Crofton Park seeks 100 years of train upgrades

BCer William says this is a pivotal moment for Crofton Park transport and wants residents to join his campaigning group. He writes:

The Department for Transport is inviting tenders for the biggest rail franchise in Europe. This franchise will include provisions of trains from Crofton Park station. We are within sight of a world-class system but currently Crofton Park gets a terrible deal - amongst the worst in London, considerably worse than what was delivered in 1950s Britain and on par with Edwardian era provision. 

Our group is fighting for a fair deal in the new franchise specification, with the support of Lewisham Council, local MPs, local GLA members and TfL. More information on our website: www.cptug.org

13 comments:

Bobblekin said...

I'll be joining. The weekday service is awful. There are a lot of stops between there and blackfriars. Despite this the service is practically full by crofton park and no one can get on by Denmark hill. In the evening as many people get on at the stops from london as get off so the train is permanently full all the way to crofton park. In fact this route is more suited to a tube/ overground/ dlr type service than as a overland stopper from Sevenoaks.

CP commuter said...

I think the sentence means, it's the only Zone 3 station on this line with disabled access.

urbansurgery said...

It is a good trek from the station building to the accessible southbound platform. If you need to get a ticket AND get a train it is far from ideal.

Brockley Kiwi said...

I've recently started using Crofton Park as an alternative to Brockley to go direct to St Pancras. In my experiences its no better worse than any other zone 2/3 mainline station into London ... travel before 8 its fine but travel between 8-9 its pretty packed but I've never managed not get on a train.

AliAfro said...

For me its not about how packed it is (although it is definitely busy at times and will get busier when the catford homes are built), the issue is the gap between trains. Off peak is only 2 trains an hour, and even peak service isn't much better. Apparently CP is one of only seven out of 149 London Zone 3 stations to receive such a poor service – and two of the other stations are on the same railway line.

More trains please.

Honor Oak Resident said...

A couple of years ago there was a bit of a campaign to bring back week time direct trains to Victoria, I was so up for this that I even helped the local Lib Dem candidate involved to leaflet the area. This is not something I would ever do but I really thought it important so helped. Nothing ever came of it though unfortunately and I think the MP involved is now on maternity leave.


It would be such a boost for the local area, Crofton Park is quite a nothing station right now in my opinion. It has a direct track to Victoria so why not use it (Boris apparently deems it not important enough to warrant the investment)

Monkeyboy said...

One problem is that there are so many bodies that need to co-operate. The train operating company, network rail, TfL, DfT. All will (with varying degrees of justification) say its someone else's issue.

AliAfro said...

I actually quite like the link to St Pancras and the stops along the way - Blackfriars is handy for the southbank, Farringdon for district,circle and H+M lines, Kings Cross St Pancras for trains to the north and france, and if you carry on to Luton you have your international connection. Plus ou'll be able to change for Crossrail at Farringdon. Victoria is obviously handy for the west end - how about alternating Victoria and St Pancras trains...

CB said...

Really??! Having been to Crofton Park with a buggy and very nearly not made it from train to platform across the giant gap, I fail to see how a wheelchair user could jump the same... step free access onto the platforms themselves doesn't mean they can congratulate themselves on good disabled access to the actual train!

BoJoMoFo said...

What's it got to do with TfL?

Monkeyboy said...

Yep, the gap is a massive issue especially where a station shares operators. Level access and no gap with different stock is not really practical. Accesable platforms is the best that can be done in those cases, and accesable isn't just about wheelchair users of course. Better but not perfect.

Monkeyboy said...

In this case possibly nothing but other similar situations they have been invoved. Brockley for example has overground, a TfL service running on a route shared by SE railways ona route into LB shared by other operators. Fragmentation has lead to responsibility being diluted, a good reason why the idea of the mayor taking responsibility for London franchises makes so much sense.

CP commuter said...

The solution is to fit Harrington Humps on each platform at the parts of the platform where there isn't a horizontal gap between the train and platform. These should be clearly marked so that wheelchair users and people who find the step difficult know where it's easiest to board the train. We also need a portable ramp on each platform (like those recently attached to the walls at Denmark Hill). It would be an extremely modest investment compared with the £100,000s+ it would cost to fit lifts at other stations on this line.

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