Gracechurch

Bart: So Homer, you saw the big cheese? What'd he look like? 
Homer: Perfect teeth. Nice smell. A class act, all the way. 
- The Simpsons, Homer the Heretic

Gracechurch is a new fundamentalist church in Brockley that believes The Bible is the inerrant word of the big cheese. Simon Abrams writes:

We are a group of people who have been attending churches in Dulwich, Camberwell and central London but all live locally. We meet in Crossways Academy and just wanted to let people know that we are here.

We come from a range of backgrounds including postmen, plumbers, bankers people in IT and consultancy. We are mixed ethnically and are probably a fair reflection of Brockley.

29 comments:

Mb said...

It's OK, I'm deleting my posts in advance.

Anonymous said...

Seriously?

Anonymous said...

"We are mixed ethnically and are probably a fair reflection of Brockley"

Dishonest fare fans need not apply.

Anonymous said...

That's fine. You 'honest fare' types will fit right in with this lot.
*does curly wurly cuckoo motion with finger*

AJ Dehany said...

Oh we're all mad in Brockles. And anyway, as Steve Falkenberg says "I've never met anyone who actually believes the Bible is literally true. I know a bunch of people who say they believe the Bible is literally true but nobody is actually a literalist. Taken literally, the Bible says the earth is flat and sitting on pillars and cannot move (Ps 93:1, Ps 96:10, 1 Sam 2:8, Job 9:6). It says that great sea monsters are set to guard the edge of the sea (Job 41, Ps 104:26)..."

T2 said...

Are they a good deeds and help the poor type of church or the preachy, bigoty, fire and brimstone with suspiciously rich pastor driving a BMW type?

Oh - I'm not thinking of joining, I just wanted to know whether to make them welcome or not...

T2 said...

Are they a good deeds and help the poor type of church or the preachy, bigoty, fire and brimstone with suspiciously rich pastor driving a BMW type?

Oh - I'm not thinking of joining, I just wanted to know whether to make them welcome or not...

Sarcasmonger said...

Come on people I think you are not giving these guys enough credit.

The 'word of God' was clearly written right in the book by those people who werent there but who listened to the stroies and wrote them down with a little sexing up, using an old language that is no longer used before being translated by some other people who 'interpreted' it as best they could before it was re-written by some other people who's king appreciated a slightly amended political slant... with the thousands of different understandings of the various messages depending on who you listen to, how can you possibly doubt that the bible is the word of god?

Tim said...

Would be nice if people showed some manners and respect.

Brockley Nick said...

Agree re: manners.

well mannered atheist said...

Please walk to Crossways as parking is bad enough already.

Pontus said...

Wonder if the Romans clamped Joseph's donkey in 1AD outside the stables?

Ian on the Hill said...

Oh goodie, fundies on our doorstep. At last a good reason to start putting up atheist posters.

Andy Endwell said...

Even the Ku Klux Klan's hats have points which is more than can be said of the posts related to this thread!

Lou Baker said...

These churches often cause serious problems for local residents.

Noise, parking, anti-social behaviour. I fear this one will be the same.

Residents have my every sympathy.

None of us should have other people's religion shoved down our throats.

You want to believe selected bits of a 2000 year old fairy story, that's your call.

I want to spend my Sunday afternoons watching Lewis Hamilton kick a little Italian butt - free from your infernal chanting about sin, redemption and all that other claptrap.

Brockley Nick said...

@Lou - it's been there for a while and no one has mentioned it, so I doubt it's a big nuisance.

Anonymous said...

>probably a fair reflection of Brockley

What do the atheist church members do?

Scientific observation said...

It's really weird that people still believe all that stuff isn't it...

Genuinely not being snarky - I just find the whole mass dilusion thing genuinely freaky!

Still, whatever floats your boat!

kolp said...

oh dear...

abdou said...

I like the Brockley Rise street-sign-as-crucifix picture on the homepage.

Well mannered atheist said...

Nice of you to introduce the klan into this Andy. God fearing Christians, of course.

Anonymous said...

@Lou
Churches, yeah they are well known hot beds of anti social behaviour. Even by your standards that is a ridiculous claim.

@Andy Endwell LOL!!!!!

Agnostic said...

What do the atheist church members do?

Form a church of your own, perhaps? But would the irredeemably self centred and smug Dawkins lovers be able to come together in fellowship. Doubt it.

Anonymous said...

I worship at the altar of the Top Chef, for in there lies the path to enlightenment.

Lou Baker said...

@anon 1114

There are plenty of examples of fundamentalist and evangelical churches causing issues.

Cases in Hackney and Wandsworth which have ended up with residents taking the churches to court. There have been issues with churches in Southwark and Deptford.

And, closer to home, complaints about the church on Telegraph Hill - not St Catherines, the other one.

These 'churches' often pop up in unsuitable locations, with little concern for residents. Their poor behaviour IS an issue - as is the fact that they often flout licensing laws and claim, questionably, to be charities. Somewhere there is a scandal in there which needs uncovering.

I hope this church isn't one of these troublemakers. Nick says he thinks it isn't. I hope Nick is right.

YAHWEH said...

Terribly sorry about this Lou as it distresses me a little to have to call out an equal out but I really will have to smite you a bit if you go on in this vein.

Tamsin said...

The Church of God of Prophesy is now at least in dialogue (brokered by one of the Ward Councillors) with local residents whose weekends were being ruined by long and loud music of the type and decibel level that would have the Local Authority Noise Enforcement people round it if was not being done in the name of religion.

I luckily don't live nearby but do have a nebulous on-going general concern about what it is doing to the hearing of the children being subjected to it for hours on end every week. But those problems wont emerge for decades.

Anonymous said...

I'll show these people some respect on the day that they show some respect to me, and to others who don't share their deeply misguided beliefs.
Nasty, intolerant and bigoted.

kolp said...

"Nasty, intolerant and bigoted."

What has Gracechurch done to you to warrant such a comment?

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