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wow, is that legal?
One of the thing missing at Costcutter. Now they only need to open a nice vegetable stall!
What with Dukes Night Store, that stretch has ALL THE THINGS!
great job his doing there i got a big bowl of onions for a £1.00
It looks terrible, obstructs the path and I'm not sure it's even legal. I'm all for start ups and new ideas, but this just looks dodgy. It's kind of wrong that other entrepreneurs have to do things in a credible and professional way to get going and this guy just camps on the high street.
Couldn't agree more, to think of the knock on effect on the value of my nearby Victorian house makes me shit mars bars. It is definitely wrong and a stain on the reputation of honest entrepreneurship.
Pretend it's a "pop up" and everything will be cool. Actually, not sure it's technically on the footpath? Look closely, I think it's on their property? Don't know, just saying.
It could be legal. A friend of mine set up a temporary market stall on Lordship Lane to raise money for charity a year or 2 ago. She asked the shopkeeper if she could use the small patch of land in front of the shop, they said yes and apparently all was fine. Some grocers, butchers, fishmongers etc spill out onto the street anyway. FC Soper - the fantastic fishmonger in Nunhead has stuff out on the pavement. A lot of the shops in Lewisham have their wares spilling out front.... I assume this is legal as despite Southwark/Lewisham councils' glacial pace at getting things done, I'm sure even they would have sorted this by now.As for the pound a bowl of onions concept, if you head down to Lewisham Market any day except Sunday there's a whole wealth of pound a bowl options... Yes you have to choose carefully what to buy but it's all waaaaay cheaper than at supermarkets...
Well if it's not legal, I'm sure he'll get dealt with in due course. My emotions are mixed. It's always good to see entrepreneurship, but a shabby fruit stall outside a curry emporium does not tie in with my vision of a gentrified Brockley. We need something "artisan" and aspirational please.
I won't speak for everyone here but I'm sick to the back teeth of "artisans" and their overpriced, cutesy, twee, worthy tat.More of THIS sort of thing, Brockley!
This is quite problematic. Is it "real food" or not? Opinions please.
NIMBY,It's a fruit stall not a crack den, try not to let it keep you up at night.
Hehe, I knew someone would bite!
Wait-ing for- Rose at the MOT center
I'm not sure this qualifies as NIMBY. I think random street stalls that prop themselves up with used oil cans and bits of don't belong in any high street, it's not an SE4 thing. Here's hoping your short temper and aggressive attitude dont keep you awake either.
It seems to occupy that slim margin of frontage that seems part of the shop front rather than the public footpath. All these shopping parades go back to Victorian times when it was common to display goods outside (probably because, the interiors of the shops were quite poorly lit in those pre-electric times.) Frontage is still used by shopowners at their discretion. There are examples of frontage being used for its original intended purpose by florists, hardware shops and greengrocers. But often it creates an eyesore. Sometimes it becomes a convenient car park for the shop owner and his chums. On Lewisham Way, there is, of course, the Meze Mangal container. In all cases you can see a line where the pavement has been maintained by the council over the years and where it has been neglected by the shop owners.So, there is a bigger issue there. I am wondering what the rules are about this. Our shopping parades are often an awful hotch potch of styles and metal shutters. They do little to make the area a pleasant place to shop locally. In some parts of London there have been improvement schemes, which seem to make quite a difference. The mutterings of class war warriors regarding twee gentrification are hollow. Are they in cahoots with insurance companies that encourage this ugly shuttering that makes shopping parades look riot-ready and braced for mayhem?In this case we have a rather humble stall selling fruit bowls. It does look pretty untidy and I would worry that plastic sheet would take off if the wind catches it. It does make me wonder about the restaurant. Clearly the lunchtime trade is not what it was. Is this the death throes of another failing business? I hope the owner of this fruit selling business prospers and he will soon be able to upgrade his retail infrastructure with something more robust and attractive. Giving the lacklustre supermarkets in the area a run for their money in the fresh fruit department is a surely a good thing.As ever in Brockley it one step forward, one step back.
Spoken like a true NIMBY
the price is very good and i taste the fruit too..its really fresh and good..and salesman is friendly..
its really fresh food i bought few times there and good price too
I doubt the fruit and veg is "fresh" Exhaust fumes pumping out cars and busses up and down Brockley Road. Nice.
Doesn't stop your wife plying her trade on Brockley Road. Not nice.
some of these threads are so banal
Correct, what's your point?
Mixed quality (like Lewisham market) but the onions were good. Bloke doesn't know his stock, though - I asked what variety of apples they were. "English", apparently. I asked about some little orange things that looked like miniature squashes, but he didn't know what they were.
Must admit, I'm always reluctant to buy fruit and veg from stalls right next to main roads, same with picking blackberries etc. fresh stuff absorbs pollution from cars very easily...
I once heard that rocket salad grows best on the side of motorways. Not sure what to do with this information but so I was told.
The guy is expanding quickly and now selling mobile charges. I am not sure I approve, but someone from the Council should at least explain to him that he should not occupy the pavement...
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