Oh yes, and the house prices

A group of Deptford residents is campaigning to have their homes reclassified by the Royal Mail as being in Greenwich, so they can earn a coveted SE10 postcode and profit from the Waitrose effect. A petition has been launched to move the SE10 boundary to Watergate Street, bringing it west from its current position at Deptford Creek.

The justification features some guff about postmen somehow not being able to find them because they get befuddled by the SE8 designation, before they cut to the chase:

"In addition to this, our property prices and held at artificially low levels due to this confusion."

This particular instance of postcode snobbery elicits no sympathy from BC. Firstly, anyone who's ever argued the toss over what and where Brockley actually is knows that the boundaries for postcodes, ward boundaries and taxi drivers' mental maps do not align. That's just life in the big city.

The idea that postal services can't cope with their own system sounds like a convenient myth, particularly as anyone who knows the area west of Deptford Creek would always consider it to be Deptford - the place is littered with Deptford place names and heritage.

And as for house prices, well if you bought your property any time in the last 100 years or so, you'll have got it at a discount on account of it not being considered part of Greenwich next door (although there are plenty of grotty streets with SE10 postcodes), so you've not lost out on anything. This is just opportunist gerrymandering by the petitioners.

Embrace SE8 - it is who you are.

With thanks to Melissa.

30 comments:

Robert said...

Hahaha! Well, perhaps a postcode is a state of mind, rather than a geographical fact. You know, they could always make sure that they turn left out of their house, instead of right every morning.

Alex Margolies said...

"property prices are held at artificially low levels" - not anyway that I've seen in South London recently...Profiteering scumbags.

anon said...

A picture tells a thousand words..

Tim said...

I think "profiteering scumbags" is harsh. We're all trying to do the best we can in life.

I really don't agree with the premise that a different postcode will affect values. Who buys based on a postcode? If there at all, the effect is very marginal.

Brockley Nick said...

It's marginal, but there is certainly a postcode effect. Whether SE10 is an especially desirable postcode is an interesting question. It's got the Maritime museum bit and Royal Hill, etc, but most of the poshest residential stuff is good old SE3. SE10 is also the postcode of road pollution and some of the poorest estates in London.

Alex Margolies said...

Some people do buy based on a postcode, and these residents will have bought their property on prices based on it being SE8, now they want it to be classed as SE10 to avoid the prices being "held at artificially low levels" - certainly sounds like profiteering to me...

Rose Bud said...

You sound slightly bitter Nick - does this mean your new places is in SE6?

Brockley Nick said...

Why would I be bitter? It's just a risible petition. And no, my home is in SE4 - the most desirable of all London postcodes.

Max Calò said...

Is this the first Katie Hopkins Fan Club? Another claim for Deptford.

Pepe said...

SE8 = Lewisham Council ; SE10 = Greenwich Council

If I could distance myself from Lewisham Borough Council I would...

Brockley Nick said...

Evidently, SE8 is both Lewisham and Greenwich Council. And you might want to look into Greenwich Council's behaviour before leaping into their loving embrace.

Rose Bud said...

I always think Greenwich is disappointing, especially now the second-hand market has closed down. Love the park though.

max doom! said...

gutted for them - two postcodes i cant afford. and im ace.

Brockley Nick said...

Greenwich town centre has been a bit rubbish for as long as I can remember. But lots of nice stuff by the river and around the park and the heath.

Clare said...

Indeed... :)

AliAfro said...

Some people are Lewisham - get over it.

AliAfro said...

And its no use switching to Greenwich.. Conways do their roads as well...

shipwrightspalace said...

and once upon a long time ago.......Greenwich was in the manor of Lewisham. There's something some would find hard to swallow!

shipwrightspalace said...

"The MANOR of Lewisham was given, with its appendages of Greenwich and Combe, by Elthruda, king Alfred's niece, as has been already mentioned, to the abbey of St. Peter at Ghent, to which Lewisham then became a cell, or alien priory; which grant is said to have been confirmed by king Edgar, in 964, and by Edward the Confessor in 1044, with the addition of many privileges."

Greenwich, a mere appendage of Lewisham!

louis said...

Well I hope there'll be no appendage beating on here

JPM said...

'ROYAL' Borough of Lewisham anyone?

Languishing in Ladywell said...

You clearly haven't been reading about the ongoing corruption in Greenwich Council over recent years - give me Lewisham any day!

Jane said...

On first hearing this, I thought it was a spoof of some kind. How could anyone be so openly snobbish, sad and ridiculous all at once. But no, they mean it.
Deptford's great, even back in the 80's when it was at a really low ebb due to loads of unemployment and lack of investment, my ex lived on the Edward St Estate (willow House). Had loads of friends on the Pepys.. wonderful community. Great market. Dewdrop Inn, one of the best pubs ever. And those terrific free festivals on Fordham Park in the summer. Times change and a lot of that's gone, but still a great community, vibrant arts scene, so diverse. And they would rather be in boring old Greenwich. Well, I for one would be glad to see them go. People like that just lower the tone, don't you know.

George said...

So Brockley used to be Deptford or Kent but hey a 3 bed for £650,000 in crofton park. That's not bad hey so I'm off to the South of France tada.........

Danja said...

Which side of the transaction are the profiteering scumbags? Buyers or sellers? Or is the buyer's incoming mortgagors?

The ones who are most like profiteering scumbags to my mind (the third) ironically have the least choice as to when the other two do anything or at what price ( in respect of which they rely on a fourth more or less innocent candidate for profiteering scumbag - the surveyor).

Willy Boner said...

Spot on ! Damn property speculators... its a Fing house, a place to live, not an fing investment...

Pepe said...

Streets are clean, reduced fly tipping, no pot holes, developments are delivered, renovation is undergoing, higher job creation etc etc etc, last time I saw the performance indicators Lewisham was right at the bottom. Blame it on the to the tropical weather...

EdC said...

I'd stick with SE8. Bit of a longer hike to the SE10 delivery office in Charlton every time I wanted to pick up a parcel, rather than to the SE8 one on the other side of Creek Road...

RB said...

Quite right, Nick. It reminds me of the same people who move next door to a pub/club/shopping street, then complain about the noise from the pub/club/shopping street that they experience from their house that they bought or rented at a discount.

RB said...

There's nothing artificially low about buying a house within the M25, in my experience.

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