Extra capacity on the East London Line as TfL orders 57 new carriages

TfL has ordered 57 new London Overground carriages, which will enable it to expand capacity on the East London Line by the end of next year, sooner than previously expected.

The order means that trains will be lengthened by an extra carriage, increasing capacity by 25%. The East London Line (the busiest stretch of the service) will be the first to get the upgrade.

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In other Brockley Station news, a few BCers have asked us about the building work currently taking place on the northbound platform. Unfortunately, this does not signal the start of step-free access, they're just relocating the cafe.

17 comments:

Sarah Bishop said...

Thank you Nick for keeping us informed - glad someone knows what is going on - couldn't get anything out of the station staff!

Philip Likos Corbett said...

Surely the trains don't need extra carriages, but rather extra services.

Martin Phillp said...

There have been speculative rumours in addition to the extra carriage on ELL trains, we'd also gain an extra two trains per hour to and from Crystal Palace. If this does happen, it'll probably be from December 2014.

Brockley Nick said...

As Martin says, there may be some of those too, but it's tricky to squeeze much more frequent services on, so lengthening the trains is vital

Headhunter said...

When I broke my arm and couldn't cycle I tried to take the ELL in the morning to get to Green Park (change at Can Water) but quickly realised it was a waste of time, the ELL was impossibly busy most mornings and the change at Can Water painful. I quickly turned back to the trusty Southern trains into London Bridge, changing there for Charing Cross and walking the rest of the way to Berkeley Sq. The Southern Trains were generally 10 carriages long (8 some mornings) and I always got a seat... Back on the bike now. Can't believe that some people endure the ELL every morning and every evening to and from work!

Ben H said...

Generally getting anything out of the station staff is a challenge.

Ben H said...

Glad to see the daily humiliation that is the morning ELL from Brockley is being improved.
One late train and the whole system decends into anarchy at 8.20am.

anon said...

Is there someone at tfl we can ask to see if the 2 additional trains per hour (confirmed as part of the "east london line") come through brockley? I'm hoping it's not just to surrey quays, or to clapham.

Monkeyboy said...

Well sounds like lots of people choose to use the ELL over the southern service, even if you CAN get a seat. Doesn't really matter whether or not you believe it, the facts speak for themselves. People find it useful.

Fat Controller said...

Useful yes, horribly overcrowded also yes. More to be done.

Martin Phillp said...

From what I've heard from people in the transport industry, they can squeeze in another two trains per hour on the Crystal Palace branch, this would give us 10 trains per hour between Dalston Junction and Sydenham on the ELL with the four from Southern. During the peak, this would increase to 16 per hour in the morning with Southern's six trains, of which two per hour are ten coaches.

The 5th carriage is essential in increasing capacity. Try boarding a West Croydon train from Canada Water between 5-7.30pm and it's cattle class.

Martin Phillp said...

And cheaper. Canada Water's role as being one stop away from Canary Wharf says a lot and has saved money for workers who no longer have to buy a travelcard with Zone 1 on it.

TTTE said...

I would guess they're relocating the 'cafe' in order to make space for step-free access from the overbridge, which would logically go where the cafe currently is.

If we get the two extra tph, that's 10 trains @ 5 carriages, versus 8 trains @ 4 carriages = a 56% increase in capacity. But I believe this would require an increase in the size of the fleet, which this new order doesn't cover.

Martin Phillp said...

TfL are building new railway sidings at Silwood Triangle to support the longer trains. New Cross Gate depot will also be re-configured for the 5 car trains.

endwellresident said...

Does anyone know what has happened with the discussions Brockley Cross Action Group has been having with London Overground on step-free ramp access on the west side?

It looks like the shop is being relocated to exactly where the ramp would go...

Robert said...

I've had some discussions with the developer's architect and planning consultant for the 6 Mantle Road site. They had a terrible application refused last year. They intend to submit revised plans for the site that will include step free access from the west. We're still waiting to see the revised plans - it's a slow process.

http://brockleycentral.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/broc-soc-proposes-mantle-road.html

endwellresident said...

Have there been discussions about their current plans to invest in step-free access which seem to involve re-siting the current kiosk to where a west-side ramp would go...?

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