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Slater & King's Ladywell emporium is now open. Glen sent us this photo and describes the shop as 'fantastic':
I'm sure they'll be gutted that some Anonymous knob on the internet doesn't like it.Best of luck to them.
What are they selling? The photograph gives little clue. It looks like pictures, postcards and a few odds and ends on shelves.
Anon (the first in particular, if you are different ones), how can you dismiss a shop based on that photo? Why don't you just go and have a look first? I must say, if it's gifts etc, En Gedi needs to be worried. This shop is in a better location and looks nicer.
whereabouts in Ladywell will it be? what was there before?
Where will it be? What will it sell? Click on the link in the article. That's what links are for.And no need to talk about it in the future tense anymore either, it's now open. That's what this article was for.
it is a gift shop, selling the same mugs as engedi, er so yes they should be worried... why open a shop selling the same thing? Ladywell should be worried as we dont need another empty shop masons has gone, the laundry has gone, bit insensitive really
Er... but this was an empty shop before. There's more than one takeaway, convenience store, hairdressers, pub, cafe and estate agents in Ladywell - perhaps there's also room for 2 gift-y type shops.We'll see.
@ Mondee agree slightley but why should engedi be worried, surley this should bring more people to ladywell village and this is what we need to bring the area to be better than brockley, as long as they are not in direct competion doubt it???? We just have to make sure that we support our local business in the area so that we do not have anymore business closing dont you agree?
Does anyone know what the opening hours are?
Good luck to them, looks like they don't need the money
Anon, my point was that this is a nicer looking shop in a better location than En Gedi so IF they are selling the same kinds of things - which it looks like they are, to some extent - En Gedi will suffer. I'm not saying this is a good thing, obviously. I'm saying it's surprising that the new shop has decided to compete with En Gedi for the same kinds of clients in a small 'village'.
Some people said the same sort of thing when Browns of Brockley opened next to the Broca. And yet there they are side by side, each finding its own audience. No business has first dibs on an area. Presumably Slater reckons they offer something different or better or they wouldn't have bothered opening. Assuming either one of those beliefs is correct, then Ladywell is a net winner.
I went in today and got a free glass of fizz and a mini cupcake, which was rather nice. The guy in there (sorry, name has slipped my mind) said they had inadvertently got a couple of lines the same as En Gedi (the Mr Men mugs) and had spoken to Angela from En Gedi, apologised, compared stockists and we're going to try and avoid treading on each others' toes by selling the same stuff going forward. Everything was very nicely presented and they were very much open to suggestions about what kind of products people wanted to see in there. I'll make an effort to buy cards and wrapping paper from either there or En Gedi, but most of the rest of it, though very nice, was a little beyond my current budget.I imagine they might do quite well from people going to Oscars/Geddes or en route to/from the station and need a gift for someone. It seemed to be slightly more aimed at men than many gift shops are too, ie not all Cath Kidston-esque floral designs. And about half of En Gedi's floorspace is dedicated to women's clothes, so hopefully not too much overlap. Don't forget we also have Sunrise Ceramics and gift shop round the corner on Vicar's Hill, too. It feels like Ladywell Road is slowly on the up with both range of shops and the number of businesses really making an effort to sell what people want to buy, rather than just what the nearest cash and carry stocks. If the rumours of Masons reopening again soon as some kind of gastropub are true, that will be a key site on the road back in use too. And if (big if) the council gets the money from TfL for the streetscape improvements, that could be another boost for the area.A definite improvement on the derelict, pigeon-infested Nightwatch shop that was there for many years. Pleased to feel I played a small part in getting it back into use, by pushing for enforcement action when I was a cllr.Oh, and opening hours I think he said are Mon-Sat 10-7pm, although they will open on some Sundays in the run up to Christmas.I noticed the launderette has closed again - anyone know if it is for good or just being refurbed? The optimistically-named "Ladywell Supermarket" has changed hands recently, too,and the new owners are slowly changing a few things, so potential for improvements there too.
@ sue spoke to the people doing up the laundry and they said that 100%it will not be another laundry, the last tenant was not happy with the treatment of the landlord so he cleared out all the washing machines/dryers.
@Bd. OK, thanks. A sign of the times, perhaps.
Just been in today; it's the grand opening of Slater & King and a vintage craft shop is probably what I'd call it. Mostly screen prints but they sell other things as well. There were greetings cards, wrapping paper, screen prints, 1930s style furniture, framed vintage London bus destination blinds, "eco" homewares, and some artistic clocks. It's also "home to the cupcake king" probably hence the name. All in all I think it's quite a nice addition to Ladywell (also means less trips into Lewisham Town Centre for greetings cards, gift wrap etc.) although some of the products are a bit pricey!
Edis Goldner said: "although some of the products are a bit pricey!"Given the footfall they are likely to have, I suspect there will need to be a hefty mark-up for them to make a profit, so they are bound to be a bit pricey. If you are thinking of gift wrap, cards and the like, buy a couple of years' supply at the same time when you are in Lewisham for some other purpose. Also has the advantage that you won't be caught out in an emergency.
What a fantastic and welcome addition Slater & King's new shop is to Ladywell Village. I was spoilt for choice for delightful and charming things to buy. So many gift ideas but I decided to treat myself!!!!! If you haven't been down for a look do go and see for yourself.....
Dear all - thank you to everyone who visited our shop for our opening today and thank you for all the comments here, both positive and negative. This is a new venture for us and we obviously want to make it work for ourselves (of course) but also to hopefully add something to the local area. We were absolutely mortified to find out this morning that we had some items the same as En Gedi which was certainly not our intention. We have spoken with Angela and apologised, and tentatively started to compare notes about suppliers. Some suppliers that we use have checked to see if they already have their goods in the area. It seems that one or two of the larger companies don't do this, hence the mistake on our part. I hope that we will be able to continue to discuss what each of us stock so that we don't overlap, and that we can compliment each other rather than clash.In the run up to Christmas we will be adding to our stock, so please come in and say hello!
"we obviously want to make it work for ourselves..."How much market research have you done? El's kitchen, Brockley Market new businessses have talked to potential customers via this blog, asking us what we want to buy and stuff.
Market research can only tell you so much. I like to be surprised/see stuff I haven't seen before in gift shops, so wouldn't want to be too prescriptive about what they stocked. Provided they have things that suit a variety of budgets that's fine by me.
Its a lovley shop and good luck to them, its clear that not much market research was done (if any) even tescos would not open a tescos directly oposite one another, or would they? lets hope that they keep their word and work with the other shop in order to keep things different
No but tescos would open opposite another grocers, take always open next to their takes always , corals open opposite William hill. If there is demand and if the offering is sufficiently varied it will be fine. Opening any shop selling stuff that is in the "discretionary spend" area in the current climate is a bold move though? Mind you, brockley market demonstrates that theres demand for premium stuff, Good luck
I think it's a lovely shop and a fantastic addition to Ladywell. I will definitely be buying cards and wrapping paper here and as for the art, it's not cheap but in my opinion is not too expensive either. I will be buying a print. I get really fed up of a lot of people on this blog being so negative about everything.How can you say it looks dire when for one you haven't even been in, and secondly it was previously a boarded up pigeon infested eyesore!!I would like to see a few more gifts in the £10-£20 price bracket. Maybe vintage style toys? I think Jumping Bean in Honor Oak has got it spot on.Good luck to Slater and King, I think your shop is great.
Tried to pop in yesterday afternoon but it was closed. Look great from the outside though.
and can I just add.. what would be the point of Slater and King doing market research on this site? They already know you all want non-mung honest fare whatever that is.It's just like the bashing that Oscars got when it opened.. 'ooh the coffee is so overpriced, especially when you can buy a cup of tea in a polystyrene cup in Rumbles for 2p or even better get a jumbo jar of cheap arse instant coffee from the pound shop and stay at home' ps. well done Sue for bringing this shop back into use
Went in the shop and had a look around and was really impressed with the quality of items particularly the cool 70's metal desk and some of the Dennis the menace prints. Staff were also really helpful, friendly and enthusiastic. Personally I think it can only be good for the area. Good luck, I will be back for some Christmas items.
Market research is a waste of time. Whereas stereotyping is much more productive.
Sounds perfect for Xmas and birthdays....and for myself. Can't wait to have a look. Wishing you the best of luck!
'Honest fare', it turns out, consists of chicken imported from the orient and deep fried.Someone posted that and none of the honest fare brigade popped up to challenge it. Up to that point I had wondered what the term could possibly mean as well.When I say 'honest fare brigade', there are two of them at most.
I predict it may or may not close. (I like to hedge my bets)
Popped in yesterday, excellent little shop, some nice things for sale, however, I suspect the small size of the shop may be a bit of a handicap - this is a browsing shop and there isn't much room to put in the amount of goods you need to 'browse' for more than a minute or two. All that said I wish them the very best of luck.(Shop signage on the exterior, due to colour, is almost unreadable though . . .)
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