New parking restrictions planned across the area

Lewisham Council is planning to introduce a number of new parking restrictions in the area, seemingly to improve sight lines and access for pedestrians and cyclists. We were sent the list by Alison, who lives on Ewhurst Road and is a little puzzled by the plans to restrict parking near Ladywell Fields, which she says will cost a few spaces for seemingly little benefit.

If the plans go ahead, there will be no waiting at any time at:

- Bovill Rd both sides within 1m of Gabriel Street south kerb line
- Brockley Rise east side within 10m of junction Lowther Hill
- Brockley View east side 5m length at Blythe Hill Fields path access point opposite junction Duncombe Hill
- Courthill Road southwest side adjacent to either side of traffic island outside 128 and 156 Courthill Road
- Crofton Park Rd west side 41m length spanning Sevenoaks Road access point opposite junction Ewhurst Road
- Crofton Prak Road east side within 21m north and 16,m south of junction Ewhurst Road
- Ewhurst Road both sides within 5m of junction Crofton Park Road
- Ewhurst Road east side 7.5m length at Ladywell Fields path access point adjacent 115 Ewhurst Road
- Gabriel St south side within 5m junction Bovill Road
- Gabriel St south side within 5m east of junction Garthorne Road
- Garthorne Road southeast side within 4.5m southwest of junction Gabriel St
- Grierson Road northwest side 3.3 length and 6.6m from junction Honor Oak Park
- Grierson Road southeast side 1.8m length 6.6m from junction Honor Oak Park
- Lowther Hill both sides within 10m of junction Brockley Rise
- Manor Lane west side 10m length at network rail site access point between the two rail-over-the-road bridges between junctions with Fernbrook Road and Milbrough Crescent
-Montacute Road northwest side 3.2m length at Blythe Hill Fields path access point between 40 and 42 Montacute Road

The plans, which were advertised in the Mercury(!), can be commented on by:

"Writing to Lewisham Transport Policy & Development, Wearside Service Centre, Wearside Road, SE13 7EZ, to arrive not later than 21 days from the date of publication of this notice (Jan 4th 2012)."

32 comments:

Anonymous said...

I think it's more important to get parking restrictions around Brockley station - that's where there is high pedestrian usage!

Anonymous said...

Pedestrians don't park.

Anonymous said...

"improve sight lines and access for pedestrians and cyclists"

Anonymous said...

A quick scan of this list & they seem pretty sensible to me. Most are quite obviously not good parking spaces anyway: Ewhurst/Sevenoaks/Crofton Park Rd junction i know well - you quite often get some plonker parking right across the cycle lane access through Ewhurst/Sevenoaks - it would be great it that was enforced, & when the spots by the shops are busy, people park right up to the very junction corner, where the bollards are, making it near impossible for anyone (pedestrians/cyclists/car users) to safely negotiate the corner. The spot on Ewhurst when the entry to Ladywell Fields is, is always totally blocked by cars too - though i get the impression someone who lives there runs a mechanic type business from there (a permanently parked recovery van on the road & far more cars than the number of houses)...

D said...

They do seem sensible enough, but I cant help agreeing with the first anon that there are probably more pressing areas that they could be focussing on. These are all quiet residential streets.
As for sight lines for cyclists - they might be able to see better if some of them bothered to put lights on their bikes.

Anonymous said...

Prioritise the station.

Anonymous said...

We will fight this.

Brockley Kipper said...

I would guess some of these streets are prime routes for school kids to walk to school so hence the choice made by the council.

I agree that there are other Brockley areas that can do with some attention like this.

Having cycled through the Ewhurst/Sevenoaks junction daily I welcome the move to tidy the parking up there.

even with lights on my bike I find the parked cars right on the junctions a pain and an unnecessary risk.

CPZ now said...

CPZ at the station, brockley cross and streets around is needed. Very congested area with two schools...

Anonymous said...

CPZ now: Agreed!

Crofton Cath said...

Firstly I hope this doesn't have a knock on effect for the shops on Ewhurst Road. Secondly having lived in a CPZ for 13 years before moving to Lewisham I 'd prefer not to have them.

But I guess if it really will make things safer for kiddies and cyclists so be it - but I didn't think Crofton Park Road / Ewhurst Road was particularly dangerous.

RacingAbout said...

No CPZ round the station please, if pedestraions look when they cross the Foxberry Rd that would reduce the problems. About half don't

Anonymous said...

On a slightly diff note, I thought DM vans were supposed to have disappeared? Saw two parked on Coulgate St on Sunday evening.

Brockley Nick said...

You sure they weren't the very-similar-looking ACE vans?

Parking Management said...

This is understandably a delicate issue. There has to be a balance struck between ensuring that the areas is completely safe for pedestrians, but that can also accommodate the needs of local motorists.

Anonymous said...

I live on St. Asaph Rd, where everyone parks with 2 wheels on the pavement otherwise no one can get down the road. I drove to a friend on Upper Brockley Rd and did the same for the the same reason and I have £130 parking ticket!? I have never heard of this before why is no one ever ticketed on St. Asaph then?

No to CPZ! said...

@Anon 15:05

Of course you got a ticket, because all council parking departments are money grabbing monsters with no rhyme or reason to half their tickets. Basically another reason why we don't want a CPZ.

Stating the bleeding obvious said...

We should base ALL laws on what "everyone else does" ....well everyone that is ignorant off, or deliberately flouting the regs.

Bet you won't park like that again, job done.

NAT said...

SBO You're saying that you'd rather the traffic couldn't get by?

And your passion for justice is affecting your spelling a little.

Calm down.

Stating the bleedin obvious said...

Mat, we're occupying a similar rhetorical battlefield. I'd rather prams could negotiate the pavement. Don't park on the pavement, it's page one of the highway code. Park where you are allowed to park and everyone is a winner.

Feel free to poin out grammatical or spelling errors and leave the central argument untouched.

MAT said...

Yes SBO but what the Anon with the whopping fine was alluding to was a system, very much in evidence, where you will be penalised for pavement parking on some streets and not on others.

Whatever the Highway code has to say.

And its NAT really but just to show I'm not hung up on details which are secondary to the main thrust of the arguement...

NAT said...

Damn, spelled argument wrong myself!

I'd add BTW that its pretty likely that someone that uses their parking common sense to avoid creating a road obstruction is likely the type to endevaour to keep the footpath passable as well.

Even more obviouser said...

Mat, nat or woteva. We're both guessing here but he seems to have known that it's illegal to park with his wheels on the pavement. He did a quick mental calculation that the likelyhood of being caught was low based on empirical evidence that it is not something seemingly enforced with any vigour. Furthermore he seemed surprised at the size of the penalty.

1) he flipped a coin and called wrong
2) he should perhaps have researched the fine so that he could have judged whether the chance in (1) was worth taking

A double fail of monumental proportions.

NAT said...

Obvious to you maybe, why do you start out by blandly ignoring the proffered reason for the pavement parking and instead attribute to poor anon the worst of motives.
It didn't seem like it was a meaningless moan about a fine.

There's a bigger picture (if only slightly so) to do with common sense and traffic flow and even application of the law.

I think we're all pretty up to speed with the reason for parking byelaws.

Tamsin said...

In some streets you can definitely park with wheels on the pavement and the pavements are marked with white lines to show it. Some I think it is nodded through. Very bad luck to get caught like that. I hope you did not actually have to pay £130 but could get away with a lesser amount as a "reward" for prompt payment.

So DON'T ASSUME YOU CAN PARK ON THE PAVEMENT! easy said...

Ah.... "common sense" the last refuge of the annoyed. H&S gone mad etc....

Anonymous said...

£130 is disproportionate to the offense, he'd get a smaller fine for speeding. But then the council wouldn't fine him for speeding.

Anonymous said...

I think you mean "the council couldnt fine him for speeding"

Fined and angry... said...

I actually didn't know that it was illegal to park with any wheels on the pavement whilst not causing an obstruction on road or pavement. So it wasn't a considered risk.

The fact that at the last two houses I have lived at it has been necessary to do this and on UBR 5 other cars had done the same I assumed it was fine.

After Googling a 'Code 62' it's obvious that it is a completely arbitrary system with the only sign required being a notice in a local paper potentially many years previously.

If parking on the pavement is so illegal why do I pass by about 50 cars a day in Brockley that have done the same?

patrick1971 said...

Certainly on Manwood Road all cars park with two wheels on the pavement on both sides. Never seen anyone get a ticket, and if you were new to the street you'd just assume this was the right thing to do.

D said...

Though on Manwood we do have council-painted white lines halfway across the pavement that tell everyone it's ok to park like that.

Anonymous said...

"If parking on the pavement is so illegal why do I pass by about 50 cars a day in Brockley that have done the same?"

The assumption should be that it's illegal unless you see an explicit sign saying otherwise. They would be within their rights to fine the other 50, no doubt some would then argue that would be an over zealous enforcement of the law.

It's illegal to drive o. The motorway over 70mph, you can have that advice for free. They occasionally prosecute for that even if it's on an half empty stretch at three in the morning. It reminds people that it's illegal and keeps a cap on it.

You live and learn.

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