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Jez sent us this footage of the latest teen craze, sweeping Brockley. Stupidly dangerous roller-bussing. past the Co-Op in West Brockley. Roller busing kids have also been cropping up on the Nunhead forum.
Living is dangerous, at least they are not hurting anyone.
A young lad was badly injured in Ladywell, he could easily have been killed, but I suspect the scars he retained added to his esteem amongst his peers.
Seen this lots lately - including jumping on cars (mainly Chelsea tractor types due to the height). The danger of course is that if the driver has to brake suddenly, the skater gets catapulted...
I've lost count of how many skaters I've nearly hit in the car because they use the centre of the roads on Telegraph Hill as a speed slalom.They suddenly come shooting out of side roads and turnings in main traffic with no way of stopping, or you start to turn into a main road and suddenly they've appeared out of nowhere on the wrong side of the road where you can't see them.
I saw a kid hanging onto the back of the 484 somewhere near Hilly Fields a few weeks back. Horrifying to think of someone doing this down Vicar's Hill.Kolp, they could quite easily hurt someone else if they're catapulted off the bus or car at speed onto the pavement, and what about the impact on the driver/witnesses/family if someone was killed or seriously hurt? Plus, we all pay for their NHS treatment if needed.
If we could start a new craze of them holding onto the BONNET instead of the back - the resulting cull would mean the skatepark would be freed up for us skateboarders... just a suggestion.
I used to do this with cars in the 80s; inspired by Marty McFly in Back to the Future no doubt. In fact I used to get my dad to pull us along. Dangerous? Yes. Fun? Yes.
Saw a few on bonfire night coming down Eliot Hill off Blackheath, a couple going backwards. It is completely irresponsible and rather cool.
Kolp, given the choice children would play with bows and arrows and drive cars. I believe adults have a responsibility to protect young people as they don't always have the judgement to make sensible decisions. It's not climbing trees it's hanging onto a bus on a busy road and actually yes, it does endanger other people. Not that it means we should allow children to I injure themselves and wash our hands of any responsibility.
The skaters are terrifying me with the recklessness that I've seen I just hope it's a short-lived craze.
I've seen loads of kids go down Vicars Hill backwards on their skates. I almost can't watch as I expect there to be a nasty accident at some point.
Shocking! Absolutely disgraceful that teenagers are trying to have fun, and take risks, and get exercise.I think they should stand on street corners doing nothing, or even better stay at home and watch TV.I NEVER took risks or did anything as reckless when I was their age!!!Yours,Disgusted of Brockley Conservation Area
Yes it's not ideal safety wise. But let's not hype this up. I suspect part of the kicks gained from this is watching adults panicked reactions.Also, youth services- budget cuts, what do we expect...?
"West Brockley"Why the capital w?
Whatever next?! Git Surfing?
Its funny how Rollerskating seems to be craze pretty much localised to Lewisham and Catford.
well that skate park in Telegraph Hill doesn't look especially thrilling, so the kids are looking for kicks elsewhere.
Do schools not try to do anything about stuff like this anymore? When I was at school, if a 'craze' for something stupid like this started, we'd all get dragged into assembly for a b0llocking, and they'd tell the relevant parents what their lovely offspring had been up to.
I like the way Jez (and his camera) looked right as instructed before crossing the side road.It's a tricky call to make - where to interfere with fun and risk-taking. I suppose the line has to be that taking risks is fine if it is only yourself that will be hurt. So free-running and climbing trees is scary, but OK. This on the buses is a bit unfair on the innocent bus or car driver who is traumatised by your death.
There's nothing wrong with teenagers taking stupid risks really, its what they do and I know as a child I did lots of daft things. That doesn't mean adults shouldn't want them to stop doing it though. In 9 or 10 years I don't really want to be scraping my son off the road when he does something like this and I'm sure the parents of the children in this video don't want to either. But then my parents didn't want me smoking or binge drinking and it didn't stop me.
so the kids have finally had enough of sitting indoors on computers, great. Obviously don't condone this as it's dangerous and terrifying to be in a car behind wondering if you're going to have a body on the bonnet, maybe sanitise it with some out of action buses driving up and down a hill with the st.john's ambulance ready to deal with any injuries?Kids can be very bored in the city, nice to see them getting some exercise.
Have you not not seen Michael J Fox and back to the future? He tailgates on his skateboard.
We used to do this as kids, reasonably safe. Stop wrapping your little Hugo and Mungos in cotton wool, they might benefit from it.
Hugo and Tarquin have fun in a controlled environment like a cafe or pub while I ignore their racket and send emails on my Macbook.
Heh! He said Hugo. He's funny like Lenny Henry! lMFAO
He said "Lenny Henry"! He's probably one of those braindead parents who do what's just been described with their mop headed offspring in local cafes then... LOL!
Unfortunately, I think this craze has come about as a result of the success of the roller skating sessions youth services organise on a Friday evening at Ladywell Day Centre. What was previously an underused resource, never open to the community in the evening, now has several hundred kids from across the borough queuing up to go there every week. It's a shame that a few of the kids are putting their and others' lives at risk with the tailgating, as overall as others have said it's great to see loads of young people out exercising rather than sitting in front of the TV getting fat. I spoke to a couple of the PCSOs from Ladywell SNT about it a few weeks back and they are very much aware of the problem, and are trying to deal with it. As someone else mentioned, there has already been at least one accident on Vicar's Hill.
I honestly couldn't care less about the welfare of anyone dumb enough to do this - but I'd quite like them to stop for the sake of the innocent driver who ends up doing a prison term because they run one of them over.
Now come on Anon, you know I'm right and you are a fool. Adults have a responsibility toward children, not just their parents unless you think parents have to follow their kids around or that parents know what there teenagers do (they don't, teens drink, smoke, swear and are often stupid. Most grow out of it, others post as anons), is that so difficult a concept? WTF?
Also, I despair at those who say " I couldn't care less". It's stupid, they have themselves to blame but kids do stupid things, does not mean they are or will remain stupid. If a friend of mine had a child who died doing this it would bother me. If you are truly not bothered then that's a a sad reflection. May as well give up on the idea of society at all. Most do care though, we're humans, we care for groups wider than our kin. Unles you are a psychopath or a chimpanzee.
It's an environmentally friendly, healthy, way of travelling. All London buses should have bars on the back that people could grab. Would cut traffic.
Well what that says to me Sue is that MORE resources are required for youngsters in the area...
Tim - I assume you write in jest?Troll Bait - don't do down chimpanzees! They're intelligent animals with capacity to grieve as we do!
@Kolp - how could you possibly infer that from what Sue said, unless it was the answer you were determined to come to in any case?
@kolp there's always an argument for more resources for youth services, but in Ladywell specifically, I think we've got considerably more youth provision than we had 6 years ago, such as the adventure playground and the youth village - back in 2006 there was very little except what St Andrew's and the Tabernacle were doing. Hopefully in a few years time we might be able to add the Playtower to the list of places too.
Reminds me of a joke.Q. What's the hardest thing about rollerskating? A. Telling your dad you're gay.
even worse, the shoreditch twat looking 30somethings you see using skateboards in brockleywankers
is this the generation of brockley kids that grew up riding the buggy boards behind their siblings?
Darwinian selection in action.
To me it is quite obvious and poignant from what Sue said that there is pent up demand from young people for social/physical activities. They came in their 100s. They want to do stuff. It is sad, how we are so slow to address their needs. But so quick lambast them. Kids get criticized for so much; hanging around, for what they eat, how they talk, dress etc, etc
this is happening only because they build the skatepark in telegraph hill and skating is spreading amongs youngsters!!!
I've seen them doing this around the main roundabout in Lewisham. I completely agree with Tamsin, it's not just risking their own safety, they are risking the safety of others and some innocent driver is going to going to have a death on their concience.Saying it's good to see them getting some exercise is ridiculous.
Ha ha that looks like fun! Kids are so starved of danger nowadays they need to create their own...
This has nothing to do with budgets and cuts and im fed up with everyone sayi ng its the reason for certain behaviour half of what is avalible was not there when i was growing nor did i family or friends grow up to be rude or disrespectful! as for this so called crazy its not i remember back in the late 80s early 90s everyone playing this game as with marbles hula hoops rolla skates have become popular again and this is just part of it
Indeed - it is nothing to do with budget cuts.Apologists for bad behaviour always say 'there's nothing for kids to do.'Except go to the park (which has a playground, football pitch, basketball court, tennis court & skatepark). Or to go swimming, which is free. Or to the library, which is free. Or to museums, which are free. Or to a friend's house, which is free. Or out on a bike, which (after you have the bike) is free. Or imaginary play, which is free. Or hide and seek, which is free.There are plenty of decent, wholesome, cheap or free things for kids to do. Some kids choose to do anti-social things instead. And some morons choose to apologise for this rather than tackling them head on.I care not if these twits hurt themsves behind a bus. Their call. Stupidity is a right. I care very much about the hard working bus driver who'll be traumatised for life if he paralyses you. And I care for the parents who'll have to spend the rest of their lives feeding these paralysed twits through a tube.
Perhaps the little scamps could be encouraged to join Lou's citizens organisation. There's only so much bloody justice that one lunatic with an overinflated bile duct can dispense.I though bus drivers were hopeless public sector workers, lazy etc? Honestly, I can't keep up with his anger.
Kids have always been naughty, even in the home counties where most of Brockley is from.
I can't condone this behaviour, but officially sanctioned thrills are not likely to satisfy the small proportion of reckless kids who indulge in it.
does anyone remember a pretty gory video which was made in the 80s to put kids off playing on rail tracks? They went into a tunnel and came out in a very bloody state.Plus ca change - this craze horrifies me though, there's one thing about getting a bit of a thrill but the kids doing this must have zero regard for their own or anyone else's safety or lives. Would they be doing it if they thought they had a decent future ahead of them?
There's nothing new in this it happened in the 70s during the last roller skating craze. It was in-line skates then, now its the 4 wheel variety. There was a similar craze in the late 50s when steel wheeled skates were superseded by rubber wheeled Jaco skates.
I saw a group of kids sitting in Starbucks drinking coffee the other day, that's just weird and wrong.
In every way, and demonstrates the lack of judgement endemic in teenagers
Ah, it takes me back.Visions of a conductor on a 36 routemaster bus going through Peckham. Hammering away at the fists of youths clenched the pole supporting the open boarding platform of the bus yelling as they were pulled along on their roller skates. 'Let go you little bastards!' He yelled.I suspect that you would not have to look very far to find those scamps, if they survived their teens and the other travails of the 1980s.I seem bus design has not advanced very much.
yep, getting on and off the 36 at New X Gate whilst it was moving was one of my favourite things to do when I was younger (10-11ish), my friend misjudged it one day, broke her collar bone and almost got run over by the bus behind... this didn't stop us doing it but did make us a tiny bit more careful. I do think hanging off a bus on skates is stupid and I really hope nobody gets seriously hurt doing it but young people need to take risks and realise what their boundaries are in order to develop fully. I'm the epitome of a middle class first generation Brockleyite but my mum used to let me get buses by myself whilst I was still in primary school, that just doesn't seem to happen anymore.
terrencetrentderby...'even worse, the shoreditch twat looking 30somethings you see using skateboards in brockleywankers'Question - what were they 'using' the skateboards for?Also, 30-somethings should be hyphenated. Twat.
Perhaps this craze could involve them picking up the ever-growing piles of rubbish that accumulate on Vicars Hill, as they are catapulted behind the bus...
thanks for helpfully post :-)Ford Tractor Forum
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