When we said fine, we meant worse than ever

Southern has confirmed that the reduced peak time evening service from London Bridge to Brockley and beyond will continue for the next four weeks - and let's face it, probably the next year.

35 comments:

Monkeyboy said...

its just relentless good news at the moment.

max doom! said...

sake. the east london line 8.28am from south norwood was off this mornng so they told people to get on the southern then switch at sydenham. only when it got to penge he said there was a problem so it was going fast to new cross gate, which is my stop (he didnt mention it was my stop). everyone was moaning but not me, not today. i won that one

anon said...

It's so they can offer an "improved" service.

Brockley Nick said...

I think you are forgetting about the "Victoria to Dartford train which stops at Nunhead and Lewisham (and lines up nicely for the Crofton Park train home), twice an hour." Aren't you?

Mr Wickham said...

This morning, given the problems that were reported, I didn't even try to go to Brockley and walked to St Johns instead. Amazingly, when the train reached London Bridge it pulled straight in. No wait. I don't know if I just got lucky or the through trains aren't affected by the congestion, but I might be taking that route more regularly from now on, particularly since I go on to Cannon Street anyway.

Monkeyboy said...

I'm having to watch telly in full body armour at the moment so not best pleased.

Robbie said...

Hey it's something! Jeez, a guy tries to accentuate the positive, this is the thanks he gets!

OffDutyBill said...

I had a similar experience on Weds or Thurs morning when the 0733 Southern train to London Bridge decided to terminate at New Cross Gate for the laugh. Walked to New Cross and got a plain sailing, albeit sardine-level Southeastern train to Cannon Street via London Bridge. Seems like the operators have decide to swap who's the most crap for 2015 :-/

Brockley Nick said...

You are quite right to do so

Woman of Brockley said...

I've given up on the trains. I get the 21 to London Bridge. Starts at Lewisham shopping centre, goes along Lewisham Way and up the Old Kent Road. Not really very much slower given that the service is more frequent than the trains. Oh wait, though - there are going to be roadworks by the roundabout soon. Bugger.

Martin said...

My journey to and from work has got much worse. I regularly have to skip some trains and in the morning I started taking the Southern trains to LB because it's still possible to board them unlike the Overground.

Joe Sheeran said...

It's a half hour back street bike ride from Brockley to London Bridge / the City. It's rubbish when it rains, but overall more enjoyable than the packed trains (and free)

Anon said...

Hi Joe, what's the best route (keeping off main roads)?

MushyPeas said...

I'd love for the peak time evening service to come back to full capacity, but it's really not so bad, is it? I work near London Bridge. I take a slightly earlier train in the morning to anticipate delays outside the station. In the evening there is the LB-to-Victoria service twice an hour, or I get on the first train stopping at NXG and change for the Overground / Southern train. There's also a Southeastern service to St Johns etc. Yes it's busier, but they are trying to upgrade a mahoosive, outdated station while keeping as much running as possible.


And no, I don't work for Southern (thankfully).

Lep Recorn said...

Hi Anon - I can bike buddy you along the route sometime tomorrow afternoon (assuming I am feeling better than I am at the moment!!)

terrencetrentderby said...

It's people like you that let the nazis get to power.

AleatoryCertainty said...

The important question though is what will it do to the house prices?

Fed Up said...

Great. Going to have to take the train from Crofton Park perhaps. Does anyone still manage to get on the Overground in the mornings?

Headhunter said...

That's no fun... Grit your teeth, don the bright lycra and plough along OKR racing the other commuters. Back streets are for losers....

Headhunter said...

Won't somebody think of our house prices?

terrencetrentderby said...

I have little faith in the Nigerian driving licensing system and don't fancy being run over by a pastor's wife driving a BMW X3.

Crofty said...

They're constantly announcing mid-trip that the service won't stop at scheduled stations, too. Late last night it happened again: suddenly at NXG the driver said the train was now running non-stop to Sydenham. I've often got turfed off at Crystal Palace on Victoria-London Bridge service too when the train switches to an express service. Never happened to me before about the last six weeks. Just too unreliable to use these days - I'm switching to the 343 bus.

Headhunter said...

Yes you're probably right there. I've seen people who clearly have absolutely zero understanding of the UK road system driving here in London. I once did work experience at an accountancy firm when I was at school and was sent out with a woman who was scary as hell to be in a car with. She would stall at every junction, pull out in front of people etc etc. Later she told me that she'd been raised in Kenya and her dad had simply bought her a driving licence and she'd kind of worked out the driving bit for herself. At that time the UK had an exchange licence system and anyone with a Kenyan licence could swap it for a UK one (not sure if that's still the case)....

max doom! said...

through the hospital, leathermarket street, bermondsey street, grange road, spar road, under the arches, then keep heading down and right until you get to the bottom bit of southwark park, out the bottom and head to the den. along surrey canal road, right on to mercury way, bear left at the school to kenny brocklehurst street and thats new cross gate sainsburys. from there i dare you to go up the massive hill or you could go round by goldsmiths and on to st donnatts.

terrencetrentderby said...

International licences are good for a year which is quite shocking considering a Kenyan who bought his licence could be on the road here, for a whole year.



The AA reckons 2.5% of drivers on the road have no licence at all, this percentage is probably much higher in London.

Headhunter said...

It's not just Kenyans, I had a friend from Ireland who said that a large percentage of people there drive on provisional licences and every now and then there's a moratorium and gives everyone who has had a prov licence for a certain number of years a full one.


This very same friend of mine had an Irish provisional licence but got a job in Antwerp. His new employer gave him a company car as part of the deal, even though he didn't even have a full licence!


After a while he decided he should try to get a proper, full licence so he DROVE the company car from Antwerp, across the UK, across Ireland down to Cork to take his test - which he failed - and then drove the car all the way back to Antwerp and carried on as before!


Eventually he passed his test in the US (Massachusetts) where the test was far, far, far easier than in Europe (he later told me) - he just had to get in the car, drive straight up the road, park (with a policeman in the car) and that was about it. They gave him a US driving licence!

terrencetrentderby said...

Given how tough driving testing is in the UK you would think licences from mediocre testing regimes would not be accepted, at least not for a whole year.

Emmajem said...

I've given up on both Brockley and St Johns now. Unfortunately I have to trek all the way to Paddington everyday and this journey has proven a disaster since coming back to work in early January. I now am forking out for zone 3 travel to come in from Ladywell...more expense but the commute in has been remarkably stress-free, straight through to Charing X and Bakerloo up from there. 20min brisk walk each morning to get to the station, but i guess that's helping the New Year health resolution!

Danja said...

pastor's wife driving a BMW X3
That's modest - the pastor a few doors up from me has just got himself a nice 14 plate Maserati Quattroporte. I guess the tithes are good this year.

terrencetrentderby said...

The driveways fronting the various "holy ghost" style churches down the OKR are showcases to the Italian and German high-end car industries.

Lep Recorn said...

nahhh - too busy:

Try through the hospital, Crosby Row then Pilgrimage street, through Trinity Square then down Bath terrace, left Rockingham & right Medow then cross the New kent Road at the bike/pedestrian crossing.

Follow the bike path on the south side of the New Kent Road, right into Rodney/Flint/Thurlow and cut through Burgess park. Cross Trafalgar Avenue at Neate Sreet the follow the canal path all the way to Peckham Library.

Cross Peckham Road at the bike/pedestrian crossing then up Rye Lane pedestrinaised area (you are allowed to). Rye Lane, left into Bournemouth Rd, right Copeland, left along Bryards, cross Consort then the bike path against the one way part of Bryards. Right Kirkwood, left into Kimberly then cross Evelina. Left at the top of Kimberly then right at Nunhead Station into Oakdake. Follow St Asaph & you are at Brockley Station.

Sounds more complicated than it is, but it is all on quiet roads.

Anon said...

Have tried plotting this route on google maps for anyone interested:

http://tinyurl.com/qdyf6av

Anon said...

To see it you have to go to http://tinyurl.com/ qdyf6av



leave out the space after the slash

Lep Recorn said...

the only part which looks wrong is between peckham library and burgess park - if you look on google maps for 'surrey canal path' between these points this is 100% traffic free (apart from other bikes:-) I would be willing to ride this with you, there and back, on sat afternoon . . .

NAT said...

It's people like you that would have campaigned for them if they had 'trains running on time' in their manifesto.

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