Brockley Road - the new normal

Having 'normalised' Brockley Cross and Lewisham Way with persistent targeted raids and interventions, local police now have the junction of Brockley and Wickham Roads in their sights.

In recent weeks, the police have contacted local residents asking for witnesses to reported cases of anti-social behaviour and drug dealing in the area while last week, police were conducting a large scale stop and search operation in the same spot.

This kind of action eventually succeeded in reducing violent crime in Brockley Cross - which used to serve up gang-related incidents on a regular basis each summer - and the police must hope to pull off the same trick here.

24 comments:

Martin said...

I'm looking forward to seeing the change. There's that one convenience store next to the Thai restaurant that used to be quiet but a few months ago groups of teenagers on bikes started hanging around there most of the day and night.

Mark Racz said...

and what do they do exactly?

Headhunter said...

Well I suppose teenagers have to go somewhere! As long as they're not causing problems...

terrencetrentderby said...

Spit, listen to crap music on their phones, cycle on the pavements, scare pensioners like Martin and talk loudly in an unfathomable dialect? Bring back borstal.

heckmcbuff said...

The groups of teenages hanging outside the convenience stores on Brockley Road up from Wickham Road, unfortunately, are causing problems. Speak to any of the store owners, especially the one that opens to the early hours of the morning and they will tell you what has been going on.

Uncle_Sam said...

Kids hanging around are almost always up to no good, in some guise. Do you ever walk past loitering chav youths who are being polite, offer to help old ladies cross the street, tidy up stray litter or some such? No, they're hanging about looking for something to excite them because they're bored and their brains are shriveled from video games, crap TV and cheap booze/cigarettes. Oh, and legal/illegal highs.

Koopa Trooper said...

Well its not the video games: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/11224482/Fast-paced-video-games-improve-learning-ability-study-shows.html

Uncle_Sam said...

3rd paragraph, that's why they all ride bikes and love whatsapp/bbm

Mark Racz said...

they're not really obligated to be polite or help old ladies cross the street. most adults don't tidy up/help old ladies/do politeness and everybody seems ok with that. Until the kid has his hands in your pocket or his spit is on your jacket, they're just as entitled to be there as you are.

Uncle_Sam said...

I wasn't saying they're obliged to be polite etc, more that those youths loitering outside shops are most often up to trouble. You don't tend to find them having a positive influence on the public realm. Just like the adults that hang around outside shops/betting joints guzzling Super T, chaining king sizes, swearing and spitting etc.

Brockley Nick said...

We are all obligated to be polite.

heckmcbuff said...

Well, I feel relieved that, as the replies below state, the young people are just having high jinx outside the shops at night, so nothing to get concerned about.

Mezzer said...

It was so obvious what was going on there, that I can only assume the police knew about it for a while and were keeping an eye on it. The place has been closed for the last few days though....

Martin said...

They did smoke weed in the evening. But that wasn't my main concern. It really started suddenly - from a sleepy convenience store to a social club for 16-20 year olds who were hanging around there for no apparent reason. They were blocking the street and I felt intimidated by them whenever I had to walk around them on the street - even though I'm male and in my 30s. Indeed the shop was closed today and I'm quite happy about that.

Mark Racz said...

I think we are at best obliged not to be explicitly aggressive, but I suppose it's a matter of nuance and preference. I tend to be polite and even friendly even if my nature is more cynical than that. But I can't hold it against someone who's "not nice".

Dolcevita said...

I contacted the Ladywell Community Police twice and left a message on their answer phone about drug takers and drug transactions/dealers right outside my house and they never bothered to get back to me to investigate so I don't think the Police really care?!

PeoplesAssemblySEL said...

True. We agree. We've just been reviewing the interactions on this site. You have been particularly nasty and unnecessary in your comments towards us.

The Lewisham Peoples' Day thread your approach as the moderator, encouraged others to lay into us. Your replies are always treating with us suspicion, as if 'we're up to something'. All we're trying to do, it to get people to challenge the story that our community should face cut backs.

We've seen a government continually promote the idea that cuts are necessary, cuts are a choice, we want people; 'people power' to ask the government to make different choices. That is what the demos, rallies, are about. That is all.

terrencetrentderby said...

People power sounds a bit Bolshi to me. No wonder why Nick doesn't like you.

Gu Est said...

You should call Police in Lewisham, you'll get a better response

Gu Est said...

nice piece of trolling

PeoplesAssemblySEL said...

No U.

PeoplesAssemblySEL said...

"Terrence Trent Derby"?? Update yourself - Satander Maitreaya maybe? (That's about as close as we'll get to 'trolling ' on here!

Brockley Nick said...

"You have been particularly nasty and unnecessary in your comments towards us."

Challenging and critical is not the same thing as nasty and unnecessary - perhaps you could quote me, rather than make vague accusations.

"The Lewisham Peoples' Day thread your approach as the moderator, encouraged others to lay into us."

I've just had a look - and no I didn't. Again, quotes please.

"Your replies are always treating with us suspicion, as if 'we're up to something'"

No, I find you massively disingenuous and I get irritated by your Fox News-style rhetorical approach: "hey, I'm not saying it's my opinion - I'm just saying it's interesting someone else is saying it, etc"


I also know you to be a liar, who denies your links to People Before Profit and many other local groups, despite using the same IP address to post from related accounts. I don't mind you having multiple identities, but that's not cool.

Worried said...

After several quiet days, they're back this evening outside Gogi's, including two small boys that no one seems to supervise.

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