Mob justice - show your support for Lewisham traders

On Saturday, Lewisham residents are being encouraged to shop local to show our support for businesses hit by events this week.

Lewisham shops and market traders were badly affected, not just by the damage inflicted by looters but also through trade lost from having to close early two days in a row.

Lewisham Cllr Mike Harris says:

Let's hold a CARROTMOB for local market traders who have had a difficult week. We'll meet outside the Clock Tower at the top of Lewisham High Street and then do our week's fruit and veg shopping at our fantastic market. That way traders will recoup the income they've lost from having to shut today at 1pm and from yesterday's looting.

I've called it for 12 noon on Saturday. If people can turn up we could also take a photo to send a clear signal out that we're determined to help those in our community affected by this senseless violence.

I spoke to a trader today who was really upset by what happened. This is a nice way of showing our support.

Of course, it wasn't just market traders who were affected but many businesses across Lewisham, so this week, more than ever, please show your support by shopping local whenever possible. If anyone wants to organise any other local carrotmobs, please feel free to use the comments section below and we'll update the thread with the details.

68 comments:

mb said...

Genaro's will be getting some monies in exchange for ravioli.

Osh said...

nice idea, see you Saturday at 12.

Amy said...

Yup, Gennaro's for pasta. Maybe a cheeky dosa at Taste of Lewisham or some pie and mash at Something Fishy or some pide from Levante. Also some lovely fruit and veg from the stall holders. Shop local folks!

Ed said...

Will be there! Have been down there this morning buying my bananas.. an update to my post yesterday is here.

HardliaPenny said...

Good idea and worth the reminder that some people will feel the effect of the last few nights for a long time. I will be there!

Anonymous said...

Brilliant. Mungs before rioters!

"All we are saying...
... is give quiche a chance..."

mb said...

Thats almost funny.

Lou Baker said...

Perhaps we should all donate our old TV's to Currys and trainers to JD Sport?

That would be more appropriate.

Oh - and if any of the kids involved are yours, you should be ashamed of yourself.

You should be criminally culpable for the actions of your vile offspring.

Anonymous said...

I believe several Brockley children were involved. Thoughts?

Anonymous said...

Some of those who looted will be surprised when the police come knocking on there doors

Anonymous said...

"I believe several Brockley children were involved. Thoughts?"

possibly, probably even. By definition they are also londoners and live in Lewisham. and...?

Lou Baker said...

The best thing to do with the looters is not to take them to court - that's a cop out.

The best thing to do is to send a mob to their homes - smash up all their stuff, break their legs and their faces and leave them there in pain.

If they want hospital treatment, they can pay for it.

I guarantee you - they will never loot again.

Conversely, a few months in prison or a court case and a fine - they'll be back out doing it again in a few months.

D said...

The sickening thing about all this is that as soon as the hardworking shopkeeper clears up all the mess and gets back on his feet, he will have to sell his produce to the very people who tried to destroy him.

I thought a good approach would be to brand them all so we know who they are, and let shopkeepers refuse to serve them!

Pete said...

That's a great idea Lou. Assuming you manage to identify the correct people. It's not like the police ever get the wrong people is it?

We live in a civilised country with a proper judicial system. I want them to appear in court and receive whatever the maximum sentence is when they're found guilty.

Anonymous said...

@Lou Are you talking about the bankers? That's not very nice is it? But you're right, politicians and financiers have looted, and they should be made to pay the price.

lb said...

Sounds like a great idea (the carrot one, not Lou's)

Waco. said...

Ah...the rise of the idiots. Luckily when they start sounding off in the pub we can pick up our pint and move away sheepishly.

America has the space that means they can set up little survivalist camps with lots of guns and other weirdness. Normally ending up in flames and/or boarderline incest.

Bored of Lou said...

Nick,

Lou's comments are often provocative and ill thought out. Luckily his latest is so extreem and unpleasent that no sane individual is likley to take it seriously, it may even be a weak attempt at 'satire'

I find it horrific, does it warrant a deletion? it poisons the rest of the thread which is trying to propmte something positive.

Anonymous said...

Just ben listening to a person who has been made homeless in Tottenham by the looters/arsonists.

All he has left are the clothes he is wearing, bank cards and the keys to his flat....which is being demolished.

In the one building 27 households were made homeless and the guy is in trauma and broke down.

He realises the people who burnt him out of his home live in and share his community.

Anonymous said...

Maybe people should consider boycotting the drug dealers, who want an inaffective police force so they can carry on their criminal activitates unhindered.

biff bifferson said...

sounds good. on a moderately connected note does anyone know if exchange coffee is gone for good? last few times ive looked hes not been there

Brockley Nick said...

I agree, this is not the thread for this discussion. I won't delete the posts thus far, but please, on this thread, can we stick to the positive ways in which we can help the community, not how we can exact our terrible revenge.

Thank you for your co-operation.

biff bifferson said...

when you've chucked your fruit and veg in the fridge there's a cracking chinese next to dirty south which had its windows done, and a belting curry house, the darjeeling, by the new flats. both worth spending a few quid in. (the hot and sour soup in the chinese is ace).
now, where's the revenge thread?

Just Askin' said...

Good work with the photos Ed, I'm intrigued, are you the same Ed as the cpz ED? and the Ed that got in a tizz over Crofton Pk library?
How many Eds are there in Brockley?

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Scott said...

Does anybody else feel it may be a good idea to get people back out on the streets in numbers in the evening perhaps meet at the memorial, to show people that the residence are watching peacefully, and put to rest the intimidating atmosphere that occurs after night full, rather than being made prisoners in our own homes. Last night even though it was quite, looking out my window it felt like the dealers, and kids in hoods had the run on the place to my utter disgust, whistling to each other when the cops came. They won't operate so freely or so brazenly if greater numbers and groups of civilised people are about and it adds to the community spirit that needs building further in the area. Just a suggestion

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pippi longstocking said...

quite right, mb.

And now can we do what Nick says and focus on the positive?

I like the sound of carrotmob, though won't there be enormous queues if we all turn up at once?

*thinks* maybe I'll go at 11.30am. No-one else will think of doing that....

Anonymous said...

The Day Today - It's Alright
http://youtu.be/T72TopWbXJg

mb said...

...sorry.

Anonymous said...

Can people PLEASE stop linking drug sellers with looters, entirely different types of people (other than that they might both be black, which is telling of some of the comments here...)

Ratbag said...

We must stop the blatant thievery!
http://i.imgur.com/C5XQm.gif

TM said...

It would be helpful if someone could explain what a Carrotmob is and how it works?

Ronseal said...

@TM:

"Let's hold a CARROTMOB for local market traders who have had a difficult week. We'll meet outside the Clock Tower at the top of Lewisham High Street and then do our week's fruit and veg shopping at our fantastic market."

Erm, I think that's it.

Brockley Nick said...

Turn up at the stated time and place and go shopping. Let me know if you need me to take you through that again ;)

Paddyom said...

I blame society for the way these feral animals behave and for their lack of understanding of right from wrong despite the education which was afforded to them from an early age.

I blame the Tories for these thugs having no morals due to lack of parental guidance and them being obsessed with agressive US 'street' life...to which many of them aspire as it is 'cool'.

Finally I blame the bankers for removing the ability of parents and educaters to dicipline children to such an extent that they have no fear from adults, police, or even the army.

Yes, its all societies, the Tories and the bankers fault....

Scott said...

Anonymous (for what reason?)
"Can people PLEASE stop linking drug sellers with looters."

Insinuating I'm racist, well thats going to help. I didn't insinuate that at all. Your interpretation of my words comes from your warped perspective . I'm talking about good people, and I'm sorry if I feel that people selling drugs on the street probably won't fit the bill, black, white, Chinese or asian. I choose to live in an area that at times can be a beacon of cross cultural relations. I don't relate to the feelings of the looters, but as a consequence the attitude of the dealers is that this is their manner now, I know I watched it play out last night. Of course if the dealers want to join in to great, I'm all for it. Do me a favour pop down and ask for me. Yours, very disappointed with response an won't be coming back here again.

Brockley Dogging Society said...

The BDS will be holding a carrotmob tonight and a cucumbermob tomorrow.

Headhunter said...

Yeah the coffee exchange stall has gone from Lewisham I think. Hasn't been there for a good month or so. With his new found recognition he's probably realised that he can do better somewhere like Borough Market! Lewisham market goers are not the type to be bothered with fancy coffee...

Anonymous said...

It's amazing isn't it. You only have to go down to Lewisham to find those into honest fare, yet come up the road and it's dishonest almost everywhere. Unfair fare :(

TM said...

Perhaps I don't understand because the only veg I eat is the salad on my large Donner and I only get fruit once a year in my santa's stocking...

I Love Brockley Central said...

But man, am I bored by certain phrases that crop up again and again on this blog: honest/dishonest fare, mung, BDS. It's such a load of BS. Anyway, glad the rioting seems to have quietened down leaving Brockley largely alone (touch wood).

Ronseal said...

@TM - aaah, now I understand your confusion. Well, take your Santa stocking with you, maybe a few extra ones too, because they sell most of the fruit and veg by the bowlful and you'll need a means of carrying it home. A wheelbarrow might be best, actually.

Anonymous said...

I like the way some people are blaming the Tories for all this, even though most of the looters seemed to be about 16 years old - which obviously means they've lived all but 3 years of their lives under a labour government.

Now I love a Tory-bashing as much as the next man, but that doesn't make much sense to me.

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I_Heart_Lewisham said...

Why not just shop there anyway??? I lived in Lewisham for most of the last 4 years bar a brief stint in North London. Before that I was a student in New Cross so shopped in Lewisham for cheap fruit and veg. Lewisham Market is a brilliant resource that too few people take advantage of and I really missed it living in Haringay borough where there is nothing like it. Stupid petite bourgeois notion that because of the riots we should support them. NO we should support them all year round. This will help on so many levels - the fruit and veg is seasonal (Nectarines and Strawbs at the moment are amazing and the best I have shopped for this year)you buy only what you can carry/need and it's cheap and they local traders in the local community. For that matter buy your bread, homous and feta from the TFC on the corner of Morley Road far better than you can get in any run of the mill supermarket. And yes to Gennaro's as the Parma Ham is so many levels of awesome. And go to the Library while you're at it. The Lewisham community is for life, not just for the Saturday after the riots.

lb said...

Where did "dishonest fare" come from? Haven't looked at this thing for a while, though "mung" has been going strong since, er, about 1872

Brockley Nick said...

The article does stress that shopping local is always a good idea, but you know, people have lives too.

Brockley Nick said...

@lb - to be honest, I didn't realise you had gone away, I thought you had become "Lou Baker" (same initials).

lb said...

..and yeah, shop at the market every week. Mind you, I think this was put forward mainly as a way of ensuring the traders can make up losses from the past few days' disruption

Headhunter said...

I shop at Lewisham market every single Saturday. Have done for a few years now. I do 2 trips down on the bike, fill a rucksack each time and that's me done with fruit and veg for the following week... So much cheaper than any supermarket.

lb said...

Nick, I'm an unreconstructed Marxist if you remember. Lou may be many things but left wing isn't one of them. Also I seem to recall arguing with him over house painting (?) or the public sector or something equally tedious a while back

Brockley Nick said...

Yes, but sometimes it's hard to tell all you cantankerous old sods with extreme and uncompromising positions apart ;)

Anyway, the honest fare thing's been going about 6 months I'd say. Has the virtue that the person doing it is being "ironic", rather than the mung-users, who are just witless.

lb said...

Fair enough. Anyway, these riots are pretty depressing all round so anything that shows Lewisham is getting on with things and helps foster community cohesion is a great idea in my book, even if only for symbolic value.

TM said...

I'm still not that sure about this.

Is there any synchronised dancing involved?

Ronseal said...

@TM

Yes, you start, and eventually we'll all join in. It'll be a Youtube sensation!!!

TM said...

Oh I won't be there.

Promenade concert to attend.

Religion is to blame by the way.

Words said...

Things are still so volatile, vigilante wise the title "Mob justice" seems a bit odd

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Anonymous said...

jeez, well i found this site quite useful during the 'troubles' now i feel i've stumbled into royston vasey and i'm just not 'local' enough...

thanks for the updates, genuinely appreciated. i'll be back next time local society collapses.

Ladywell Springs said...

Commendable idea. However, I find Lewisham Market on a Saturday to be populated by horrible-looking people with horrible manners and horrible children in tow. I prefer to shop at a Supermarket if I'm honest, at least I can escape down the aisles.

Ladywell Springs said...

"And go to the Library while you're at it." Just beware that Lewisham Library has an oik of a 'elf and safety person (oh, and security) lurking about unplugging people's mobile phones from being charged as laptops are only 'acceptable' to 'forward-thinking' LL.

Anonymous said...

"However, I find Lewisham Market on a Saturday to be populated by horrible-looking people with horrible manners and horrible children in tow. "

And it is crowded. Unlike supermarkets,there is nowhere to park free of charge; unlike local shops it is not within easy walking distance - and I do want (or feel able) to lug lots of heavy vegetables back on a bus (or two buses at twice the price if I want to get near to my front door).

It would be ideal if one lived close by (and there will be lots more people soon living close by judging by those new build high-rises as Lewisham) or even further up the DLR. But for those of us in north-western end of Brockley it is not really a practical alternative to the local shops and supermarkets.

Free parking if you spend, say, more than £20 at Lewisham Market might make it a little more attractive.

Ben said...

Get a bike!

Monkeyboy said...

Five big peaches and five red peppers. £2.70

By the way did so done say "always seasonal" eh? Lewisham Market is great but it's a bog standard one. They buy stuff from whole salers and off load it. Tom were from holland (saw on the boxes) I'm sure it's no more ethical than sainsburys but happy to support them and it's certainly cheaper on the whole. Bit of a faff though, surprise surprise, that's the single biggest lure of supermarkets. In and out in no time.

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