Pub n Play at Jam Circus

Sally writes:

Pub n Play is a new soft play session taking place at Jam Circus, launching on Thursday 3rd April, 12-5pm. We create a soft play room for 0-4 year olds, weekday lunchtimes and afternoons, so that parents can meet their friends and other parents, enjoy the food and let their kids burn off some energy afterwards in the play room!

It's almost impossible to take a toddler anywhere where there isn't something for them to climb on, it really reduces your number of options for places to go! 'Pub n Play' is a great way to allow mums and dads with young children one of the little treats they used to enjoy.

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33 comments:

terrencetrentderby said...

The Lord have mercy

mr laptop said...

`Sounds like a fine idea for optimizing the social use of one of the larger business premises. It might take the pressure off the local cafes which are not geared up as kiddies playgrounds. I am sure the local parents will have a fine time comparing parenting skills and observing their offspring bounce off walls and each other.


I shall take my laptop elsewhere during the day and reserve my visits for beer in the evening. Now, if only there were a place that catered for laptop users with decent wifi and enough power points…..

luke said...

not saying I agree with this idea but mr laptop maybe you could work from home or the library if you are after wifi or a plug socket

Andrea said...

Does this mean that children will not be allowed in the pub in the evening? If so, I might return to the pub one evening.

Sarah said...

At last, we (all local parents!) have been waiting for something like this. thank you Jam Circus! It's about time more businesses recognised the value of the baby pound. Fear not laptop users and evening beer drinkers we are lucky to have lots of lovely places locally to go to work and indulge, please don't begrudge us parents a little social time with occupied kids!

mr laptop said...

Clearly you have not set foot in a library for a while.

Lewisham Libraries (those few the remain) are more geared up for prams and toddlers than anyone studying or working. I guess it is cheaper that way.

Rim said...

There is definitely a shortage of child friendly cafes in the area and far too many bars for adults to hang around in!

Monkeyboy said...

i popped into Deptford library just after i opened, free wifi https://www.lewisham.gov.uk/myservices/libraries/branches/Pages/the-library-at-deptford-lounge.aspx

Rim said...

I've been in a couple of time, nice building but not too much study space. I struggled to get a seat (near the front) which ended up being too noisy to work. It's great to take kids in etc but not great if you have a long boring assignment to write!

Oh yeah! said...

It does not seem that way to me.

The area is full of cafes and there are not so many pubs and bars.

Simply Lorna said...

"There is a shortage of child friendly cafes in the area"?! You're talking about Brockley, right? Jam Circus = kids, The Orchard = kids, all cafes = kids. Kids, Kids, babies, kids. The place is overrun! And yes, to remind, I have 5 (all at varying ages of growing up now) of my own which is EXACTLY why I crave for a place to go where there aren't children. Used to be called "the pub" but there is no escape. Thanks for the warning. I'll add Jam Circus to the "no adults" zone :-(

Ruth said...

The main Lewisham library has three floors where you can take your laptop. While the ground and first floors aren't particulary quiet, you should find it a bit more peaceful on the second floor. It can get busy, but still quiet.

Ruth said...

If all the pubs were full of people happily avoiding children and drinking/eating in the day then they wouldn't need to look at alternative way such as this to get people through the door. The fact is lots of people work during the day and, much as they would like, don't get to spend it in the pub. Pubs are closing all over the place, it's probably wise to be looking at ways of enticing different groups.

Guest said...

Agree here the local hostelries are given to family space and is a concern that adult drink spaces don't survive without famillies and food. I have a problem calling jam circus a pub it's a bar or at best a gastro pub in a similar vein to to the orchard.
And am saddened to hear that the wickham arms is to go in the same direction coffee machines and homework clubs,well all the best to them.

Dekanube said...

I think this is a super idea, and I can't wait to go.

It's sad that some drinkers feel threatened by a limited date tour of soft play, clearly the pub owners feel there is a desire and I assume accepted this opportunity on the basis that the only people occupying seats at this time of day were the free loaders nursing the cheapest longest drink available in exchange for free wifi.

Perhaps the proper drinkers should try Chandos, not far away and definitely not the kind of place anyone would take their children, I can only assume this is the type of pure adult environment lorna and laptopfreebieman have in mind.

brockleyfan said...

All you people whining about kids - they are going to be contained in one room!!! Surely this is better than crawling / running / bumbling all over the place?

CB said...

This is great, will definitely come!

CB said...

Disagree actually, think this opens it up more to children doing morning nursery...

SamB_UK said...

Seconding that! The top floor of Lewisham library is brilliant for working, it's almost always completely silent! It's like being back at university.

TroubleAhead said...

Nothing wrong with the kids, it is the obsessive parents that need a special room of their own. Put a lot of wine-charged egos in the same place observing the competitive antics of their offspring and there will surely be trouble.

Simply Lorna said...

Just because I enjoy a drink, doesn't mean I don't want to be in a place like Chandos thanks. It's right up there with the Brockley Barge.
I don't feel "threatened", I just want to be able to go to a pub/brasserie/cafe/restaurant etc etc without having to deal with prams, toddlers, children - even in a special area. I value my family, we eat out together but whether anyone apart from me will admit it, there has been a complete proliferation of mums and kids taking over the eateries and drinking establishments. If I were to open a cafe and say it was exclusively over 18's there would be uproar - I just want to have a choice. Right now, I don't have that except for going to a very unpleasant pub.

Rim said...

I was of course being sarcastic. Aren't the only adults around during the day mon-fri parents, retired or unemployed/freelance anyway?

takesherkidstothepub said...

Lots of people griping, but this session happens ONCE A WEEK and is OVER BY 5PM. Seriously folks, how much kid-free drinking do you need if the remaining 6.5+ days a week isn't enough?? I suspect most of the complainers will be at work at that time anyway. Personally the idea of having a drink while my kids are contained in a room full of other people's small children, all of which are too small to be left to their own devices (harmoniously anyway), is not something that appeals. But if it does, good for you. This almost makes me want to go just to wind up Simply Lorna - "even in cafes, you can't avoid kids". I mean, can you imagine...kids out in public in the daytime... outrageous!

Mackerel Sky said...

Regardless of the rights and wrongs of Jam Circus's plan I have to say that this is the funniest thing I've read on the internet for ages! Well done Lorna :)

Pizza snob said...

I am absolutely delighted with this idea - if only because it stopping Simply Lorna getting her hard drink on on a Thursday afternoon amuses me so. I'm sure she's lovely, but I picture a raging wine-o marching around Brockley in a red-faced rage shouting at children.

Dekanube said...

If you were to open a cafe for over 18s i think that would be perfectly acceptable. people with children generally only take them to child friendly establishments.

you might find that missing out on the mum and kiddie dollars might dent your potential profit, although you would be happy so that would be good.

Simply Lorna said...

Geesh. Pathetic, judgemental & assumptive. I expect nothing less. Not wound up, although being called a "wine-o" is perhaps less insulting than being calling a Labour supporter. Good effort tho. And a clearly superb intellect. Well done you x

Lunchtime diner said...

I think Lorna has a point.

Brockley has become a breeding ground and everywhere you go you see babes in arms and toddlers and lots of inexperienced parents.

The pub is a respite from this relentless baby fest. Not least for the parents who must get royally tired of baby talk and the constant demands of young children.

The sight of babies and toddlers in pubs in the evening, tired and miserable, surrounded by adults getting merry on the weekend. That is not a wholesome mix.

If they want to bounce around for a few hours during a quiet time in the afternoon, that is fine. As I recollect, the Jam Circus used to have a lot of kids running around during the day. This did not work very well at lunchtime. Screaming babies and toddlers running around when other customers are trying to relax during a lunch break is not a good combination. It could ruin their lunchtime trade and the place has a good menu.

If they are in the back room with someone looking after them, that might work. Though it depends on the attitude of the parents. Some of whom seem to think every public space is a free childrens play area and are wont to let them run wild. Not all parents are quite so irresponsible, but there are few like that in Brockley, for sure. I am sure the local cafe owners see all kinds of parenting.

I wish them the best of luck with this.

Pizza snob said...

I'm glad you enjoyed my intellectual musings and are able to differentiate my meaningless imagination from haranguing people I've never met. Especially good that you're a clairvoyant and expect nothing less of me. Now put the claret away and you might see the future is red Ed.

Simply Lorna said...

Dearest Pizza Snob (Deep crust? Thin? Sour dough? I know a fab place in Soho) Only thing red about my future is my hair - increasingly assisted alas! And the diet precludes the over indulgence in Malbec so I'm sticking to gin & slimline, mothers ruin ironically & the reason why my clairvoyant skills are a bit gippy. In the words of Madonna..... true blue!

Pub n Play said...

I don't want to refuel the debate, but just to say: It's true that Brockley is 'overrun' with children, and it is important to cater for the local audience by making as many venues as possible family friendly. There are still at least two pubs closing every day in the UK and it is good that Jam Circus is agile enough to spot a market opening. Rose (the manager at Jam Circus) has considered her market very carefully and genuinely recognises that many people come to the pub to escape children! For this reason the soft-play area will be removed during evenings and weekends! Parents will be asked to be responsible for their children at all times and we will be constantly monitoring to see what is working and what needs to change. It would be great to run the sessions before lunch but unless there were so many families visiting it made it financially viable for Jam Circus to open a breakfast club we will have stick with lunches/afternoons! :)

I'll be there said...

Sorry, but who are you to judge that they are inexperienced? A bit of a judgemental and sweeping statement.

As someone else has said this is 7 hours, one day a week. Plenty of other child free time for those of you sans kids (of want child free time) to have. drink, many of whom will not be around at that time anyway.

Cynthia said...

I get what you mean but you do still have a choice - most places are kid free in the evening so that's is a choice. And a lot of places have certain days that target mum & baby groups - so you could go on days or times that don't. I think it's hard to find a balance between the two. Stay at home mums probably think that there aren't enough options (children centres are closing up due to funding issues all the time). And freelancers think there aren't enough options for them with more and more kiddy activities being targeted.

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