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I find greasy spoons are like Kebab shops all very similar.I am however a sucker for both.Having just enjoyed a six pound lunch at the Talbot I would also recommend that.
I guess there are folk hereabouts who are so desperate to appear unpretentious that they relentlessly embrace the mediocre.I am sure the greasy spoons of Brockley along with the kebab shops churn out plenty of belly filling portions of processed food for modest prices.They are unremarkable and not worthy of comment except maybe a burb.The sad fact is that the shopping parades of this neighbourhood have little to offer but comfort food and this is a shame.Characterless lock ups full of plastic seats reheating pre-cooked cheap eats for the undemanding palates of those for whom economy is the deciding factor.We have three restaurants in the area derelict or on their last legs or about to close: La Lanterna, Toads Mouth and Thai Thai and one that is doing so much business, you cannot get a seat.Something has got to give, where are these market forces when you want them?
Anon 18:15Pretentious git.
What an excellent and refreshing change to see BC reviewing places where you can get a proper feed for once, as opposed to a small slice of vegetarian quiche or a quail's egg in a taragon jus...Thank you Nick for turning over a new leaf for 2012. May good, honest establishments such as these prevail and leave the faddy stuff to the Michelin book.
Industrial grade tea bags, reheated part pre-cooked sausages, oversweet beans and over salty bacon.There is nothing good or honest about a greasy spoon it is simply cheap.Sometimes they can do a passable omlette, but with oven chips.Maybe we can invert our snobbery and try to find the rankest breakfast in the area. I am sure Brockley can lower itself to the challenge.Some of you lot will no doubt be straight round there proclaiming such grim snap as a wonderful example of proletarian integrity - calories untroubled by fancy affectation.It is a terrible conclusion to contemplate by I have come to realise an awful truth: the French have the right idea about food.Where they hold that every Frenchman has the right to dine like a King. The English simply comdemn anything that suggests the diner is in anyway superior. Anything delicate, tasty or remotely fancy is eyed suspiciously as lacking integrity.The conservatism of the working mans palate is not a virtue, it is an embarrassment and it simply encourages low standards.
Anon: "There is nothing good or honest about a greasy spoon it is simply cheap."That sounds simply like yourdefinition of a greasy spoon. Cheap cafes can be good and honest. Expensive ones can be bad and pretentious. In fact, they are more likely to be pretentious: they charge a premium for faddery and fakery. Why should a bit of meat in a burger with a few lettuce leaves costing a tenner be praised to high heaven whilst two sausages, chips and peas with a cup of tea for a fiver be sneered at?
Premium? Reckon I could buy that little list from Iceland for about 80p. All relative. Michelin don't really do fads, some have been in since at least 1933 and not many close down.
Not many close down because there is always a plentiful supply of pretentious people with money (expense accounts) to keep them ticking over.
I don't know the Top Chef Cafe, so I can't speak to that. But IMO the Sunrise does a better breakfast than the College Cafe.RegardsLuke
Thanks Luke, this was my question precisely as I live between the two. Do you think it's comparable to Goldsmiths Cafe?
I was disappointed with College Cafe. Esp when the guy gave me two slices of bread with it, rather than toast. Who would do such a thing? Honestly...I do like Central Cafe though. £6 for the veggie breakfast - enough food for two days...
Who eats a veggie breakfast? This isn't the 1970s and you're not Neil off The Young Ones..
"Not many close down because there is always a plentiful supply of pretentious people with money (expense accounts) to keep them ticking over"Ooof, can we open a window please? The stench of envy mixed with cheap bangers is quite rank in here.
"Neil of the Young Ones"? A thirty year old reference and you're having a go at someone for being dated.
Who eats a vegetarian breakfast? Vegetarians? Wasn't aware that was a fad that died out in the 1970s (The Young Ones was the 80s, btw).
Veggie breakfasts are a sensible option.They avoid the meat based products commonly found in these cafes which can be of dubious provenance.I guess some of you do not care much for taste or quality, perhaps judging a breakfast by price alone and the ease with which it slithers down to the gullet.I shall visit these cafes in the hope that I shall find value without compromising quality.
I'd also like to echo the thanks on here towards Nick - great to see decent local food on here for once rather than the artisan nonsense.
Decent local food? It comes from East Anglian meat packing factories and processing plants.There is no telling what is in the sausages.Neither honest or local.If one of these cafes served up Wellbeloved of Deptford sausages and bacon it would fit that description, but that seems very unlikely.I do not see the point of reviewing these plastic chair and formica places unless they are in someway special.They are all much the same, cheap and quite unremarkable.What next: a review of fried chicken shops?
Anon@18:23 Agree with you about the 'local' bit. That's just tosh.But caffs are comparable, precisely because they all play by the same rules, and so any little innovation or edge in quality is noteworthy.If they're comparable then they're reviewable, or is there another reason for treating them as anything other than budget restaurants?Chicken shops might be harder to make a case for.Kebab shops, regardless of the nutritional excellence of the Shish, who could be arsked? The stuff all falls out of the side once its raised into position. Like an early unsuccessful prototype of the Earl of Sandwiches big idea...your kebab.
Posted this before. The definitive guide to your greasy spoon based on the authors standard "eggs bacon chips & beans" test.http://russelldavies.typepad.com/eggbaconchipsandbeans/SE postcodes poorly represented.interesting that there are actually very few reviews on this thread. Sounds like a cafe, we all know what a cafe offers. Perfectly fine, I use them regularly but do they need constant reviews? No, not really.
I had a lovely bit of egg and crusty bread in Top Chef this morning and continue to be amazed by outstanding service in there.
Nail, on the head hit it NAT.Why do Kebab shops slit the Pitta down the middle rather than on the edge like normal people?
@TM, I never guessed there was a way of splitting the pitta which would not compromise the structural integrity of the kebab. I just thought it was flawed food technology.Shame you can't post up a diagram.
I will draw you a diagram tonight NAT, on the back of a Harvey's beer mat....
Gulens don't even attempt to make a kebab pickupable, think that's the term. They just bung it in a polystyrene box. Tasty though, and honest.
Tonight TM I will be in Berlin, to compare Wursts.
MB, dont know about honest, theres something fundamentally iffy about a snack meant to be eaten on the way home which requires further utensils (and a napkin by the sound of it).A pitiful failure in its own terms or the greatest food fraud perpetrated on the peripatetic public?
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