisham market could just shift some of there wares up there.

Brockley Market said...

More details very soon, in the meantime tell us what you would like from a weekly community market - what type of produce etc..

Twitter = @brockleymarket
Facebook = brockleymarket

Anonymous said...

What's Facebook? Is this information available to normal people.

Anonymous said...

Yes, they're all on Facebook.

The world isn't going to come to you any more because you refuse to use "things". You need to participate and join in.

mb said...

Send a Fax...

Looking forward to it, no point selling the same stuff as the (great) Deptford market. I'd be happy with what they sell at El's but a wider range. Welbeloved does some great stuff, I'm in there once a week. Teir sausages and bacon are a bit 'meh' to be honest so REALLY good bacon and sausages please. Also want the best tomatos you can find, bought some great ones at Els but the price was a bit steep.

Brockley Market said...

Re: Anonymous said... 23 August 2011 12:32 - yep not everyone uses Facebook/twitter etc...

There will be a more informative website with more info soon..

www.brockleymarket.com

or email us with any suggestions/questions

email: hello@brockleymarket.com

Will be back with more information soon Awaiting final signed contract from Lewisham College - so in the meantime as local residents please let us know what you would like from a weekly local market in the area you live.

Thanks

sourpuss said...

one of the things I want from a market is that it's in a nice location, so on that front it doesn't meet my criteria. It's also a bit far for me to bother.

Lizzie said...

Being a New Cross dweller, I'd like to see the market sell a good selection of fruit and veg, decent bread, and a fishmongers.

No cupcakes please. PLEASE. urgh.

Anonymous said...

Sourpuss = Sourgrapes

Why not give it a go, why are the people of Brockley so negative sometimes? It's not as if that Brockley is the shopping/market mecca of London.

Anonymous said...

cos it'll be like a car boot sale...

FS said...

A decent loaf, some crumpet and some muffin would be nice.

THNick said...

I can get good bread, fruit and veg and fish in Nunhead already. I want cheese and that woman that sold Polish pastries in Peckham.

I'm actually being serious here said...

The thing is when I say that I'd like a local market - I don't really mean it, and I suspect there are a few others like me. I like the 'idea' of a market, as long as it's near where I live and adheres to my middle-class sensibilities. I don't actually want to shop there regularly beyond casually wandering down and picking up some artisan marmalade. I don't want fruit or veg or things that I actually need. I want ginger pig sausage rolls that 6 quid a pop. The fact that this market is a good 25 mins walk from my house means I know I'll never go - It's in a XXXing car park for goodness sake (Lewisham College's) (On that hideous Road) - that's bloody depressing. I don't think there will be any kind of experiential difference than going to Lewisham market. I'd rather jump on a train at Brockley and go to Borough.

Tim said...

Drive there then. Or get a cab

Anonymous said...

How about standard fruit and veg in £1 bowls that will help people and families able to enjoy better and more greater meals than more pointless little artisan show off stalls that gain nothing for the community. Now that I would pay for and enjoy.

Anonymous said...

@Tim. wash your mouth out son. You know we don't use language like that around here.

Anonymous said...

cAn't see what is wrong with a car boot sale. The nearest regular one at present is at Camberwell and that thrives.

Anonymous said...

I believe the car boot was shut because not enough people used it,lets hope this dont go the same way.

Anonymous said...

If you can "jump" on a train in Brockley but it takes 25min to walk to St Johns, I think you're getting lost. The Cross is confusing, go up Harefield.
Last time I went to Borough it was a building site. Great train ride though.

I would love to see a market with artisans and car booters cheek to jowl. Sort of place I could get some organic kale, a screen protector, a flat white and 10 lighters for a quid.

Brockley Nick said...

@IABS

"It's in a XXXing car park for goodness sake"

Yes, so there will be lots of space for a market of a decent size. It won't look like a car park when it's full of stalls.

"(On that hideous Road) - that's bloody depressing."

It's actually a rather lovely spot. Opposite the Stone House (see recent posts) and some rather grand houses, next to Lewisham College, which is quite handsome, jutting in to some of the nicest parts of the conservation area and dotted liberally with trees. Lewisham Way is a main road but that spot is never really clogged with traffic and it's handy for St Johns station. While you may not live particularly nearby, presumably other people do.

Yeah! said...

Well said Nick, what is wrong with some people on this blog. Always trying to put things down.

A weekly market would be fab, somewhere to do the majority of my shop without having to use Sainsbury's or Tesco's. The location is good I walked past on Saturday when the sun was out and thought it would make a great space, there is parking and not many houses on that part of Tressillian road, also next to a station and bus stops. Win Win

Tiny Tears said...

As opposed to all the naysayers who don't live near by, I live on Tressillian Road and would LOVE to use this market every Saturday.

What I would find really useful is a place to buy meat and fish (I get a Riverford veg box every week but am sure other people would appreciate veg), a nice variety of cheese, local eggs and nice bread. I live a little too far away from the decent butchers in Crofton park and Nunhead and don't get me started on Costcutters meat...

If I could get all these products here, I wouldn't need to make the trek to Sainsburys in New Cross again! I personally don't find the Hillyfields market big enough.

Thank you Brockley Market for thinking of this.

Headhunter said...

"How about standard fruit and veg in £1 bowls that will help people and families able to enjoy better and more greater meals than more pointless little artisan show off stalls that gain nothing for the community. Now that I would pay for and enjoy."

Err, have you tried Lewisham Market? It's about half a mile down the road and would appear to have everything you need....

Anonymous said...

Positivity people! Let's think of ALL the positive things this market could bring to the area instead of nit picking and focusing on the negatives.

I am a Brockley resident and I will support the market with cash in my wallet and a smile on my face :)

tiny Tears said...

In reply, err Headhunter, Lewisham market is a good 20-25 minute walk (especially for this pregnant lady) or a bus ride away from me. Much as I like it, it's not that near. I don't own a car and I don't cycle (sorry).

How about letting people embrace something that will make their lives better / easier than pointing out what they should be doing with their lives instead?

Honestly, all the negativity on this site makes me weep sometimes. If a market was opening up on Coulgate St, in 'West Brockley' or in Honor Oak for example, I would be happy for the people who lived nearby!

Brockley Nick said...

The nature of people - particularly British people - is that the most miserable tend to speak loudest. Don't worry about the odd misanthrope.

Anonymous said...

Good bread, seasonal veg, plants, free-range eggs, meat, fish, decent coffee - Excited! Great for the area, bring it on

Faraway Tree said...

I think the idea of having those £1 bowls of veg is great. Alongside all the poncy stuff. Let's face it, people will buy more. They'll buy their weekly fruit and veg, as well as a few fancy items. (And Lewisham market is an additional 20mins walk away... quite far with shopping bags)

I too like the thought of a flat white and ten lighters for a quid in the same place. Here's hoping!

You lot who happen to live over the other side of Brockley - it's not that far ffs! And if you'd rather go to Hilly Fields, Telegraph Hill or even Costalotta, you can do so.

I'm really looking forward to it.

Mb said...

"How about standard fruit and veg in £1 bowls blah..."

We have got that, Deptford Market. Long may it thrive. I guess this will be something higher end, guess what you can 'choose' to use (a) neither (b) either or (c) BOTH.

I'll be (c) I'm not buying standard stuff when I can get that cheap at Deptford, but I'll pay a premium for some decent higher quality stuff if I choose, possible at this new place.

No one will be disadvantaged by this opening, if fact some odd people will be glad that it sucks all the alledged snobs and leave Deptford alone.

(by the way fish, check that new place in Deptford. Not bought anything yet but looks interesting)

I'm actually being serious here said...

Isn't the point of a blog to give your opinion? I've given mine and I stand by it.
Saying that you live nearby and therefore will use it is irrelevant to me.
I wasn't saying that the marlket should close - I was just saying that i was not going to use it. I can't speak for anyone else on this blog I'm simply saying it from my point of view.

TM said...

Some food stalls and/or caravans would be nice.

Get a few aromas of grilled meat drifting over the place.

Sorry Mrs BC

mk said...

Good food and good coffee should do the trick, as well as brunch-friendly bites that might cure a Saturday hangover.

If there's any chance of enticing someone that sells music that'd be great (on a Rough Trade tip), but I realise that's probably a pretty tough ask.

P.S. Wasn't there a record shop in the basement of Moonbow Jakes (now the Brockley Mess)? Was there much of a demand for a record store locally?

Lady Well Enough said...

Great news.

I'd like to see £1 veg & fruit bowls alongside organic fruit & veg, meat & fish, coffee, plants & flowers, and nice bread.

I do use Lewisham market and at the moment have been getting amazing tomatoes £1 a bowl! I'd like to see that kind of value here as well.

It ain't all about race -i told ya said...

Nick said...

The nature of people - particularly British people - is that the most miserable tend to speak loudest. Don't worry about the odd misanthrope.


You narrow minded, comedy stereotyping, generaliser how DARE you generalise when you are making a point on the internet, SCUMBaaaaaaaaaAG!!!!!

Brockley Nick said...

Which demographic was I denigrating? Miserable people aren't a demographic. they're a psychographic.

Matt-Z said...

@Mk

There was indeed a record shop in Moonbow Jakes, but the New Cross branch on the corner next to Iceland. It didn't last unfortunately, perhaps as few people knew it was there, perhaps as New Cross was a difficult market for selling niche vinyl (although I seem to remember CDs too).

This new market has got to be worth a try, anything that gets people shopping locally has to be good, plus it may lead to increased patronage of nearby shops/pubs/cafes on market day. There will no doubt be opportunities for local artisans to sell their wares too. Lou could even get a trestle table from which to flog his many dead horses.

Brockley Nick said...

@matt z - I'd think a market here would be good news for The Talbot.

Anonymous said...

Does the Talbot let people who use markets in.

Carys said...

This is great news. If I still lived on Tressillian Road I'd be thrilled; as it is, I'm just please for the area. Probably a spot too far for me to walk unless there's some really special stuff there, but only a short hop on the bike.

Following on from the requests for £1 fruit/veg baskets, I'd love to see some slightly more expensive ones with a range of vegetables like you get in those home delivered veg boxes. I don't buy those because I can't commit to having one regularly, but I'd gladly pick up a lucky dip of locally grown vegetables. I'd be even happier if they came with some recipe ideas for more adventurous inclusions, so I could pick up the rest of the ingredients while I'm out.

What else? Cakes, bread, cheese... All that sort of stuff. Maybe some stalls of food from other countries too?

I wish you well in your venture!

Anonymous said...

The worst thing about living in New Cross is having to be almost totally reliant on Sainsburys. Almost none of the other shops have anything decent (bar the wonderful kismet) so much as I'd like to support local retailers, buying rotting veg and battery eggs is not for me. When I want £1 bowls of fruit or veg there is lots of choice on lewisham way, but there is no choice of decent veg (farmers markets are always cheaper than supermarkets) or bread. I end up cycling to Blackheath several times a month as there's nowhere else to buy that stuff locally. I don't need cupcakes, but do want to buy fresh veg, decent meat and good bread that has been produced relatively locally.

Faraway Tree said...

I think Carys's idea of a mixed bowl of decent veg for a bit more is a lovely idea. Something I'd definitely go for.

Other than that some decent meat or fish would be FANTASTIC.

Are there any butchers and or fishmongers in the Brockley area that people can recommend? Had a mixed experience with the shops up in Lewisham.

Kismet... ahh... nice place I sometimes stop by on my cycle home. Then again, it is Turkish Cypriot ;-)

TM said...

I use markets - mainly Deptford and it (The Talbot) let me in last night and the night before and the night before etc etc etc

Oh and the quiz tonight and next Tuesday etc etc

You just need to buy your crisps at Taylors across the road

I Broccoli Brockley said...

It would be great if the new market sold some nice fresh bread and some cheeses. And had a stall that sold bacon and sausage sandwiches, so you could munch on those whilst picking out your fruit and veg.

I'm really looking forward to it, I hope it does really well.

Headhunter said...

I think with Deptford and Lewisham Markets and a number of shops in New Cross, Deptford etc selling £1 a bowl fruit and veg we have that covered. I know everyone wants a market right on their doorstep and that 20 mins walk is "too far" but it's highly unlikely that SE London can sustain a £1 a bowl market on every other street! Learn to walk.... Pregnancy is a temporary state, once you've dropped the sprog, learn to walk. If not get Tesco to deliver.

Other than Blackheath Market and the tiny farmers markets on Hilly Fields and Telegraph Hill, there aren't any markets selling "fancy stuff" round here

Tiny Tears said...

"Pregnancy is a temporary state, once you've dropped the sprog, learn to walk."

Headhunter = most patronising person on the planet?
Or just this forum?

Hmm. Let's get this discussion back on the food / wares.

tracy said...

....I can't believe people who live in Brockley think this will be too far for them to walk -it's not that big a place!

Anyway, my wishlist;

-Bread/bakery (I don't mind cupcakes but would rather someone with a bit more variety to offer).
-Coffee
-Fishmongers
-Dairy
-Fruit & Veg (a la Blackheath market ideally)
-Deli type affair
-Stone baked pizza van!
-Mulled wine stand (if the weather stays like this) ...open air bar otherwise??
-Plants.

..Yep, that would definitely see me through a weekend. ;-)

Thanks!

Giant Badger said...

I hope it doesn't attract riffraff up the hill. We prefer them to stay down by the main road. We don't want them seeing how we live.

Anon One said...

@Brockley Market

If someone at the market sells good sushi, they'll get money from me every week.

Other than food, a second-hand book stall or two would be nice, particularly one which buys as well as sells (to pay for sushi). Good quality kitchen gear and/or interesting homeware design would also tempt my wallet.

My ideal market would also have something which will appeal to kids, not a stall selling things, but an activity of some sort. Not sure if it would be possible to create something where kids can be dropped off for 20 minutes whilst parents shop/have a nice coffee/buy sushi. If not, something like a bouncy castle or random worthy educational activity would be great (and extort more money).

Finally, did I mention sushi would be good?

Anonymous said...

so how do you get a stall?

Anonymous said...

Above.... you can contact them here on email

hello@brockleymarket.com

Anonymous said...

Would it be like a boot sale where you just turn up and sell,or would you need some kind of traders license.

Brockley Market said...

Re: Above.

No not a boot sale.

The ethos of the market will be to bring locally sourced and seasonal food produce to the people along with involving local business and creatives.

And yes you would need a license and public liability insurance to trade.

Anonymous said...

Dairy, PLEASE! And also someone doing mushrooms. I haven't had decent mushrooms for a year since Keith, the mushroom guy at Blackheath market (where I do my weekly shop, on foot there and back AMAZING!) unexpectedly passed away. RIP Keith.

Anonymous said...

I'm very excited about the idea of Brockley Market and have a few suggestions.

I was in New York a few months ago and went to the Brooklyn Flea in Forte Greene, which I think was a really good balance of everything you might want in an innercity market. They have a small range of food stalls selling breakfast rolls, toasties, doughnuts and other nice things to nibble on whilst wondering around. Then they also had food and drink made by local producers, like local ales and city honey etc. There was a range of bricker-brac stalls, and then also a few designer-makers.

See: http://www.brooklynflea.com/about/

They have a seperate food market down the road, but I think that all of the above would compliment a decent farmers/food market in Brockley. At the moment I travel from Telegraph Hill to Nunhead for fish (FC Soper) and Bread (Ayres), Tanners Hill for Meat (Welbeloved), I pop to Broca Food Market in Brockley for food and veg, and Browns of Brockley for coffee; however it would be great to have all of these types of things in one place and on a regular basis. The farmers market in Telegraph Hill is good but nowhere near big or regular enough, and I am invariably away on the day it is there.

Brockley Market said...

Re: 23 August 2011 23:30

Need we say more, good people of Brockley... Thats what we want eh? - Can anyone get better than that? - Answers on a Brockley Blog.

hill of beans said...

It's a great proposal, brings into use an empty car park, with lots of passers by/potential customers. If it's too far for you, don't go - no one is forcing you to. I'm sure there are enough £1 scoops to go around without depriving anyone of their livelihood. As for the naysayers, keep it up - it's very entertaining.

Anonymous said...

Ive heard there's a micro-brewery opening in Peckham,would be good if they had a stall there.

Anonymous said...

I am quite surprised no one has mentioned the competition this market will pose to the Broca.

I also live on Tressilian Road and I am not sure whether i will carry on my weekly £10 Veg box delivery once this market starts (Assuming it has a decent Fruit and Veg Stall).

For Meat i usually go to Peter James in Crofton Park and Cheese El's Deli.

Does this spell the end for the monthly market on Hilly fields. Will they be invited to join Brockley Market?

Headhunter said...

Tiny Tears - Just being realistic, are you really expecting someone to set up a market round the corner from you for the 9 months that you are pregnant? As I said, I very much doubt that our area could effectively support any more than 2 large "£1 a bowl" markets (Deptford and Lewisham as well as a number of small shops doing £1 a bowl in the area). What we don't have is "gourmet" or farmers markets...

Super idea said...

"At the moment I travel from Telegraph Hill to Nunhead for fish (FC Soper) and Bread (Ayres), Tanners Hill for Meat (Welbeloved), I pop to Broca Food Market in Brockley for food and veg, and Browns of Brockley for coffee; however it would be great to have all of these types of things in one place and on a regular basis."

...a supermarket then.

Anonymous said...

@Headhunter - I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.. Farmers markets in Hilly Fields, Hither Green, Blackheath, Peckham, Crystal Palace, Dulwich, Forest Hill...

For someone who makes Lewisham/Deptford sound like a 2 min walk (especially with heavy bags of groceries) surely getting there will be a doddle.


And in response to Anon 24 August 2011 09:06 - The Broca veg prices (particularly compared to market prices) are a bit high for my liking.

Anonymous said...

How many places to drink coffee do we need? Do the people of Brockley Central know you can buy some coffee and make it at home? Or even better yet, put it in a flask and go out so you can survive without your caffeine fix!

Anonymous said...

@Anon 10:02

Broca Veg prices perhaps are a little high but the weekly £10 Veg box is great value. I've compared what i've got the last few weeks to a supermarket prices and i think it works out cheaper - worst case the same.

I don't work for the Broca BTW.

Headhunter said...

There are more farmer's markets than I thought in the area but I still think that Lewisham or Deptford markets are hardly a "trek" away. Only in London can something half a mile away be considered too far. My sis lives in a medium sized village in Bedfordshire and the nearest supermarket the seize of Sainsbury's in New Cross is about 5 miles away. When she was pregnant she managed....

I'm not against the new market being a "£1 a bowl" market, I just think that we already have these...

Anonymous said...

Agreed Headhunter, people round here don't know they're born.

Headhunter said...

"I'd rather jump on a train at Brockley and go to Borough."

Problem with Borough Market is that it has been "discovered" by the tourist trail. If you get there much later than 10am the place is absolutely mobbed with people with backpacks looking for free things to try. Also increasingly there is less and less fresh fruit and meat and more and more "ready to eat" hot meals and snacks catering for the tourists.

I read somewhere that the fresh veg and meat vendors are increasingly finding it unviable to sell at Borough because fewer and fewer people actually go there for raw ingredients, more and more visitors are there simply browsing and buying snacks or lunch to eat outside Southwark Cathedral or by the river...

When lived in Catford in 2000-2001 it was far less busy and you could actually go there on a Sat and do a big shop and then get the train back without having to push and shove through the crowds...

Hungry Old Boy said...

@Brockleymarket Have you thought about contacting http://eat.st/ they have lots of vendors. Maybe they could recommend someone for a weekly slot? or even a rotating slot someone different every week?

Wouldn't mind seeing the meatwagon down there now and again??

Brockley Market said...

We will not be selling wholesale market bought fruit and veg for £1 a bowl.

The ethos of the market will be to bring locally sourced and seasonal food/produce to the people along with involving local business and creatives.

Brockley Market said...

@Hungry Old Boy

Great minds think alike, we have been in contact with them... waiting to hear back from them.

A weekly rotating street food stall is an idea we are working on, there will be other regular hot food also.

Pretty Please said...

Can I ask that you stay open until 2.30 please! I work saturday mornings so don't get back to the area until 2pm.

Pretty Please......

Anonymous said...

I think it's a great idea and as I live on Tressillian road will definitely shop there. At the moment I always go to Blackheath farmers market, I tried to support Hilly Fields but there's only about 3 stalls there now.

Anonymous said...

Locally sourced produce, weed then yeah?

The Cat Man said...

Why not coulgate street?

Have i missed a point somewhere?

mb said...

Presumably because closing a road would be a hassle. The proposed site is a carpark that is not used at the weekend, also I think it's bigger? Simples.

Brockley Nick said...

Why not Coulgate Street?

Because people live there. Because it's the main access to the station. Because it's not very big and its closure would be disruptive to other nearby roads.

Because why should it be? Not everyone in Brockley lives near Brockley Station. Wherever you put it, some poor souls are going to have to walk.

Because on Saturdays, Lewisham College car park is a completely underused resource, so this is very smart thinking.

Because a market at Lewisham College is a much better idea.

L said...

Perhaps the name "Brockley Market" is a bit misleading - it's obviously not that near to people living around Brockley station and towards Crofton Park, but for those of us living just outside Brockley, between Ladywell and St Johns, it's really convenient! I'm looking forward to it.

I don't find the fruit and veg at Lewisham Market very good quality at all (bought cherries last week and they were mouldy by the time I got home...) and I'm hoping this new market will offer better quality produce!

Brockley Nick said...

@L - but it is in Brockley. That's why it's called Brockley market, I guess.

Anonymous said...

I agree about the fruit in lewisham market - need to eat immediately

Brockley is not Brockley station, and I understand houses were knocked to provide that car park so would be good to use the space

mb said...

Most markets need careful shopping, indeed one of the things that Supermarkets promise is consitancy. I've had soem great stuff and real bargains at Deptford but also some shoddy veg that would not have found it's way onto the shelves of a sainsburys. Worth the effort though, some stuff is a fraction of the cost of the big boys.

mk said...

Amazing. Did people complain this much about the Talbot's location when it opened?

Seems to me that the service that people who complain about walking are referring to is also known as OCADO.

Dark Fluid said...

"How many places to drink coffee do we need?"

At least one more I hope, we started the roastery here in Brockley and won a couple of awards for our coffee, it would be great to have a thriving pitch close to home in SE4.

4 hours is a short slot for setting up an espresso machine and we hope a lot of you might enjoy coming and sampling the weeks freshly roasted beans and buying a bag from the counter.

Every one of our coffees can be traced to the farm it was grown at, it's brought in by SE1 based importers and we roast it round the corner, our beans are not expensive unless you compare us to supermarkets own brand.

Please feel free at the launch Saturday to ask, "Is this honest fare?" Doing so will get you a half price beverage!

I love the location, actually quite pleasant to stand in the empty car park, trees, old buildings etc. I think it serves the area well and is great for those heading in from the wider Lewisham area.

Feeling very optimistic about Brockley Market, glad to see support on here. See you soon.

Hungry Nomore said...

I really can't wait for this market to open. I am going to re-post what Tracy has listed as it matches my and my husbands requirements exactly

-Bread/bakery (I don't mind cupcakes but would rather someone with a bit more variety to offer).
-Coffee
-Fishmongers
-Dairy
-Fruit & Veg (a la Blackheath market ideally)
-Deli type affair
-Stone baked pizza van!
-Mulled wine stand (if the weather stays like this) ...open air bar otherwise??
-Plants.

I would also like to see a butchers and some brunch type hot food. I can't believe there is any negativity around this, its a fantastic idea and I and my family will do our best to support it.

Headhunter said...

There's a knack to shopping at Lewisham Market, you have to go regularly and get used to which stalls have the best stuff and get used to giving the veg a "feel" before buying, rather than expecting every piece of fruit to be rock hard AA class as at the supermarket. You just need to learn to be more selective and choose the best stuff

THNick said...

All the talk of bread has made me think - Nick, do you think a successful market here might mean Meze Mangal finish their conversion of the next door shop into a Turkish bakery?

TM said...

No of course not.

They would have to move the container then...........

Hungry Bunny said...

Can't wait for this weekly Market to happen!

Vegetables, Fruit, Flowers, coffee! and something tasty to munch on in my occasional hung over Saturday state, also stuff like homemade pestos and food I can use to knock up something mid week when home late from work.

Tiny Tears said...

Headhunter....sigh

Pregnant or not (which you seem to be making a point of), I'm simply expressing happiness at having a Market nearby rather than one which is 20-25 mins walk away. Shoot me for said happiness. As Nick said also, it's not a zero sum game.

And not once have I suggested they sell £1 bowls of fruit and veg. I think this market could offer something which Lewisham does not. You're getting posts confused and your knickers in a twist Sir.

Anonymous said...

Brockley Market said:

"We will not be selling wholesale market bought fruit and veg for £1 a bowl.

The ethos of the market will be to bring locally sourced and seasonal food/produce to the people along with involving local business and creatives.
"

Ah, conspicuous consumerism! Welcome aboard. £2 an apple.

Anonymous said...

HOORAY FOR A NEW MARKET!

Brockley Market said...

Re: 15.15

The Kent Orchard we were speaking to yesterday sells apples at £1.30 a kilo.

Headhunter said...

Tiny Tears - I'm getting you confused with one of the anons then, you appeared to reply to my post which was a reply to an anon post... I assumed you were the 1st anon finally giving yourself a name....

Avocado said...

I'm all for supporting farmers, and if they can do fresh fruit and veg at reasonable prices (somewhere between Borough Market and Sainsbury's) I'd be happy with that.

I agree with L's comment on Lewisham market "fresh" produce - very variable quality, you do have to look closely to check it's still edible. Does anyone know why so much of it is a bit tired looking?

THNick said...

Avocado - because they buy it ripe rather than under-ripe and tasteless but shiny like the supermarkets?

NAT said...

Have we evolved to a point at which checking what you buy to see whether you like it first is a daunting challenge?

Anonymous said...

I recently moved from Dalston where we were lucky enough to have a veg box scheme run by a social enterprise called Growing Communities. All food was local and seasonal, and it was great! The organisation also runs a weekly farmers market in Stoke Newington with good value produce provided by the same suppliers as the veg box. Was great, and affordable and a good size market. Could do worse than replicate their model.

Also, was lucky to have a fab Turkish greengrocers nearby for excellent quality produce (but not local or organic).

Why did I move south?

Good luck @Brockleymarket, I look forward to visiting.

Anonymous said...

@Anonymous 23:53

I live in Brockley, I purchase a weekly Veg box from an excellent local business and regularly visit a great local Turkish grocery shop.

dor said...

"Why did I move south?"

Probably the ELL.

Headhunter said...

Anonymous 23:53 - There are plenty of local veg box schemes in Brockley, along with the infinite number of pizza take away menus delievered through the door (they all look the same and go straight in the recycling bin), we get 3 or 4 veg box leaflets every week. As for Turkish shops, there's Sultan Foods or whatever it's called on Lewisham Way....

Deptford Pudding said...

When does the market start?

fong said...

Maybe I've no right to an opinion here, seeing as the market is going to b next to my flat, but I'm pretty shocked people think a 20 minute walk is too far.

Great, but ... said...

Brockley Market said:

"We will not be selling wholesale market bought fruit and veg for £1 a bowl.

The ethos of the market will be to bring locally sourced and seasonal food/produce to the people along with involving local business and creatives."


Good luck. Hope it works. Personally I can't really see the need for another source of food which which is more expensive than Sainsbury's plus another craft fair (I presume that is what is meant by non-food produce). I like Deptford Market and car-boot sales (and Greenwich Market for craft/old junk). Don't frequent farmers' markets which is what this sounds like.

So I doubt if I would be going more than once to see if really is like this. But, hey, if it floats somebody's boat, satisfies their needs, and makes enough money to be viable then it will be a good thing.

Mb said...

Exactly, if it s the same stuff as deptford and sainsburys then whats the point? If it sells better or stuff you can't buy there then it may do well. Els and deguststion seem to demonstrate a Market for such produce, I use all of the above. I don't use els as an act of kindness, they sell stuff I want for a price I'm willing to pay. It's a basic retail proposition.

Mrs Monk said...

I'm game - when's it actually starting up?

Anonymous said...

Fong - depends whether it's worth walking 20 mins for.
A great market, yes certainly.

Brockley Market said...

We have our final meeting with Lewisham College next week, we will then be able to announce dates etc here on the site.

Thanks for your support and feed back, the more feedback and comments the more we can get what people would want to shop for.

So suggestions are welcome.

Anonymous said...

yes mr bond i love food

Anonymous said...

Fantastic!

I would buy the following:

Wellbeloved meat if he could have a stall
Fish
Cheese
Cakes
Flowers/plants (as in Columbia Road)
Small leather goods as long as reasonably priced
Olive oils and jams (not sure why those occurred jointly)

This is really good news.

anonymous said...

I love the idea of this market. It's a wonderful thing. I would like some really good bread. Thank you for thinking of this, Brockley Market, and for getting it together to make it happen!

Mb said...

I'm a fully paid up member of the Welbeloved fan club. Great steak pies bit their Cornish pasties should be left well alone. Just sayin'

Anonymous said...

Can't believe no one has thought of registering the anon name before!

Anonymous said...

I am excited by the prospect of having a Brockley Market which sells local/seasonal produce - Costcutter does the trick if you are stuck but I'm never sure how fresh the produce is. I like the idea of plants/flowers - there used to be that place at Brockley Cross. Fish and/or meat stalls would also be welcome. I'll look forward to filling my 'I broccoli Brockley' bag with all sorts of goodies!

Anonymous said...

What is it with Lewisham Council and silly places for markets????

What are the knock on effects or benefits of a market in a college car park? Close to zero.

This is a recession or the tail end of one and we may be about to head into another. Its not a time for placing markets in car parks or parks.

Markets should be placed near shops to encourage the revival and survival of independent shops. Thats absolutely essential.

This market should be in Coulgate Street where it would help the shops near by survive and thrive.

James Wild

Anonymous said...

Coulgate Street is too far for me to walk to...and no parking.

Anonymous said...

hope that anon comment was a joke...
A market is always good but one with possibly no other community benefits...only Lewisham Council would come up with that one.
JW

Brockley Nick said...

Lewisham Council didn't come up with it. It's a private initiative. And a good one.

If you read above, Coulgate St would not be a goer anyway.

Anonymous said...

how is it good to have a market in a car park away from all other shops?

it encourages car use for one and doesn't help independent shops.

Its a silly place for a market during a bad economic period.

Sausages please said...

??? What? The Market will be a place that independent traders can sell there stuff. It's good for the traders. Just because (in your opinion) it's not as good location as another market that isn't actually happening does not mean this one is a bad idea. The college car park is far bigger and is far easier to get to for most people (it's called"brockley" Market but the name is not important) there is also much more room should it expand, which means more small traders will have an outlet.

James, your wrongon almost every count.....actually all counts.

Lizzie said...

just another suggestion; could you keep it open later? us booze hounds / slaves to our jobs like a Saturday lie-in and nowt worse than arriving at 2pm to find everything gone.

Anonymous said...

+1 Longer hours

Anonymous said...

And a start date.......

goovatr said...

went today and it was great except the fish monger who was selling SHARK!! ....
most annoying,....

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