Gaza Halal Meat Centre, Lewisham Way


Brockley photographer Joel Knight has provided this review (and shot) of the Gaza Halal Food Centre, 173 Lewisham Way:

Never judge a book by its cover; The Halal Meat Centre on Lewisham Way is really well stocked and managed little Brockley Gem - if you enjoy cooking middle eastern/north african/spanish/moro food then this is the place for you - Well priced dried beans and lentils, olive oils, stuffed vine leaves, the best and freshest pitta breads, date filled cookies (better than fig rolls I enjoyed as a kid), tahini etc etc etc. Most importantly, the Butcher and shop attendant are both really helpful, knowledgeable and friendly.

55 comments:

Tressilliana said...

That's good to know. I'd also like to mention that the shop opposite Portland (soon to be Coral) that sells greengrocery (sorry, can't remember its name) had some large, beautiful lemons and a bottle of rosewater when other shops had none of either.

Anonymous said...

a great place. An excellent and knowledgable butcher , good prices , and the lamb is delicious

Bored of Winter said...

Seconded on the lamb, everytime I do a BBQ I pick up a stack of chops at really good prices. The other stuff is great value too.

Anonymous said...

where is the word Gaza? I don't see it...

eyeless in gaza said...

^well spotted

Headhunter said...

It sounds great but I baulk at buying from a butcher which advertises itself as a halal meat centre because I just can't quite get over the cruelty involved in raising and killing halal meat...

There are quite a few similar butchers down in Lewisham. All of them have massive selections of (some of it halal) meat in various cuts. They also sell great ranges of pulses, lentils and nuts etc at prices way cheaper than the supermarkets or Holland & Barrett.

A more local option for pulses, bulgar wheat etc etc is Sultan Foods on Lewisham Way. Apart from the sometimes grumpy staff it sells some interesting foodstuff

Brockley and New Cross Bags said...

I went in there once to my some coconut milk, had very good service, but was a bit perplexed by the person serving me balancing some kind of long vegetable on his head and saying it looked like my haircut. At the time I was rocking a short back and sides (I got rid of the mohawk in 2003) so I'm not quite sure what he was getting at. Couldn't complain about the coconut milk though.

Brockley and New Cross Bags said...

*"buy" not "my"

jerome said...

Have to agree with Headhunter - I'm afraid their front sign boast of "100% unstunned" meat is something I can't support.

Fidgad said...

I was also going to observe that anyone interested in Animal Welfare should read the shop sign however others beat me to it.

Anonymous said...

Animal welfare becomes less of a concern when the animal itself is dead.

huh? said...

@Anon 14.28. What ARE you talking about? Are you saying it's OK to put an animal through terrible suffering so long as it ends up dead??

Anonymous said...

Perhaps it's not a boast. It's just information. Some meat certified halal has been stunned first, they are explicitly stating theirs hasn't. That's good for the consumer, you can then choose whether to buy or avoid.

Anonymous said...

Not so good for the animal.

Mondee said...

Exactly anon. I would not support or endorse the buying of unstunned meat.

Mead is Murder said...

It's a nice little shop - I like the people in there and we often buy baking potatoes from them.

But halal meat is not acceptable to me. Making animals suffer needlessly in the name of superstition is hopeless.

Anonymous said...

I seem to remember someone telling me that not stunning the meat first "improves the flavour".

Also, I have to say, if that is the meat place near the picture framers in Lewisham way *(not 100% sure it is)* then I once saw them in the side road pulling carcasses out of a van, that were piled up on the floor of it, by standing on them to get to the others, then slinging them into a shopping trolley to wheel inside. It didn't look like a very hygienic process.

Anonymous said...

re above comment: just looked it up on the map and the meat trampling /slinging halal meat place is further down, in Loampit Hill so er, avoid that one not the lovely (apart from the lack of stunning) Gaza Halal Meat Centre who I'm sure would never do such a thing...

Anonymous said...

There's nothing wrong with a bit of good, honest halal meat. Even KFC employee the practice - so outragees can calm down.

http://kfc.co.uk/about-kfc/halal

Mondee said...

Yes, except that KFC specify that their meat is stunned for welfare reasons. So not the same at all.

Anonymous said...

I've never been in and never will - I can't support a business selling halal meat. Any other dubious practices we'd like to adopt from abroad?

Anonymous said...

Agree with Anon 23:41: rather than support these places we should boycott them. Not just refuse to buy meat there, but refuse to buy anything. There are enough other places that sell food around that nobody who cares about animals (or thinks that religious slaughtering of animals is tosh) should need go in there, ever.

Welcome to 2012 said...

Ok, enough now. You don't like halal.i get it. I guess you don't like battery eggs either, but no need to rant and rave about cost cutter for selling them. Don't buy it. Move on. Did you read the review? Plenty of other stuff to buy.

NAT said...

he UK Farm Animal Welfare Council says that the method by which Kosher and Halal meat is produced causes severe suffering to animals and it should be banned immediately.[5] According to FAWC it can take up to two minutes for cattle to bleed to death, thus amounting to animal abuse. Compassion in World Farming also supported the recommendation saying "We believe that the law must be changed to require all animals to be stunned before slaughter."[6][7] The UK government rejected its recommendations.

Various research papers on cattle slaughter collected by Compassion In World Farming mention that "after the throat is cut, large clots can form at the severed ends of the carotid arteries, leading to occlusion of the wound (or "ballooning" as it is known in the slaughtering trade). Nick Cohen wrote in the New Statesman, "Occlusions slow blood loss from the carotids and delay the decline in blood pressure that prevents the suffering brain from blacking out. In one group of calves, 62.5 per cent suffered from ballooning. Even if the slaughterman is a master of his craft and the cut to the neck is clean, blood is carried to the brain by vertebral arteries and it keeps cattle conscious of their pain." [

Tamsin said...

A thought, though. It is on a much smaller scale. Is there any published data on the distances that halal slaughtered animals have to travel to slaughterhouse? A usual non-intended consequence of well-intentioned legislation is that with the closure of local abbatoires the animals may be nicely stunned before they are actually killed but do go through a minor hell to get to that point.

Mondee said...

Hence why I'm going to stick to buying my meat from butchers who know the provenance and welfare standards of the meat they're selling. I don't care if halal meat is cheaper! I'd rather eat happy meat, less often.

Anonymous said...

Isn't the welfare of animals you kill sort of a bit... academic?

NAT said...

No.

NAT said...

Tamsin, the HMC registered abbatoirs are fewer and further between.

I'm supposing that means greater distances to travel for animals rather than its opposite.

Anonymous said...

@Welcome to 2012: You said " Did you read the review? Plenty of other stuff to buy."

Did you read what I said? Boycott it, don't buy anything there.

By supporting them you are supporting their continuing sale of the products of cruel welfare practices.

Paul Bell said...

Unstunned meat is cruel, barbaric and is unacceptable. Brockley Central should not be advertising animal cruelty in whatever form. If you don't believe me then ask yourself this simple question:

Would you rather be unaware of your throat being cut and bleeding to death or perfectly conscious to the pain?

Anonymous said...

I'd rather not be killed.

Anonymous said...

Paul

Often stunning doesn't knock out the animal anyway. There are plenty of undercover videos of abattoir workers kicking, punching and being generally evil to the animals.

The whole process of meat production is important, the "Christian" west fails at the first hurdle with utterly appalling factory farming to feed insatiable meat appetites of millions.

If you are worried at at all about cruelty to animals then don't eat meat and boycott every shop that sells it.

Jerome said...

Anon "Isn't the welfare of animals you kill sort of a bit... academic?"

No.

NAT said...

Paul Bell, yes yes thats all quite emotive stuff, no doubt, but unnessecary as there's near unanimity on this one. Just two points you might like to pick up on:

Was your party the party of government that rejected the reccomendations of the UK Farm Animal Welfare Commitee?

In what way is Brockley Central 'advertising animal cruelty' other than publicising the existence of a local business and allowing a forum for whatever issues its existence might give rise to?

Anonymous said...

These guys are only looking to sell honest fare, just like Supercuts, and look how they were treated.

Anonymous said...

@NAT: You ask "In what way is Brockley Central 'advertising animal cruelty' ".
It has published a review praising a business that advertises itself as selling "unstunned meat". It calls it "a little gem" and says the "this is the place for you".

That certainly looks like promoting a business that advertised animal cruelty even if it isn't intentionally advertising it.

Luckily there are enough sane people on this website to notice and counter the advertising with the necessary adverse publicity. Unfortunately it won't be enough to get them to change their policy or go bust. We can only hope.

Brockley Nick said...

It's not an ad, it's a reader review. One that doesn't mention the meat btw.

Anonymous said...

Animal suffering is wrong if you want a butchers go to Drings in Greenwich. I wish these place would go bust! Please do support them.

Anonymous said...

Condemning one method of animal slaughter but condoning another is disingenuous. Remember the Gresham Ducks last year, sold by the saintly Waitrose?

Anonymous said...

Sorry that should have been Gressingham Ducks.

Pax said...

Most animals breed for slaughter suffer to some degree. Boycotting a shop because of halal meat is just Islamophobic rubbish, you should be ashamed.

Danja said...

It is an objection to a needlessly brutal custom based on a minority interpretation of some imaginary sky-god's supposed edicts. But, it isn't Islamophobic, any more than the same objection to kosher slaughter is anti-semitic. In fact, less, as there is more acceptance of pre-stunning in Halal than there is in Kosher.

The "all animals bred for food suffer" line is true in a trite sense. But it does not follow that anything goes unless you are a vegetarian. What if my sky-god demanded that my meat come from animals which had their eyes pulled out and were then crucified for a few days before being jointed while alive. Would that be acceptable to the moral relativists here? In the end, it's all dead meat, right?

Anonymous said...

I feel like getting pre-stunned, halal slaughtered just because of the reactions on this thread.....

Mungo said...

I only eat pre-stunned, halal, kosher, organic, free range and fair trade, freedom-farmed vegan vegetarian and gluten/wheat-free, non-dairy mung beans.

I am Brockley.

Anonymous said...

On the subject of animal cruelty, I had breakfast in the Toads Mouth Too the other day and noticed on the way out that they were using eggs from caged hens. It made me feel sick that I'd just eaten two of them as part of a 'veggie' breakfast.

Anonymous said...

I always assume it's caged hen eggs unless it says otherwise. I was pleasantly surprised to notice free range boxes out the back of Brockley Mess a while back, though - why on earth they don't shout it out on the menu beats me.

NAT said...

16:56, you can always pop next door to The Barge where there are free range eggs on the menu.

bigfried said...

Anothe rvote agianst this hideous place. Boasting 'unstunned meat' - so basically I assume it is supposed to somehow be better to eat and don't worry about the animal suffering. That's abhorrent. Boycott this place.

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Perhaps it's not a boast. It's just information. Some meat certified halal has been stunned first, they are explicitly stating theirs hasn't. That's good for the consumer, you can then choose whether to buy or avoid.
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I went in there once to my some coconut milk, had very good service, but was a bit perplexed by the person serving me balancing some kind of long vegetable on his head and saying it looked like my haircut. At the time I was rocking a short back and sides (I got rid of the mohawk in 2003) so I'm not quite sure what he was getting at. Couldn't complain about the coconut milk though.
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sarah said...

they changed the name now to halal meat centre. they use to have brilliant Regal rusk and madeira cakes. and a to quality 1 litre rivonia sauces for £2. 

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