Crofton Park: Police the hounds!

'A Concerned Resident' writes:

My mother lives in Crofton Park and up until recently so did I. On the night of Sunday 24th June 2012, she decided to go to the local late opening shop on Brockley Road. In order to get there she is required to walk past the Acorn estate agents (former public loos I think - by the roundabout). Between the Acorn estate agents and Rosie's florist is a bench that was installed approximately a couple of years ago. This bench has increasingly become the hang out for all manner of shady people, including a regular who keeps bull-terrier dogs.

On this particular night, my mum paused at her gate to consider whether it was safe to go to her local shop by walking past the potential threats and was chased inside her house by the dogs, who jumped over her front garden and started sniffing and circling her door. The owner did nothing to try to control her dogs.

My mother says a news article appeared in the local newspaper, highlighting concerns raised by local residents regarding this particular bench and the individuals it attracts, but that nothing has been done.

I am writing this to urge as many people as possible to write to the local authority and local politician to address this issue as soon as possible.

I'm not sure who in the Local Authority I would write this to or how I can go about contacting the local politician, but I'm hoping, the feedback here will help me get the ball rolling.

46 comments:

Bob from Brockley said...

I am sympathetic, because there are so many horrible dogs on our streets and in our parks in this part of London - my son is terrified after some bad experiences. That particular bench has become something of a haven for street drinkers, including some with dogs, mainly in the early evening. However, I've not been past it millions of times, but I've never been hassled or harassed by them or the dogs in any way, and haven't heard any of my neighbours mentioning it either.

Tamsin said...

I would think contact the local Safer Neighbourhoods Team and Ward Councillors (feed the postcode into the relevant page of the Lewisham Council website).

I like dogs but that would be seriously scary.

ididnt said...

Unfortunately, there no police patrolling the streets of Lewisham, so good luck with this.

John Bowen said...

I'm sorry to read of your Mother's experience. I' make sure the Safer Neighboorhood Team are aware of this and raise it with the Council as well. They're all aware of similar problems at Crofton Park station.

best wishes

John Bowen
Lib Dem Councillor for Crofton Park Ward

Anonymous said...

The opening post is a dog whistle. Apart from the dogs incident, what tangible issues do people have with the area in question? Not liking the look of someone doesn't count

Brockley Nick said...

"Dog whistle" is rapidly becoming the most overused and devalued term on BC. You realise that by saying something is a dog whistle, you are accusing someone of being a racist who is trying to covertly inflame other people's racism. This is nothing of the sort.

Anonymous said...

'Apart' from the dogs issue? Surely that is a big part of the reason people are concerned - you can't just exclude it.
Agree with Nick on your use of 'dog whistle' too - you sure you know what it means?

Pete said...

I don't think the phrase "dog whistle" has to refer to racism Nick. It can mean that of course, but in this case it is just as likely to be accusing the complainant of not liking the fact that down at heel tramps are there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog-whistle_politics

You're right though; it is overused.

Anonymous said...

There's no dog whistle here though - the original post is concerned about street drinkers with dangerous dogs. Nothing coded about that.

Brockley Nick said...

@Pete - fair enough. But as the person below you points out, there is no code in this case, just someone who doesn't like street drinkers setting their dogs on their mum.

Anonymous said...

The dog whistle bit is thus: "the bench has increasingly become the hangout for all manner of shady people". We got the dog example- what were the others up to to arouse concern?

dog whistle said...

somebody say something?

Anonymous said...

God, it's a turn of phrase. Rough looking blokes, pissed up and likely to scare elderly women.
Don't pretend to be so naive.

They set their dogs on her - that not enough?

Anonymous said...

What does rough looking mean?

Pissed - what, like people in The Gantry?

Brockley Nick said...

Ridiculous.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, you're right - it's the tramps that are the victims here. Sod the old dear eh?

Give over - so desperate to be seen as liberal it hurts, some people.

Anonymous said...

"What does rough looking mean?"

You lived a very sheltered life, have you?

Anonymous said...

So still no one looking to substantiate their claims then. Ridiculous.

Anonymous said...

Typical. Blame the victim.

Anonymous said...

What's wrong with street drinking? Like they do outside The Orchard?

The Mung Chorus said...

We all - stand - togethahhhh!

Anonymous said...

Lot of very naive people on here today. Is it half term?

Westsider said...

"Like they do outside The Orchard?" No. Not like that.

Anonymous said...

@ ididnt "Unfortunately, there no police patrolling the streets of Lewisham, so good luck with this."

...
Police do patrol the streets of Lewisham, just not every road in Lewisham at all times of day. I personally see them around Darfield Rd as well as Turnham Rd area every day.

Anonymous said...

I don't think anyone 'set their dogs' on the lady. But they didn't control them.

Anonymous said...

Thanks. I'm sure old lady is grateful for the distinction.

ididnt said...

@ Anonymous - your level of sanctimony is nauseating.

And I rarely see the police patrolling the streets round here full stop.

God knows there are enough feral looking people to lock up

Jonno said...

Doesn't the dog have any rights in all this?

Crofty said...

I walk home from the station around midnight each night and for a few months last year I used to cross over and walk on the other side of Brockley Road until I'd got past this site. Nothing serious had ever happened, but I'd constantly get beery yells from the drunken guys along the lines of "Alright love - garn, give us a smile" which would turn into nasty jeering when I didn't smile. I felt if not threatened, very uncomfortable. I haven't seen them lately though and I'm sorry to hear they are still causing other people problems.

Anonymous said...

What does rough looking mean?

Pissed - what, like people in The Gantry?

Answer:

NOTHING!

Anonymous said...

@ Crofty: "garn" - I haven't seen that expression in print since I read the Beano in the 70s. You sure that's what they said?

NAT said...

I went by just the other day; Pretty sure I heard them say 'garn' as well.
Not quite sure why they did that, but it didn't bother me too much as I'm quite open minded about these things.

If they're bothering people with their dogs, then that's a different matter.

Osh said...

No one is answering you because your questions are too dumb to bother with.

kolp said...

the lack of manners continues...

Anonymous said...

If it happens again she should inform the police.

Crofty said...

Anon what's your problem. You mightn't have seen the word in print but I can assure you yobs still yell it! They did not bellow in RP "Go on, give us a smile". But that's it for me and this blog's comments section. The things people attack you over are unbelievable.

NAT said...

Don't go Crofty.
Not because of an Anon. anyway.

bumbags said...

I am a dog-owner. By law, you must be in control of your dog in a public place- this doesn't mean it needs to be always on a lead, but you must be able to control it. Also, your dog doesn't need to attack someone for it to be an offence- it just needs to frighten someone. SO- you should pester the police about this incident with your Mother, as the owners weren't controlling their dog. A dog is a big responsibility, and these people should be cautioned about its behaviour and told to put it on a lead. Poor dog will end up nipping someone, and because of its breed it will likely be destroyed. And AGAIN, this will be the fault of irresponsible owners.

BDS said...

Did someone whistle?

Anonymous said...

I guess the street drinking club are residents of some nearby hostel.

Crofton Park and Brockley have many shelters for people with all manner of problems.

Sometimes new characters arrive in the area and start causing a nuisance.

It usually has to get quite bad before something is done about it.

useyourcouncil said...

This is an appalling situation that a person is made to become a prisoner in their own home by uncontrolled dogs! This should be reported to the relevant police Safer Neighbourhood Team, the lady's ward councillors and also to the council dept below

Neighbourhood Community Safety Service: North Locality Team
Works to ensure safer neighbourhoods for residents in these wards: Evelyn, New Cross, Telegraph Hill, Brockley, Ladywell, Crofton Park.


Address:
23 Mercia Grove
London
SE13 6BJ
Tel: 020 8314 6688
Email: communitysafety@lewisham.gov.uk

From other comments made it appears that there are other incidents of antisocial behaviour problems around that area and the above team is the one that should take the lead to try and resolve it!

Anonymous said...

I seem to recollect a huge van parked at Brockley station, a few months ago, to the bemusement of locals.
Part of a project addressing issues around street drinking, which is not much in evidence.

Maybe such resources should be directed towards Crofton Park.

Lady in the Well said...

Ladywell Fields (station end) has become a bit of a hangout for homeless drunks with scary dogs.

or doesn't that count as street drinking because it's in the park?

Anonymous said...

Ladywell fields is also becoming dangerous, there have been muggings on the path by the church.

Mike said...

The issue of dangerous dogs is not essentially a race problem, unlike many other occurences of violence . It is well known that aggressive/horrible people (invariably MEN connected with the drugs 'trade')raise these animals as attack weapons. It is absolutely essential that the police deal effectively with this criminal/anti social activity.I have heard, depressingly, numerous accounts of people complaining of aggressive dogs and their owners in public parks having been dismissed by the police as wasting their time.

Barb said...

OMG I never though I would see the day that Crofton Park would turn rogue, my Mum grew up there as did my brother and I my Dad grew up in Nunhead,we moved away in 1959 when I was 15, we went all the way through Brockley primary school, with Miss Andrews, and Mr Rook, and Headmaster Mr Kondict, with his violin, it was a quiet lazy place to live in, with the Rivili cinema across the bridge.

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