Brockley Cross works on hold until after the Paralympics

Work to remodel Brockley Cross has ground to a temporary halt as a result of the hiatus on road projects in place during the Olympic period, Lewisham Council has confirmed.

The road in the centre of Brockley Cross remains to be raised, level with the pavement, to slow traffic and part of Geoffrey Road is due to become one-way, to stop drivers turning right straight on to a pedestrian crossing.

Work started way back in March and has been moving at a glacial pace and was supposed to have been completed before the start of the Games.

In related news, the Council reports that "apart from a few coping stones that need to be replaced, the [remedial]works at Brockley station are now complete."

32 comments:

Anonymous said...

Nick, what portion of Geoffrey Road is one way?

In which direction - towards Manor Avenue, or away from it?

Brockley Nick said...

It's the little bit between BX and UBR. Traffic heading towards BX will be diverted down the short stretch of UBR that runs parallel with Geoffrey Road towards Brockley Cross. This is to prevent cars from turning right straight on to the new crossing they will be putting in place, which would be dangerous.

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry I've looked at the plans but I can't see where a crossing would cause such a problem - unless new plans have recently been submitted.

Why by the way is it considered dangerous to turn right onto a zebra crossing?

Brockley Nick said...

Looked again at the layout, maybe it's the turn left on to the crossing, rather than right. Anyway, that's what's happening to Geoffrey Road.

ratrun? said...

do you mean they'll do a right off Geoffrey road, go past those two houses on the left and then take a left onto UBR.

Anonymous said...

I', mot sure I fully understand so will take another look at the design. It's a shame it wasn't blocked off at that part of Geoffrey to all traffic.

Brockley Nick said...

Yup. Should result in fewer cars using that route as a ratrun.

Anonymous said...

Still can't see why it would be unsafe to turn 'left' onto a zebra crossing either.

Anonymous said...

..not so good if you live in one of those houses I'm guessing. Suddenly cars are diverted past your house.

Brockley Nick said...

Seems sensible not to put a crossing right next to a place that cars are turning out of.

Brockley Nick said...

Anon 1541 - the only houses on that stretch are in the middle of GR and UBR. So the cars will travel down one side of them, rather than the other. And because the road is narrower, there will probably be fewer cars in total.

Anonymous said...

I think we should scream and shout about this.

Anonymous said...

I've looked at the plans and it seems that there's been no public consultation on the rerouting of the traffic..?

Although ten house at that point of Geoffrey will lose the traffic, the other route will go past ten houses there. Makes no sense.

UBR said...

"Anon 1541 - the only houses on that stretch are in the middle of GR and UBR. So the cars will travel down one side of them, rather than the other."

won't it mean that more cars will go past the front of the house now though rather than the side?

Brockley Nick said...

There was a public consultation, which is how I know about it.

But you're right, there are some houses that will be newly affected. Only four though, not ten. And this is balanced against the 10 or so houses on GR that will not have that traffic.

Brockley Nick said...

"won't it mean that more cars will go past the front of the house now though rather than the side?"

Two houses that currently have it go past the front will have it go past the back. Two houses that currently have it go past the side will have it go past the front.

Anonymous said...

Stop using weasel words like calling it a "rat run". Everyone going up there lives on the other side.

Anonymous said...

This seems grossly unfair to those peeps. I did s treet view and counted ten houses, two being on the direct left, and two on the right then as it turns in the rest follow. This will creat a snarl of traffic. (Perhaps not so bad as people may go elsewhere.) But you got lucky by this decision, Nick.

Brockley Nick said...

@Anon - I'm just reporting the news, it wasn't my decision or even anything I argued for. It's a minor tweak to improve pedestrian safety.

You asked the questions, I attempted to answer them, based on my knowledge of the situation.

Anonymous said...

I am not sure who cares about a small diversion...

I am glad that they are remodeling the cross, just hope they kepp the promise to finish it

Anonymous said...

Brockley Nick : When was the public consultation held on re-routing traffic on GR and through UBR?
I live on UBR and did'nt receive any info on these changers from the council!

Anonymous said...

@Brockley Nick said...
"Yup. Should result in fewer cars using that route as a ratrun."

Means cars will use other streets as rat-runs. Is that fair on the people who live there?

Anonymous said...

@Brockley Nick

"And because the road is narrower, there will probably be fewer cars in total."

No, there will still be the same number of cars - they will either simply snarl up on the re-allocated roads, or the cars will be displaced to yet other residential roads.

This is a bad idea which nobody seems to have been consulted on and which comes from a few activists with their own agendas.

Westsider said...

what activists? what agendas? what are you talking about?

Bindibobcat said...

We live in one of the house on UBR that will now be on the new 'one way' system. Not happy. We were informed by the Council of their intention to change the road lay out but when protested they advised us that it wasn't their idea. The Police had refused permission for traffic to turn left out of GR straight into the path of the new pedestrian crossing at Brockley Cross. The Police deny this - says it's nothing to do with them and they wouldnt have commented. Who knows....However, we had a taster when GR was resurfaced a few weeks back. That resulted in morning gridlock and in the afternoon/evening boy (and, indeed, girl) racers thought it was fun to chicane around the block. Someone/thing is going to get hurt. A couple of neighbours and I have written our concerns to the council planning department but if any one else has a bright idea, would be gratefully received.

Robert said...

I don't know about activists with agendas, but BrocSoc met with the Project Manager for these works last year, and BXAG was also there.

We had a lengthy discussion with the PM and his traffic consultant designer, and we put our views across relating to traffic calming measures, tree-planting, and the general quality of the works. All reasonable concerns that had come out of discussions at public meetings and debates - which most certainly influenced the development of the revised plan.

At no point was the redirection of traffic mentioned at that meeting. In fact the first I heard about it was when I bumped into the Project Manager at the junction of Geoffrey Road a couple of months ago, and he told me.

There may be a good practical reason why it has been brought in. Perhaps all we need is an explanation.

Bibdibobcat said...

I'm not sure that they are out to get us, but you're right it would be good to have a valid explanation of why the road alterations are being deemed necessary - and an answer to our concerns about the resultant effects to traffic.
Guess as 'interested parties' it would have been good to have known about the discussions with BrocSoc but guess that might be our fault for not getting involved enough in local affairs?

Ruby said...

Does anybody know how cyclists will be affected by this? Will they be expected to use the diversion via UBR or will the one-way section continue to be two-way for cyclists?

Brockley Nick said...

I'm not aware that there will be any special exemptions for cyclists, but we are talking about a 20 yard stretch.

Anonymous said...

Dear Nick, I was wondering if you were aware when things will be completed? Being a mum with a pushchair living on Malpas Road, I have found it even harder to get across Brockley Cross now that the raised path is in place, but without the bridging effect of an actual CROSSING. Not shouting at you, I'm not in the habit of shooting the messenger. It's driving me mad feeling I have to do a rat run every day. Thank you Mrs Bardsley

Anonymous said...

What happened to this? The Paralympics are finished but there is no sign of works being completed.

Is it another Brockley joke?

Brockley Nick said...

Works due to restart fairly soon.

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