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I would say a step in the wrong direction unfortunately.
I agree with you. Don't think Brockley needs a Italian take-away
What is the right direction?
if they can compete quality/price wise to the likes of Franco Manca or Pizza pilgrims then brillant! hopefully not wishful thinking!
I wonder if there will be a fleet of mad mopeds revved up and raring to go. If it is half decent, a pizza takeaway will get plenty of business. All those boxy commuter flats going up around Brockley station will no doubt house many potential customers.I guess it is a gap in the market since the Italian restaurant next door does not do takeaway pizza and the nearest competitor is a Dominic franchise, way up Brockley Rd.
I've just got back from Naples and spoke to an Italian out there who seemed quite a fan of Franco Manca, said it was the best pizza available in London. It's certainly been a huge success, from humble beginnings in Brixton to branches in Chiswick, Balham, Tott Court Rd etc...
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I've never had a good pizza in Italy. Probably why they are such big importers of Leyland made Dr Oetkers
Really? Have you been south to cities like Naples? Da Michele in Naples is considered something like the birthplace of pizza... Very tasty
Does anyone know why the development of 180 has stopped?
"Only" in Rome and Milan, both with large southern Italian populations though, but every time was lousy. Wasn't overly impressed with the food in general despite Italy's supposed culinary superiority. I have had much better pizza in London. The ice cream was very good though.
Just had a look at the Franco Manca menu......Oh yes, if we could have one of those in Brockley, it would do very well. Good prices as well.If Gulens could produce the same standard, that would be very nice.....We will see.
Actually Villa Toscana does do takeaway pizza, they are just not very good at advertising it for some reason
I live close to that Dominic shop - it looks and tastes like deep fried thick dough with a bit of cheese on top. I ate it once and probably never will again.
It is not on their takeaway menu.http://restaurantvillatoscana.co.uk/takeaway-menu.html
Villa Toscana two doors down does decent and cheap takeaway pizza. Seems a bit of a waste to use it just as a takeaway - it's a decent size.
You obviously don't know what you're talking about. Rome has some of the best pizza places in the world.
Obviously I do because I've been there, Pizza Express is much better than the pizza they serve there, Italians are very arrogant when it comes to their food (cooked very well in their homes) but their restaurants are mostly below par. The bread served was always nice.
It's the Italians turn today.
Only if you've been to every pizza joint in Rome... I've just been there recently and Rome, like every other city in the world, has its share of both crappy and amazing restaurants. Venture outside the tourist focused central of Rome and you can find amazing pizzas.
The salt in some of those takeaway pizzas is shocking. So I hope this new place understand what a daily recommended limit means!
Went off the beaten track but finding somewhere good was a struggle. Maybe I didn't look hard enough but surely the general standard, as it is in London, should be good...
Great stuff I love a pizza, a good take away is just what is required
I hope the close soon and Gulens finally rents it to someone who has a clue about restuarants rather than cheap quality kebabs.The location has potential but not as junk food takeaway.
A good Italian takeaway is much needed in Brockley. I wanted to like Villa Toscana, however the pizza was not to my liking. Best pizza around Brockley/New Cross is Oregano (Old Kent Road) without doubt and if it can compete with them it will do very well.
I've tried the Bella Napoli in Downham and it really is a cut above the rest when it comes to take away pizza. Also the signage is at least fairly smart. Think the usual BC moaners need to stop being so petulantly whiney.
Why would you want a local business to fail, especially when it is evident you haven't tried it yet? And what is so wrong with kebab? There are plenty of empty units in Brockley if you wish to educate us on your idea of a good restaurant.
Is this being run by the Downham Bella Napoli team (I agree make fantastic pizza) - or is this another Gulen gamble?
Food no good in Italy TTD? You must have gone to the wrong places. Admittedly, like most big cities, there are cynical restaurant owners waiting to rinse unsuspecting tourists. There are loads in London. I was in Bologna last year and ate the most incredible food. As for pizza, it's a lovely thing in the right hands. As a person who cooks for a living I'm cursed by an ability to calculate the cost of ingredients and their quality. Pizzas are ridiculously overpriced. Franco Mancas offerings are pretty damn good and reasonably priced but I've heard that they've been bought out by the big boys.
The standard of pizza in London restaurants is very good, the chains all around the tourist parts of London like Pizza Express are fairly consistent. Italy was a letdown food wise although I had a few good meals after scouring Tripadvisor and carefully planning expeditions, maybe I was expecting too much. I don't think pizzas are overpriced, yes the ingredientsare cheap but when you consider the huge non-food costs of running a restaurant (rents, rates, wages) etc it seems very reasonable.
Yes we have checked and we have it from the horse's mouth - it is the Downham team. Brilliant news for Brockley. Surprised to see so fee positive comments here tbh.
I've never met a busy Nigerian
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