Brockley and New Cross step-free access timetables confirmed

Councillor Paul Bell attended a Lewisham Council Transport Select Committee tonight and reports that: "According to the TfL representative present, Brockley Station will get a lift for Platform 1 in Jan 2014 and New Cross Gate will get three lifts in November 2013".

This is consistent with TfL's draft accessibility plan, which we reported last year. However, it's good to have the plan confirmed and that work will be completed at the started of the year.

26 comments:

Anonymous said...

Which one's Platform 1? The one going to London Bridge?

In that case - finally! Sure someone will pick fault with it. Maybe they could've built the recent ramp there in the first place rather than on the side that already had a ramp built in the 90s.

Brockley Cross said...

Brilliant! Just in time for me to no longer need to get down to the platform with a buggy! Ah well - better late than never I guess.

Amy Ip said...

So we're STILL waiting at Honor Oak?

Anonymous said...

What about New Cross? The title says New Cross but the article refers to New Cross Gate. The tortuous detour across the rail bridge, through the station building, under the subway and up on to the London-bound platforms adds a good two minutes to any commute...

Brockley Nick said...

Yes, the headline refers to NX the place, rather than the station. No info about NX station.

Anonymous said...

I hope the lift won't be made of glass or I'm sure someone here will claim they can't use it...

Johanna said...

My twins are due in two weeks. With a double buggy, january 2014 sure does seem a long way off.

michael said...

Honor Oak Park and New Cross are both in the Access for All funding from DfT and the most recent date for completion I have seen is Dec 2013.

Aricana said...

Are there plans for direct access to platform 1 from the westside? Or is the lift instead of, or in addition to this?

Robert said...

Aricana.

BrocSoc are currently working on this with the developer who owns the 6 Mantle Road site, and Lewisham planning.

There is a lot of support to provide direct pedestrian access from the west, including from ward councillors in Telegraph Hill and Brockley. The site on Mantle Road is the last opportunity to do this really. It is especially appropriate to have this access here, as it was the site for the orgiginal Platform 1 Station.

A gentle ramp from the westside would be a much better solution than a lift - and probably cheap too.

Anonymous said...

"The tortuous detour across the rail bridge, through the station building, under the subway and up on to the London-bound platforms adds a good two minutes to any commute..."

Yeah...life's hard, then you die. Get over it.

Anonymous said...

2 whole minutes eh? What a schlep. :-/

Tamsin said...

It is when it's quite unecessary and the result of bad planning and incompetence - or if you are old, infirm, with heavy luggage/shopping, with a buggy or children.

And if you live within five minutes of where the access should be on the westside it adds 40% or more to the walk (or run, if you're late) - which sounds much more drastic...

Anonymous said...

Tamsin, I believe you're describing what's known around these parts as "first world problems"

Tamsin said...

Agreed - but they are still problems and easily solved, so worth mentioning.

And Robert is suggesting that if thought about in time and planned for, a ramp up the westside would be a cheaper, low-tech, more reliable than a proposed lift.

Aricana said...

@ Robert

Thanks. Also prefer a ramp over a lift for access to platform 1.

Brockley Ben said...

@anon 13:14 Can I suggest that if you want to debate second- or third-world problems then a hyperlocal blog is probably not the forum you're looking for?

Anonymous said...

Pettifogging Central

Brockley Nick said...

Better to discuss real issues, which make a real difference to people's everyday lives than to disappear up one's own arse rehashing tired old ideological arguments in the comments section of - say - a Simon Heffer or Seamus Milne column (which is where I suspect the FWP troll lives).

Anonymous said...

Brockley Central: where encouraging a little perspective amongst those whose lot is bountiful is considered a tired old ideological argument.

Troll Hunter said...

Anon @13:48 Classic trolling behaviour from a self righteous troll. You are offended and have time to indulge in commenting on a blog? 1st world problem.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jun/12/how-to-deal-with-trolls

(I've disregarded rule 1, ignore the troll)

westsider said...

Westside access would be welcomed...

michael said...

I don't visit Brockley much but I came by train once. Arriving on platform 1 I assumed there would be an exit to bring me out more or less next to my destination - Drakefell Road.

I worked out that there was a bridge over my head with people heading that way, but I couldn't see how to get on it. So instead I went up the steps and was forced across a bridge going to the wrong platform (did I mention I had to get up the stairs with a buggy containing a sleeping baby?)

Being an idiot, once across the bridge I checked that I couldn't access the bridge from platform 2, knowing that once I had left the station I would be charged to re-enter.

After checking I proceeded to the ticket barrier where the attendant kindly opened the barrier for my buggy, so I was able to go through. After which I realised I needed to swipe out with PAYG rather than go through an open gate, so I had to get him to let me back through, so I could exit a second time using my ticket.

Once clear of the gate I found the bridge which I was able to squeeze the buggy onto, past a helpfully placed bollard. But I was finally on the bridge, and just the double fences to negotiate with a buggy, slightly too narrow to allow me to go through at the same time as people coming the other way.

All that kerfuffle to travel about 5 metres in the rain, across two bridges with no roofs and a baby asleep in a buggy.

I'm afraid Brockley station doesn't quite fit with the rest of the first world - where we don't expect to cross two bridges to end up roughly back where we started.

Anonymous said...

A gate on the Westside would also help Westside retailers by encouraging departing north bound passengers to exit->shop->cross (if they live on the Eastside)

Anonymous said...

Not related to this but still train-related, what has happened to the frequency of trains heading south on te overground? Only 4 trains per hour from Shoreditch between 18-19:00 when there used to be 8 only a few weeks ago. I have been cyclingquite a bit so might have missed something?

endwellresident said...

Does anyone know what has happened with the discussions Brockley Cross Action Group has been having with London Overground on step-free ramp access on the west side?


London Overground appear to be relocating the shop to where the ramp would go...

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