Hobgob robbed of sobriquet by refurb job

Steve Rogers: The uniform? Aren't the stars and stripes a little... old-fashioned?
Agent Coulson: With everything that's happening, the things that are about to come to light, people might just need a little old-fashioned.
- The Avengers

The Hobgoblin pub in New Cross is currently undergoing a major refurbishment, which appears to be nearing completion.

Transpontine reports that its name will change back to The Rose Inn, which is a shame, because even though the name's a bit retro, Dungeons & Dragons will never go out of fashion. Never, you hear!

8 comments:

MaryEllen said...

Wasn't it called the Red Rose before?

Tamsin said...

Certainly Roses came into it - and the side wall still bore the old name for a good while.

Crofty said...

Rats. I liked getting a glimpse of that name as it loomed over the train tracks. Nice bit of madness.

Matt-Z said...

It was always the Rose Inn till about '97 when the landlady, Bonnie, finally sold up to the Wychwood brewery (who made Hobgoblin beer and named a load of pubs after it). At that stage it was in a terrible state of repair with holes in the roof, the top floor inhabited by pigeons, and the bar largely empty aside from a decrepit darts team.

Significant investment and a major refurb later it became THE student pub in New Cross in the late 90s, with six-deep crowds to get to the bar on a Friday or Saturday night. The brief period at the top didn't last - Wychwood's fortunes suffered when the owner died, resulting in the pub estate being sold off, and the New Cross branch ending up in the hands of various dodgy outfits, including the amusingly-named Balaclava group (who couldn't run a bath let alone a pub), and went bust in the early 2000s. To be honest it's been going downhill for years. Until the recent closure it was the one pub in New Cross you could get into if you were barred from all the others, requiring bouncers on most evenings and seeing regular visits from the police.

Going back to the old name is no bad thing. Bonnie was the widow of former landlord Harry, under whose ownership the Rose Inn thrived and was well known. In recent years the garden has resembled a shanty town but in its '70s heyday there was a boxing ring surrounded by covered stalls in the back, which attracted crowds and faces from across London. Apparently when Harry died New Cross Road was brought to a standstill by the volume of traffic caused by mourners parking outside for the funeral and raucous wake.

Nostalgia aside, a decent refit was long overdue, I'm looking forward to trying it out soon. Also I'm thankful it hasn't gone the way of the Walpole or another ex-Hobgoblin, the Rose of Lee/Sports Bar/Dirty South in Lewisham, which has been closed for some time with no sign of activity.

Headhunter said...

Interesting history! I'm glad it's returning to its historic name. I didn't realise the Dirty South had shut down... I haven't been out that way for ages but I remember seeing bands there when I lived in Catford about 15 years ago and I even spent a new years eve there - perhaps 2001 or 2002...

BarneyBear said...

" In recent years the garden has resembled a shanty town but in its '70s heyday there was a boxing ring surrounded by covered stalls in the back, which attracted crowds and faces from across London."
Good to know that Shia Labeouf will still be welcome, then......

max doom! said...

think i did my first necking with the mrs at the hobgoblin. didnt get any 'tops' though.

Tyrwhitt Michael said...

No one knows the Dirty South is shut; you can't get there from Brockley because of the rebuilding of Lewisham Town Centre!

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