The prattle of Algiers

As if the question of whether to embrace a CPZ extension wasn't vexing enough for the people of Algiers Road, now they have to decide how they feel about taller than usual faux-antique lamp posts. Tell us how you feel?

26 comments:

Headhunter said...

Why did Algiers Rd get "faux antique lamp posts" but the rest of us have to have modern style ones?

torchy said...

Dreadful, a committee idea of what 'traditional' should look like.
Although I haven't seen these in action one of the most common complaints about the lamposts that Skanska have been scattering about the borough is that it lights up peoples bedrooms (all night), even though the light is directed at the road there is 'collateral' lighting - presumably these lamps have less horizontal directionability.
I know that the good burghers of Fossil Road (and another road in Lee (maybe more)) were petitioning to keep their present lampposts - so perhaps this is what the Swedish company will think passes as 'traditional' in the UK - presumably their investigations didn't go far beyond the lid of a tin of Quality Street . . .

Royshirttugger said...

I really don't understand why they did not take the old ones down at the same time.

Anon said...

Is Algiers Road in a conservation area, that was the reason given in another part of the borough.

Nionios said...

I think 'faux antique' ones like these have also been installed in Tyrrwhit Rd. (or is it me who just noticed them?) along with flower baskets that make the place look even better.

Damian said...

Think they look much better than your standard lamp post. They're definitely better than when councils try to go for a more unique/contemporary design (like the apparently tad pole themed ones around Bellenden Rd for instance).
Brockley Rd would be much more pleasant with something similar, street furniture in general along the high st is pretty dour

Hillyfieldsgirl said...

Yes it seems pretty arbitrary, particular when the top of Algiers road, the part that actually feels more like Veda road, is all 1920's houses. Veda Road has only qualified for the new modern skinny black ones.

Algernonian said...

If conservation areas get the 'traditional' lampposts, and the rest get the modern ones, what on earth is going to happen on Algernon, where only half the street, and only certain houses, qualify as conservation area!?

skansking said...

I think you may have answered your own question . . .

Pete Thornton said...

It's part of a conservation area.

NAT said...

Yes, but unfortunately the baskets were hung on the lamps being replaced.

headhunter said...

So is manor avenue but we got modern jobs... To be honest I'm not sure I'm a fan of the faux Victorian ones anyway... I quite like the new ones on manor, certainly an improvement on the old 1970s dual carriageway style ones and much less light leakage into our front bedrooms than before

headhunter said...

Most of the brockley conservation area has modern ones...

PeterPosts said...

They have these lampposts (or at least one) on Tyrwhitt Road.

Vicar's Knickers said...

That would be too efficient and cost less.

Lampoon said...

Worryingly high if that is a gas lamp.

Malcolm said...

They are turning our conservation area in to a gaslamp-fantasy theme park.

They are doing it without consultation or prior warning. They are causing dissatisfaction and divisions between neighbours that have and neighbours that have not, those that want and those that do not want.

The biggest problem however is with the, so called, ‘heritage’ lighting units themselves. They are kitsch, historically inept caricatures worthy of The Beano. No better than what can be had from any garden centre.

There is no precedent for them in our conservation areas. They are fakes and have no intrinsic historic, aesthetic or material quality. If they survive for 150 years they still will be fakes and they still will not have any quality worthy of conserving.

By introducing these travesties into the conservation areas the council is effectively tearing up the conservation handbook and operating instead on misguided and absurd notions of romanticism and dodgy historic re-creation. Opening the flood gates for who-knows-what in the future.


I am insulted and depressed that we have a council that can and does behave in this way.

agreeable sort of chap said...

malcolm, you are correct in every way - I raise my hat to you!

JosephJohnODonnell said...

Lucky you the have put on which shines directly into my window. It makes my life hell even with my new blackout curtains.

light said...

I noticed a new lamppost (modern style, not retro) on the lower end of Veda Road this morning that had a little panel attached to it just below the light - as if to stop the light invading the windows of the house - you could have a look and investigate the possibility of a similar cure for your problem Joseph.

JosephJohnODonnell said...

I have tried that after many months they sent someone round and they are now saying that the measurements of light aren't high enough. Have emailed councillors today next step is a nuisance claim as entirely unreasonable not to put one of those on. Perhaps I will go and speak to the house opposite that light and ask what they did to get it!

Light said...

I wish you success Joseph - light is second on the left up from vicars hill end of Veda

Ez said...

Pastiche Victorian lamps have now appeared in Tressillian Road, though surrounding streets in the CA have modern style. They have an odd aesthetic since the lamp unit is deeply recessed into the top (rightly) to avoid light pollution, leaving the main assembly empty.

new lamps for old said...

The ersatz Victorian style lamps are an improvement.

Anything is better that than those awful 1970s sodium yellow lights. Lewisham councils default mode is functional with scant regard for aesthetics. It is not difficult to spot the council owned properties in the area.

Ez said...

No, they are not. Not only do they look silly, but they leak an enormous amount of light sideways into our bedroom, unlike the modern design. Going to complain . . .

Monkeyboy said...

how do you know if youve not spotted one?

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