The Crofton Park and Honor Oak Neighbourhood Forum

BCer Robert points out that Crofton Park ward is also trying to launch a Neighbourhood Forum. As the application for the Crofton Park and Honor Oak Neighbourhood Forum states, it will copy the ward boundaries.

Lewisham Council is now consulting the community about the idea. Like Civilisation, the first player to plant their flag on this area gets sole claim on the territory, with no other group entitled to create a Neighbourhood Plan.

There's not a lot in the application to react to. It's all sensible stuff and the stated aims are the usual communal platitudes: "to promote the social, economic and environmental well-being of the area... to work with members of the local community in assessing the priority of needs, and to work together to address these needs... to encourage the goodwill and involvement of the wider community, etc and so on."

Still, if you're interested in getting involved, there are details here.

16 comments:

Hazel Johnstone said...

Yes, got leaflet through door, read it, thought okay, but have nothing to add or comment about...

Anonymous said...

Should Brockley be getting in the act on this? Or is the work of the various existing groups already covering things? OR is this just a way of getting local people doing the work that the paid council officers should be doing?

local n vocal said...

Agreed, would have been better if they had set out three practical priorities for the area, like:
* lobby for increase to frequency of service at CP rail station;
* plans to promote attract business into unused retail spaces;
* Plans to prevent flytipping.
sounds a bit of an arbitrary thinkpiece for a landgrab otherwise.

Re area, being at the CP end of the proposed borders, I'd prefer if it stretched out to 'mid-town' parade of shops too- I visit those stores on a regular basis but have never been to the far end of honor oak in over four years of living here. Why is the proposed area defined by electoral wards, surely highstreet is a more appropriate measure given the aims of the neighbourhood forum? Perhaps for local funding purposes?

Brockley Nick said...

"Why is the proposed area defined by electoral wards"
I think because the people behind this proposal are actively involved in the Crofton Park Ward Assembly.

local n vocal said...

Fine (ish).
I do think its great that CP enhances its own sense of identity. In my view its overshadowed to some extent by being part of Brockley- in the sense that absolutely no one outside Lewisham knows where it is and some people seem to have an inferiority complex when other locals suggest its not proper Brockley. I think the areas awesome on its own and welcome the focus.
However, again this feels like a landgrab. I wonder if this will be a catalyst for a wider plan to redefine Lewishams borders. That wouldn't bother me on its own but, if so, I'd rather people were more up front about it. Why else include Honour Oak but not the mid town bit, which is much closer to Crofton Park?

OffDutyBill said...

Seems like a fine enough idea to me having just read the online version, not much to go on in terms of specifics. I imagine the last sentence is missing a 'not' when it says members' contact details will be published! :-)

CP said...

The version that came through the door included bits about the forum having a say over the type of extensions people are allowed. Not sure about this bit - who exactly gets to decide on my extension? - we already have council authority over this... especially given the rather odd definition of the area, it seems rather overbearing...

Yugobrockley said...

The separatists must be crushed.

Brockley Nick said...

Blimey, this is like Scottish independence in miniature. No I don't think it's a plan to redefine any borders - not least, all they are doing is copying the existing borders. "Brockley" ward covers a large chunk of Deptford. It's all a bit odd, but ultimately, doesn't matter.


And I'm not sure why CP needs to assert its own identity. It already has its own station, its own festival, its own clearly-defined high street. And if people haven't heard of it, but they've heard of Brockley and think CP is part of Brockley (which it is) then what's the problem?

local n vocal said...

LOL- I enjoyed that! thanks...
I'm no seperatist. I guess I am supporting a greater devolution of powers, which is what we seem to be getting. Would also be good if upper brockleyites don't get to vote on CP issues, although I will want to retain a say on the wider area.
Now need to work on a Barnett formula for disproportionate funding to the CP ward.

Bluesman said...

That is all very well if you are talking about CP. The proposal divides HOP in 2! This absolutely plans on redefining boundaries - no other body would be able to represent HOP if this is accepted.

Hilary Satchwell said...

The application for the Honor Oak Park and Crofton Park Neighbourhood plan boundary and neighbourhood forum are both on the Lewisham Website with a deadline for responses of the 20th March. The Council need to decide if the boundary is right and reasonable and separately if the forum constitution is right.

https://www.lewisham.gov.uk/myservices/planning/policy/LDF/Neighbourhood-plans/Pages/Neighbourhood-planning-applications.aspx

There is also a discussion thread on SE23.com about the benefits and disbenefits of this that makes interesting reading and also leads to some useful background reading about Neighbourhood Planning.

http://www.se23.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9448&pid=61217#pid61217

Hilary Satchwell said...

One of the reasons you might be interested is that only those in the plan boundary would be able to vote on the referrendum that would decide if any resulting Crofton Park and Honor Oak Neighbourhood Plan should be adopted.

Hilary Satchwell said...

There is a consultation on this on the Lewisham website at the moment which runs until the 20th March. This is for the forum application and separately the Neighbourhood plan boundary.

https://www.lewisham.gov.uk/myservices/planning/policy/LDF/Neighbourhood-plans/Pages/Neighbourhood-planning-applications.aspx

There is also a discussion thread on this (from the other side of the Ward, i.e. Honor Oak) on SE23.com

This includes links to useful background information on what a Neighbourhood plan is and what it could do.

http://www.se23.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9448&pid=61217#pid61217

Hilary Satchwell said...

Not sure why but I don't seem to be able to post a link to the consultation on this on the Lewisham website. The consultation on the Neighbourhood Plan boundary and the separate forum application closes on the 20th March.

If you search "lewisham crofton park and honor oak neighnbourhood plan" you will find it.

Brockley Grover said...

I see that the Crofton Park and Honor Oak Park Neighbourhood Forum got the green light from the Mayor of Lewisham on Wednesday evening - the first neighbourhood forum in the Borough.

https://www.lewisham.gov.uk/news/Pages/Borough’s-first-neighbourhood-forum-established-in-Crofton-Park-and-Honor-Oak-Park.aspx

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