Leegate 2

Tomorrow, the company redeveloping Leegate Shopping Centre, St Modwen, is holding another public consultation, to discuss their latest plans (left).

This scheme is significantly better than their first effort, but they're still determined to crowbar a cleverly-disguised  ASDA on to the site, despite the fact there are several large supermarkets within a stone's throw, including a Sainsbury's next door.

They also want to build 230 homes and a new courtyard garden. Good use of trees, but this is still a pretty uninspiring effort, that is heavily reliant on car traffic to make it work.

We don't see why any significant retail is required, with Lewisham just down the road and Blackheath Village is up the hill. Just make an inspiring residential development.

10 comments:

Jim S said...

I don't know Lee too well but having passed through a number of times it already looks a sizable shopping district. With 230 new homes here alone, and many more at Ferrier nearby, is having more shopping options within walking distance a bad thing. The wide pavements and active frontages look to increase the vitality of the streets alongside too. Having this here is better than lugging over to Lewisham which is already seeing massive population expansion to cater for its shops, which wont suffer.

It's good to see we've moved on from what would've happened 10 years ago - a large retail barn and large tarmac car parking expanse on this site.

Andy said...

It's certainly a lot better than the initial lazy proposal - probably the most disgraceful attempt at calling something "regeneration" I've ever seen.

The quality of the buildings going by the plans is of a good standard, and there's a gym provided for which would be a useful addition.

The biggest problem is still that a large supermarket is not only not required by the community - given the Sainsbury's across the road - but would probably be actively detrimental by increasing traffic and pollution to a junction already suffering from both. With the number of houses being proposed now somewhere around 230, the question is whether the large anchor tenant is actually a requirement at all anymore - that size of residential development would surely provide enough footfall, when combined with the current residents, for a series of smaller shops to thrive?

Also no attempt to address the loss of public space that will occur with building over the current square - nearly all the allocated "public" space in the current proposal doesn't even belong to St Modwen anyway. The promenade-style frontage on Burnt Ash Road is actually a nice enough addition, but I'm not sure it's enough to fully compensate for the loss of at least half of the current public space in the new proposal.

Primeval Mudd said...

If the ASDA gets built there's a good chance Sainsbury's will shut up shop, move elsewhere, sell the land for a nice profit and Lewisham will end up with yet another development of overpriced investment flats where it stood.

Karen said...

would have thought a cinema would be a better idea than asda.

Andy said...

It seems like a no-brainer to me to include provision for a cinema in a residential development of that size, in one of the only boroughs in London that doesn't have a cinema, when you're trying to convince people that you're actually trying to make the development something that locals might want. But it seems not....

anon said...

I'm honestly not sure that would be such a bad thing. The 1980s-style (lack of) thinking in how they used the site - with long stretches of brick wall fronting the streets rather than any shop frontages, including the idiocy of having the car park facing Burnt Ash Road rather than the front of the store - means having a do-over on what is a prime site may not be the worst outcome.

Tamsin said...

I suppose a 106 agreement that would enable the council to buy and renovate with care the lovely New Tiger's Head is pie in the sky...

Anon said...

That would be nice. It's horrible seeing a lovely old building like that left to rot - I'd hoped Antic may have taken it on and saved it given they've done similar elsewhere, but it's never happened.



All that being said, I guess the prospect of 250 houses across the road will probably see it being opened up again by somebody

Mark said...

I think its obvious; Asda are signed up as a tenant (or owner) so enables the scheme to proceed. Yes a cinema would be nice. I am sure if an operator expressed interest the developers would have jumped at the opportunity if it pulled in as much money.

terrencetrentderby said...

Where are SPAG when you need them? I hear they're all fighing for ISIS.

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