Nursery bid for Ashby Road

Zoom, the company which applied to convert 60 Manor Avenue in to a nursery, is back after the failure of that project, with another application, just down the road. This time, it's lodged an application for:

The alteration and change of use of 1-3 Ashby Road SE4, from Offices (Use Class B1) to Nursery (Use Class D1) together with the construction of two skylights on the single storey roof, alterations to the north and west elevations, installation of boundary fence and gates to the front, associated landscaping and provision of bicycle stores and four car park spaces.

The building would create 77 places for 3 months-5 years-old kids. Zoom also plan to jazz up the exterior of the building, which they describe fairly as "rather dull and lacking any architectural merit."

Zoom's last attempt to build a nursery here was highly controversial. This should prove to be less-so, as the location is more sensitive and other mooted uses for this site have included a mental health facility.

Brockley Central said during the Manor Avenue saga that a nursery was clearly needed in the area, due to the fact that Brockley was attracting increasing numbers of young families. That was visibly true in 2009 - it's even more the case now.

With thanks to JPM for the tip-off.

17 comments:

Headhunter said...

I don't see how this is any better than developing the building on Manor Avenue.  It wasn't the use that was the problem, it was access, lack of parking and potential traffic mayhem at pick up and drop off times.  This point of Ashby Road is an even worse spot in this respect, there are already a lot of cars parked around the junction with Manor Avenue and Ashby Rd as well as quite a few vehicles using this junction as a rat run through from Geoffrey Rd, avoiding Wickham Rd.  In the mornings there is a lot of traffic Between Geoffrey Rd and Ashby Rd as cars try to cut quickly along and then left or right up or down Ashby to get to Malpas or Wickham Roads....  Another objection to the Manor Ave site was the likelihood that parents would drop their kids off at the nursery, leave their cars on Manor Ave and then catch the train from Brockley to work, this is just as likely with this new site

Wad said...

Good luck to those parents. There's no free parking spaces on Manor Avenue as it is.

Headhunter said...

Exactly, I haven't got a car but this was one of the major objections by people living on Manor Ave of the previous scheme, this application has all the same problems as the previous one, the site is simply shifted 20 metres round the corner!

maisie_moo said...

"The building would create 77 places for 3-5 month old kids."
Shurely shome mishtake?

Parking alert said...

I guess the site should be used for any purpose that does not create a demand for street parking and thus compete with the car owning residents.

So many possibilities: bail hostel, mental heath hostel, drug rehabilitation, refuge, asylum seekers hostel.

Sadly there are just not enough home/studio artists collective projects to go around.

 

brockmk said...

 Interesting that most new development in Hackney is either car free or capped. In stark contrast to Southwark councillors granting 600 new car parking spaces at E&C: http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/166095

BLS said...

Good Lord what NIMBYISM.    Heaven forbid that badly needed facilities should be built that make life easier for local working families etc.

Brockley Nick said...

Fixed, thanks

Brockley Nick said...

Surely the difference is that the cars won't have to squeeze down a very narrow Manor Avenue. This site is approachable from a number of directions. I think the concerns over parking were always a little overstated and there isn't a location in Brockley that won't have any parking issues. Most parents will walk. This location is only yards from an infant / primary school, so I don't see the problem.

Anonymous said...

They should turn it into a multi-storey car park.

Headhunter said...

Ashby Rd is even narrower! Apart from where the traffic calming bits are on manor ave... I should think most would approach from manor ave seeing as this site is literally just round the corner from the previous one on manor...

Brockley Nick said...

"I should think most would approach from manor ave seeing as this site is literally just round the corner from the previous one on manor..." Why would where they tried and failed to build a nursery have any bearing on which way parents travel?!

Babies versus Cars said...

Someone told me the other day that the cost of nursery childcare is about the same as the rental on a flat in Brockley.

If that is the case, the nursery business sounds like a bit of a goldmine.

If the planning process can be persuaded to allow a development to go ahead, there is money to be made out of childcare.

For some reason, this country does not do state provided childcare.

I guess it is assumed that one parent will stay at home looking after baby and have their brains turn to mush while the other works long hours and gets that stress.

Not a great lifestyle choice....but at least you get a parking place.


 









IMBY said...

My children currently go to Catherine House nursery on Tressillian Road. This isn't exactly located in the best place for parking either but everyone seems to manage ok.

I used to live on Manor Avenue right by Ashby Road and really can't see the problem with either the original proposal or this new one. Most people walk their children to nursery as they are then on their way to the train station, those that drive cause minimal problems dropping off usually before 8am and picking up after 5 so i imagine residents will either have already driven off for the day or will have their car parked on the road already.

The only real viable alternative for this building is to knock it down and build more 'luxury contemporary apartments'. What effect will that have on car parking and traffic?

Janeteglinton said...

My husband, myself and all our children have used Sounds Around since we moved to Brockley over 30 years ago. As other have said you got lots of things in his store and if he did not have them he would try to get them for you, and 9 times out of 10 he got them and at a good price. He and his Mum were always there and on a Thursday afternoon the rest of the family would be there, I often went in to buy bits and ended up chatting for a while with one or all of them. They were and are what a true family should be.
As a family we would like to offer our most sincere condolences to Mrs Hunter and her family at this sad time.
Janet and David Eglinton and family.

Janeteglinton said...

Sorry wrong page ( got interrupted, and little hands pressed buttons)

Jaimefoxy0 said...

zoom nurseries are a big money making company .know 2 people who use to work at their hither green site,to them it will be 77 monthly payments for the rich owners (woho i believe have nothing to do with the day to day running)they have no thought to local residents or the extra traffic it will create. There are enough good nurseries in SE4

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