Brockley allotments up for sale

BC reader K writes:

I've just received a flyer drawing my attention to this lot coming up for auction - which is a huge chunk of the allotments between the train tracks and St Norbert Road:

The property runs adjacent to St Norbert Road to the south of its junction with Endwell Road. Local shops are available close by with the further and more extensive facilities of both Lewisham, Catford and East Dulwich also being within reach. Rail services run from Crofton Park Station located approximately 0.5 miles to the south and Endwell Road (B2142) provides access to the B218 and in turn the A20. Description The property comprises a broadly rectangular site which extends to approximately 0.249 hectares (0.616 acres). Accommodation Site Area approximately 0.249 Hectares (0.616 Acres)

It's not clear whether there is any vehicular access, other than via the plot next door - which recently gained planning permission for development as flats - which may explain the guide price. Having made some inquiries it seems there may be some protections in place for the allotments association, but being sure of this would require someone with greater expertise in property documentation than me.

I wondered whether BC readers could shed any light?

27 comments:

CPR said...

Whilst we are on the subject of land for sale..

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-34417567.html

Large plot of land for sale near honor Oak park with planning app (but not yet approval) for 5 no. 2 bedroom and 4 no. 1bedroom apartments alongside 4 no. commercial units.

The East London Regeneration effect continues ;-)

Percy said...

Was expecting this for a while. I used to have an allotment here, as it was privately owned there was usually no waiting list, you just had to know someone with an allotment on it. It was only £20 a year for a massive space I had apple trees and blackberries just growing wild.

The south end of it is completely wild and basically woodland, but I guess there's no protection on that, there's a footpath from that end which I guess they can create access from.

Another bit of land westside to get turned into a carbuncle no doubt. Bearing in mind the enormous waiting list to get a council allotment it's very sad.

interested local said...

Hmm, at that price, it's tempting, but I'm sure it will go for closer to £100k than the £20k guide price, don't you think? Can anyone thing of anything clever to do with the land? What about creating a new park or a little city farm, or is it too small or too inaccessible? I'm genuinely interested.

Anonymous said...

perfect site for a block of crappy flats

Anonymous said...

Yeah ... more council flats with bad design .. woop woop...

Fagash Lil said...

It's not council flats, it's "social housing" which makes it OK. Like "social security".

TM said...

What is it zoned for in the local plan and does it have vehicle access? are the crucial questions.

Anonymous said...

Bad design is bad - period. The private sector is not exactly renown for its adherence to excellence in housing provision. Not sure why council, social or whatever has to do with it. Unless of course you're a massive snob who think anyone who can't raise a £200k mortgage is a different breed and should be condemned to live in a mouldering box.

Anonymous said...

not a snob - seriously, have you seen the overground at 8:00am these days? More apartments - yep ... smart.

Brockley Cross said...

It's smallish and pretty inaccessible. And, interestingly by the look of the picture, doesn't cover the full area of the current allotments.

Anonymous said...

I might sell a piece of my garden for £20k ... you can have it, but you can never access it. Sound ok?

Brockley Cross said...

There is a right of access across the new development site to the allotments which is used by current allotment-users, but it's not clear whether it's ever used for vehicles and whether it could be.

Anonymous said...

Yes, bad housing. That's all social housing is it? Or was that an assumption?

Not more crappy Quadrant homes said...

If we could get it for the estimated price I'd be interested in going in with local people to keep it allotments.

urbansurgery said...

Councils are pretty hamstrung by national legislation and largely prevented from selling allotments (improbable not impossible)

Private allotments are either there by historical chance ir subject to restrictive covenants.

20k suggests its acknowledged that any attempt to get permissuon will be a risky punt. It would never be free and 20k should cover the conceyancing.

Anonymous said...

If you search the Lewisham Planning website all will be revealed DC/10/73341/X dated 2010.

This is possibly the land outlined in blue in that application?

Brockley Cross said...

That planning application refers to the site next door - where the new development is taking place. Unless I'm missing something I don't think it tells us much about the current plot, except that the Allotments will get a new access route via the new development

whitie said...

im gonna buy it, build a wall round it and wash my balls in my tin bath every morning.

Anonymous said...

The planning application shows how road access to the site could be possible?

The sale description refers to possible 'development', no mention of any restrictions regarding the allotments.

The planning application points out the local urban plan has the strip of landed as suitable for development/alternative use.

The planning application also includes the possibility of an alternative access to the station.

Anonymous said...

Brockley Heliport?

Anonymous said...

The site is designated by the council as a site of nature conservation importance... They say:

"The wide, shallow cutting between New Cross Gate and
Forest Hill stations contain probably the finest suite of
railside wildlife habitats in London. Around 4 kilometres
long and over 200 metres wide at its widest points, this is
a huge swathe of high-quality habitat reaching right into
the densely populated urban north of the borough. The
woodland, scrub, acid and neutral grasslands and reed
beds support a great diversity of plants and animals,
including several local rarities. Unusually for a railside
situation, three nature reserves allow controlled access to
parts of this wilderness, while rail travellers from London
Bridge to East Croydon could be forgiven for thinking that
the Borough of Lewisham is largely countryside."

Digger said...

The site is designated by the council as a site of nature conservation importance...

Does this have any legal weight I wonder. If it does then it might explain the low guide price. Is it beyond the bounds of possibility that a group of keen allotmenteers could group together and purchase it? I'd be willing to pitch in if others were interested.

Brockley Cross said...

Daga's website says the following. Again not sure if this is legally enforceable. http://deptfordallotments.wordpress.com/about/

Anonymous said...

Can anyone post the flyer, please?

Anonymous said...

The flyer was the same as is linked in the article.

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Ruairi said...

Anyone know what this sold for and to who?

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